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I’d be surprised if any of the DNP’s from today play on Sunday. Wouldn’t be shocked if White appeared, though. We have another Thursday game after the Lions, against the Pats. The ten day break is after that.

Could a nerve issue still be a grade 1 strain?

The defense was weakened with injuries and kept them to two touchdowns - on both occasions they were not solely at fault for them. The last drive was gut wrenchig, yet, but even then they stopped them with a field goal. I agree we cannot afford to defend in that manner against stronger sides than the Jets. But. purely reflecting on Sunday, the defeat was not down to the defense. The offense had far more issues, especially considering they had less injury problems on the day.

We could do with the bye now, rather than in week seven.

My concern with the Browns game is Hunt and Chubb unless we tighten up on execution with the run defense. If it becomes a shoot out a lack of Josh might cost us. And Minnesota have Cook. We shut Henry down brilliantly earlier in the season and have to get back to that.

In fairness, only the past five quarters. Josh's ceiling is massively higher than Keenum so clearly he'll be a huge loss.

That’s one of the silver linings. The other silver lining, as said before, could be Josh gets to shake his head and work through the funk he’s in by watching the game. I’m not much less confident in winning on Sunday with Keenum than I was with Josh, considering his plays over the past five quarters.

The Falcons game is probably the closest in similarity to whatever happened against the Jets. Know I’m stuck in a loop but it’s annoying as I thought he’d got over those kinds of errors.

Josh’s pass completion percentage on Sunday was 52.9%. If he had managed 72% we would have won. ETA - He’s only been above 72% once all season.

We gave him options for a short passing game in the second half against the Packers and the Jets. For the most part he didn't take them and it cost us. Just like defense, the issue is execution over play calling. We could arguably let off the defense considering how it's decimated but a high calibre QB who had shown he'd developed his game away from that? I'm interested to know what happened in training between the Packers and the Jets considerirng the warning signs were present during the former.

Straw clutching but we can hope it will help. That, and Dorsey will have to try and create a running game as Keenum won't be able to do it all with his arm.

I agree regarding the lack of check downs and what really bugs is pre-bye he was doing this. I guess that’s why the Josh who appeared since the second half against Green Bay is so annoying - he seemed to have learned the lesson but has now regressed.

My only hope would be it’ll push McDermott and Dorsey to try and utilise the whole offense rather than putting a load on the QB’s back, which could the be continued after Josh returns. And Keenum may protect the ball better than Josh has over the last five quarters.

I have a feeling that Josh trusts Diggs but that’s it. He’ll throw to the likes of Davis, McKenzie, Shakir and Knox if they’re there but they’re not his preferred option. Maybe the interceptions have re-enforced that in his mind.

Makes sense. I wish Josh wasn't missing off the back of a poor passing performance though. It's a bit like losing before a bye - it's horrible having to wait to try and shake it off.

If one side of the team has issues then it's up to the other side of the team to pick it up. We barely had any issues on offense and our defense had issues. Our defense needed our offense to step up and help them out.

My concern is, if he does play, he'll be overhyped going off those comments. Add in compensating for his arm and poor last five quarters, it adds up to issues on offense again.

It feels like blame has to be apportioned anywhere to keep it away from Josh. He was largely at fault for Sunday and, credit to him. he owned it. I've said it before but for the first touchdown drive, the defense got off the field only for Specials Team to mess up. For the second touchdown, Josh threw an interception which gave them good field position. Basically our defense was at solely at fault for six points. I think that's fine.

Hope everyone realises McDermott's update tomorrow will be "we're taking it day by day".

Grasping at straws, but perhaps if Josh is missing a game or two it will force Dorsey and co to try and implement a run game of sorts. If it works, then they can continue to execute it when Josh returns. Of course, if it doesn't... I would prefer if Josh didn't miss any game time, of course.

My rational side says you're absolutely right. My emotional side is concerned. Almost wish we had the Thursday night game to put it right sooner but think Josh needs all the time he can get for the elbow to heal.

For the most part we can probably do without Josh OR Poyer and Milano for a handful of games in the regular season, as long as those playing don't mess the bed. But we can't afford to be missing all three.

Stop being rational, I'm not ready to be rational yet! I guess in all those losses listed weaknesses and issues were exposed and then worked on. And I agree, people forget how average at best much of the regular season was in 2021. The issue is, we want to have home field advantage so top seed is key. A defeat to a dceent but limited Jets side does not help.

Very mature. Going by your replies, I'm assuming you feel Sunday was just one of those days and won't have a long term impact?

IIRC, with the first touchdown drive, the defense got off the field and then Special Teams messed the bed. For the second touchdown Josh gave their offense great field position. Arguably, the defense were solely responsible for just six points on Sunday. They even stopped a well positioned drove when we kicked off out of bounds. The final drive was horrific but they were gassed. And TOP isn’t everything - look at us at the Fins. It’s being sensible with the ball when we had it and we weren’t. I’m not saying that there are not issues with the defense as there clearly is. But would I say the defeat was down to them on Sunday? Maybe shockingly, no.