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speaking of data... https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2020/10/nba-playoff-ratings-decline-finals-record-low-sports-viewership/#:~:text=The 2020 NBA Playoffs averaged,and June (4.83M). Steep NBA playoff drop in line with broader trend asserts from the article: "While the coverage might make one believe that the NBA suffered a sharper ratings drop than any other league, the numbers tell a different story." "The 37 percent decline is in line with the broader trend facing the sports industry since the wave of cancellations and postponements in March. The NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs declined an almost identical 38% across NBC’s TV and digital platforms (from 1.53M to 953K) and the MLB Division Series sank 40% on TBS, FS1 and MLB Network (from 3.04M to 1.82M)." "Like the playoffs as a whole, the steep drop for the Finals is in line with the industry-wide trend. Even after losing half of its year-ago audience, the Finals held up better than the Stanley Cup Final (-61%) or the final round of golf’s U.S. Open (-56%), which were similarly shifted from June to late summer." " During the playoffs, the NBA delivered television’s highest rating in adults 18-49 on 30 of 41 nights. The final two games of the NBA Finals each had a 3.2 rating in the demo — well below last year’s comparable games, but TV’s best (non-NFL) rating in the demo since February’s Academy Awards. The NBA’s decline has generated greater media attention than those of other sports because of the perception that the league is being punished by viewers for its support of the Black Lives Matter movement. The data does not indicate any meaningful shift in the racial make-up of the league’s audience. Through the first four games of the NBA Finals, white viewers made up 45 percent of the audience. That compares to 46 percent last year." Sports viewing trend also note that soccer is not even listed on this chart. So you were saying??

yea it's a personnel preference and a regional thing as well. As you know college sports aren't popular up north here where we are, but down south of course it's treated like a major sport. Although i agree with what the game has become with the 3 point shooting and how it's viewed and it has taken away some aspect of the sport viewing wise, but if you are a fan, you are a fan. Yes the center position or a big man as you knew it is gone. But that has evolved "the big man" to an all around player. Sports in general evolves and grows as athletes grow (TEs in football : about 10 plus years ago where mainly used for blocking and pass catching once in a while-now today's TE can catch more than they block) The big man in today's basketball he doesn't just stay in the paint any more..he can dribble and shoot. It is a gift and a curse because for those who watch the sport see a luka doncic who can do it all for someone his height and it's great to see. You then get a Joel Embiid who does shoot from 3 too much and should be in the paint more.

Soccer is never gonna be dominate in the United States. That statement was made when MLS first hit and to this day it's still not being watched. ratings for all sports are down. For those complaining about basketball. The urban kids or kids in general are still keeping the sport alive. YOU(people complaining) may not watch it but it remains one of the more popular sports with the youth. H.S. school games are being played on ESPN, AAU is a big money marker for brands such as Nike, Adidas and Under armour. Game advances and doesn't worry about older folks complaining about it. also what you(people) are complaining about with basketball-people complain about football.....baseball...etc. All personnel preference.

Oh waaah....I am upset cause he didn't slap hands, "slap hands..." I guess 20 years of rag dolling ya...would get you upset.

Because BB sends players packing early instead of waiting before its too late. Plus Gilmore is coming up on a payday and BB doesn't wanna pay since Gilmore is getting older.. Football players don't act like fans... If your team is good or willing to pay. Free agents will come.

Oh also to put a end to this "hot take" The pro bowl selection by every team is for starters although he starts now Jason McCourty and Stephon Gilmore are the starters and were listed as the starters and were the ones put on the ballot in the beginning of the season so that is why he was not put on by the ballot..

This can't be true cause according to fans, BB has acquired any talent since Jamie Collins

Not saying you...but I hate when fans act like that...hating cause another player gets hype or gets overly hype..like its the media's job to sell stars. IMO "Let Jackson eat" he is no where as bad as fans make him out to be.

Don't understand the Jackson hate from NFL fans everywhere. He doesn't seem like a bad QB at all when he has to throw... If Allen could transform himself into a actual QB. I do not see why Jackson couldn't...

First off....do you know or understand how the drafts board works or how teams move up and down..clearly you don't. Sec. nobody knew how Brady was going to end up..so you can pick your QB anywhere you like if you have any understanding what other teams before you and after you are going to do. (Generally that's common knowledge to all of them in draft rooms) 3rd....why does it matter where he was drafted by the pats..what significance is it? Service absolutely no purpose at all...cause he was never going to be 1,2,3 rounder and you wouldn't pick him that high giving him that type of money if you know you can get him in later rounds.. football is chess they get paid to think like pros not salty fans..

