UKBillFan

The post season is out of the question if he continues to play the way he did today.

Though the following week he threw three touchdowns against the Bucs. Josh looked very shaky in the fourth quarter against the Packers and compounded it at the Jets with very similar issues. I wouldn’t swap Josh for Mahomes, as good as the latter is, but these games crop up more often for him than Mahomes in general. And I really hope I have just jinxed Mahomes for tonight.

Josh and Mahomes have similar ceilings but the latter’s floor is much higher. I thought Josh had closed the difference in terms of the floor but he hasn’t.

If it was Tua we’d be saying he’s reverting to type. If it was Mac Jones we’d be laughing our heads off. If it was Wilson we’d be stating it was no surprise. But as it’s Josh…

The oddest thing is he had appeared to get out of that - Rams, Titans, Chiefs, Ravens… take what’s given, dink and dunk, maintain possession. Then, in the fourth quarter of the Packers and today he seems to have regressed into being locked into one read and making big plays.

The issue was we seemed to have no passing plan against Garrett Wilson. So if we pushed them to pass, they’d find it too easy to execute in the back field. I do think our plans would have been different had we not been missing Milano and Poyer.

As said elsewhere, the Bucs faced the Saints at home and got turned over 38-3 in 2020. One game doesn’t make a season. The worrying thing is the trends on both sides of the ball carried over from the back end of the Packers game into this one. I have some sympathy for the defense considering who was missing; none for the offense. On defense some of it was passivity but, like against the Packers, some of it was execution. How many tackles did we miss today?

What a lovely intelligent reply. Tell me, where has anyone said we should score 50 every game?

Josh was the issue, not Bass.

But if Josh is off, as he was, then adapt. The only way we were going to win was pound and ground; don’t be too proud or egotistical to take it.

13 in reality. Not sure I really blame the defense for the touch down after the second INT.

We didn’t need to score 50. Twenty one would have been enough.

But that works both ways. If the offense dinked, dunked and burned the clock then we’re on control. It feels like we’ve abandoned that approach since the bye.

And conceded 20 points, seven of those where the offense - well, Josh - basically handed them field position on a plate.

Therefore the offense needed to do the same. What was the score at the point? 17-10? Burn the clock, dink and dunk, keep the defense off the field and getting a proper break. I think the final drive by the Jets was because the defense was gassed. We were down Hyde, Milano, Poyer, White and, for much of the second half, Rousseau. The almost fully fit offense needed to help them out.

The offense’s chances? The defense got the ball back and we promptly returned it to the Jets.

I’m more worried about what Josh is seeing and how he’s processing plays than his arm at the moment.

If I was an opposition fan, the only concern I’d have is if Josh gets his act together. Until then, bring us on.

Last week I assumed we were a bit surprised at the Packers approach and decided to let them get on with it. The biggest concern is how many tackles we’re missing.

Then surely you spend as much time on the field of play as possible to burn the clock in a close game and not allow the Jets O back on the field?

Despite my previous sarcastic comment, the defense was not the problem tonight. It was the offense. Mainly the QB.

Well that’s nice. Then again, guess it’s never been exposed before…

He’s not being used. More than once he was free and looking for the ball tonight, but Josh didn’t throw to him.

The defense was shattered at that point. They needed the O to get points on the board, give them a cushion, spend time on the field to help them recover. Not keep being put out there because of boneheaded idiocy.

Only one dud - Josh. Don’t throw simple picks, take what the defense gave him, and we would have won.