UKBillFan

Yes, IMO Darnold would appear to be a better Quarterback if he was with the Chiefs and I doubt Mahomes would look quite so good if he was with the Jets.

The debate over Josh v Watson makes me return to the question posted earlier in the thread - if a miracle happened and the opportunity was there would you straight swap Watson for Josh? If Watson joins AFCE he joins AFCE. There’s no point bellyaching about it and we can’t do anything about it. Admittedly it would be annoying as it feels like we held the upper hand in the conference and suddenly there’d be another excellent Quarterback in our midsts but that’s what can happen in the NFL.

Surely the only reason not to have Allen sign a new contract is if there’s a fear he’ll go the same way as Wentz?

Almost felt like he lost faith in defense and offense; it became damage limitation rather than taking the game to the Chiefs.

The game is a bit of a blur now - did Josh get hit during the previous possession?

The defat is acceptable, the manner of it not. It was a worrying shambles and I do fear what it means for us moving forward as we seem miles off the Chiefs. On the other hand... the Saints overturned the Bucs twice across the main season, one a blowout on their home patch. Come the play offs it was a different affair. That’s all I can hang on to at the moment.

We need to just make the Super Bowl - we can hardly be fussy about who joins us from the NFC.

Or, in the Packers case, the Bucs. 😀 I do think Josh had nerves yesterday and why shouldn't he? As already alluded to earlier in the thread, look what happened to Brady and Rodgers yesterday - two Quarterbacks with far more experience than Josh at the play offs. One threw three picks, the other failed miserably to take advantage and threw two of his own. If he shows signs of this if/when we next make the play offs then maybe something deeper needs to be considered but my question is was anyone trying to help him yesterday? The offense was horrific and the coaching dire - we've expected Josh to pull us through time and time again and eventually that was never going to be enough. At this stage my fear for next season isn't Josh but other parts of the team.

So they kept the Chiefs offence off the field for longer yet they managed to gain more yardage and that’s without Mahomes for a quarter and a bit?

It gives me confidence that you think there will be a rivalry despite yesterday but maybe that’s because everything is feeling slightly raw at the moment. ☺️

As long as Josh continues his development and doesn’t regress. For every Brady and Mahomes there’s a Goff and Wentz.

Thanks for not gloating. I’m hoping you’re right but the gap between the two teams stood out a mile last night which is a bit of a concern. I was ready for a defeat but not necessarily the comprehensive way it came about.

It was about 2.30 in the morning here but wasn’t the interception to Brown, who got both hands to it but deflected rather than caught it?

I guess, as someone who thinks Josh could become a future MVP/Hall of Famer, the age thing grates. Yes, he is 24 but at his age Mahomes was winning a Super Bowl.

He through too hard/high on a couple of occasions but that’s all I can think of. The sacks were worrying but he was trying to make plays out of nothing at that point. He improved on completions this season; hopefully he’ll improve on decision making in this offseason.

Because the Mahomes v Brady Super Bowl was destiny. The Packers fans questioned a number of decisions against the Bucs too. Saying that, I think if the game had been officiated fairly we still would have lost - it may have just been closer.

I can’t cheer for the Chiefs. Their gamesmanship yesterday plus the arrogance of the fans (which will now just grow further) reminds me of the Pats era we’ve just come through.

I know I shouldn’t be pointing the finger at the officials, and our issues were far greater than just him, but why was Jones even on the field after that first quarter(?) punch?

If the Quarterbacks switched teams then the Chiefs still would have won. Mahomes got protection and free receivers, something Josh didn’t have all night. Don’t get me wrong, I do think Mahomes is better than Josh at the moment but he was helped all the way by the rest of the team.

Teams figured Josh out because we only have one way of playing - we have no variation so we can be countered. I think the fact that we got to the AFC Championship game on a one dimensional game is something to be applauded in a way, rather than be fearful about. Put Josh with Reid, Kelce, Hill, the KC O-Line and the Chiefs would have still won yesterday, even if we had Mahomes in return.