Huh? Where in my post did you read me saying just that? Also just for the sake of your post. They could trade for a QB..just for the sake of the discussion.. Matt Ryan could become available Jimmy Garoppolo could become available..there are multiple ways of rebuilding your team...and I am just spit balling...

I am not arguing the grade of that draft or any of the pats draft.... You do not "luck" into a 6 round pick..ha ha not at pick 199..nobody including the pats knew he was going to be great...he worked at it...his coaches helped him...my point.

What exactly does Josh Allen have to do with this..I honestly miss that point? Rex Ryan is not even in the NFL anymore? Anytime you want to argue with his peers about the nickname they refer to him as..go right ahead My whole thing over this BB/Brady debate Let's actually try debating this 3/4 seasons after.. not barely out of the first season...thats just dumb.

So people don't have to make up stories to best fit their own agenda... https://www.businessinsider.com/patriots-draft-tom-brady-2014-5 How The Patriots Drafted A Hall Of Fame Quarterback In The 6th Round Excerpts from the article: A lot of people think the Patriots just got lucky in drafting a future Hall of Famer so late in the draft. In reality, luck had very little to do with it. The Patriots Were High On Brady Prior to the draft, quarterbacks coach Dick Rehbein was sent to scout quarterbacks, Belichick said in an interview with NFL Network. When he returned, Rehbein told Belichick that Brady was "the best fit for the [Patriots'] system" and others in the front office and among the coaches agreed. .... "But we were looking for the mental makeup...Belichick did a lot of homework on him, along with our staff, on his mental makeup. Watching the tape, he was the guy that would go in and lead them back to victory."

Where did i say that? I have said the complete opposite, so thanks for furthering some of my points.

Picking up free agents is part of being a GM too. Glimore anyone......(whole list of others)

Thread. He is not given up his duties nor is he going to retire anytime soon. He has stated that in the past.

first sentence sour grapes...boooo hooo i am going to call them "cheaters" your second sentence is you just unwilling to give any credit so i will let you sit on your hill. whether it was BB first choice or last..what does that matter...he was drafted and developed under BB... and if and when plans change..come find me to tell me "you told me so..."

Oh and another thing. He plans on coaching for at least another 5 years he has said that already. I do not know why that is so hard to understand. Nothing happening right now is changing that. He wants to show he can do it without Brady so he is not "quitting" anytime soon. And again this is year one...not 5 years Into a patriots rebuilded.

I think I acknowledge the first sentence that every great coach has great players. So you need to direct that to your follow poster. Who also said he is just an average coach. Which he is far from that. Next he didnt "luck" into Brady. Brady was a 6 round pick who everyone in the NFL past up on. He was not a projected first rounder who "fell" into BB lap. He was past on by everyone. BB drafted him and helped developed him big part of this debate that gets glossed over. BB help Brady grow into a great QB. As you know history shows you great QBs are not late round picks....alot went into Brady's development and BB was apart of that. Adding to BB legend and complete asinine to think It was all Brady.

Because 1. They weren't good 2. The name he earned it from his peers ...you wanna go tell actual NFL heads he is just an average coach? If BB was to become a free agent coach right now...in fact put every coach back in a pot and or lottery and let's see who get picked first.. Take Brady and Bruce Adrians off the bucs now. Switch them w Cam and BB and let me know what team would do better, sinse we are going to be irresponsible and debate Brady/BB after barely one season.

Yes I am referring to you because If you did, you would know. Every great coach has great player(s). Don Shula w Marino Walsh w Montana Etc. And BB is not the same coach he was in Cleveland. I know his detractors can't understand that cause after all. The Browns had all those great coaches after he left.. BB had his defensive game plan w the giants in the SB elected into the HOF Won his first SB against the rams with Tom Brady not being Tom Brady yet..won his last SB so far without Tom Brady not doing anything... BB with his JV squad could easily of been 6-2 this year all things considering...there is quite a few things you can see of his resume that would show he is a great coach.. The numerous times he has confused the hell out of Manning for one...

ha ha at just a good coach.. someone needs to look at his resume a little deeper...and who the hell every called Kraft a coach magnet...do you realize how owning a team works. If BB left tomorrow and for the sake of the discussion Kraft called up Jim harbaugh and offer him full control of the team. He would sign right?

at this point...makes not sense for the Pats to try to make the playoffs. I wanna think BB knows that.. I mean they could of easily have been 6-2-with last sec loses to seattle and buffalo...but I am all for regrouping for next season.

Sums it all up right here.