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I’ll update owners to teams in about an hour.
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I added another trade option to the poll, that I think might be the best trade up option. We would move up to 20, lose our later 2nd, but gain a 3rd. We would sacrifice some of the 5th round picks as well.
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Hi Everyone and a welcome to the TSW Mock Draft 3.0 sign-up thread. Not many changes to the format this year, but the rules and expectations are as follows: Mock 3.0 is 1 round and with trades. Future mocks will have different rules. The Bills selection will be done by a survey of the BPA’s at the time. The Draft will begin once all 32 owners have been found. If that does not occur until after 7p est on 4/20/25, then the draft will begin at 8a on 4/21. Please vote in the poll linked below: Owners - To volunteer to serve as a team GM, you need to: · Be in good standing on this site (daily activity, account history, etc) · Reply in this thread with the top 3 teams you want to manage (only listing one will be ignored) · Be prepared to keep up with your picks (3 hour window between picks) · Be prepared to follow the posting guidelines when it’s your pick (failure to do so might lead to your exclusion to participating in future mocks) Tools: Trade Value Chart: https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=buf Thank you section122 for making a team needs spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13E6NwiyWwlG63ERgr8aJWnE67diI_DqCVNDvE4c2U4c/edit?gid=54255685#gid=54255685 Rules: · Every owner has 3 hours to make their pick · GM’s cannot control the same team in different mock drafts · Trades must match the trade value chart linked above at a min · No players can be traded (We have allowed trades in prior years for players that were for certain on the trade block, but that does not seem to be the case this year. No, we are not going to allow a James Cook trade unless something comes out that he’s on the block) · When you pick, you must use the following format · With the 30th pick, the Buffalo Bills select Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming @Virgil is on the clock. (Commas and caps make my life easier when updating the page) · When you pick, please give a few sentence summary as to why you made the pick you did. The more commentary and ownership, the better the experience. · Draft hours are from 8am-10pm EST. If your pick comes up at 9p, you have until 10a the next morning. With that being said, below are the available teams: (First time we've done this where all 32 teams have a 1st round pick) Round 1 1 - Titans (3000) - Cam Ward, QB, Miami 2 - Browns (2600) - Virgil - Abdul Carter, Edge, Penn St 3 - Giants (2200) - JJGauna - Travis Hunter, ATH, Colorado 4 - Patriots (1800) - Kirby Jackson - Will Campbell, OT, Louisiana St 5 – Jaguars (1700) - Bill from NYC - Kelvin Banks, OT, Texas 6 - Raiders (1600) - section122 - Ashton Jeanty, RB, Boise St 7 - Jets (1500) *Trade* Steelers - Doc Brown - Shedeur Sanders, QB, Colorado 8 - Panthers (1400) - LEBills - Jalon Walker, EDGE, Georgia 9 - Saints (1350) - Mike in Horseheads - Jaxson Dart, QB, Ole Miss 10 - Bears (1300) - TPS - Mason Graham, DT, Michigan 11 - 49ers (1250) - GunnerBill - Walter Nolen, DT, Ole Miss 12 - Cowboys (1200) - RyanC883 - Tetairoa McMillan, WR, Arizona 13 - Dolphins (1150) - HappyDays - Will Johnson, DB, Michigan 14 - Colts (1100) - BigdaddyinOrlando - Coltston Loveland, TE, Michigan 15 - Falcons (1050) - Draconator - Mike Green, EDGE, Marshall 16 - Cardinals (1000) - Might Rather - Mykel Williams, Edge, Georgia 17 - Bengals (950) - NewEra - Shemar Stewart, Edge, Texas A&M 18 - Seahawks (900) - section122 - Armand Melbourne, OT, Missouri 19 - Bucs (875) - K-No - Jihaad Campbell, LB, Alabama 20 - Broncos (850) - Virgil - Omarion Hampton, RB, UNC 21 - Steelers (800) *Trade* Jets - Alphadawg7 - Matthew Golden, WR, Texas 22 - Chargers (780) - QLBillsFan - Luther Burden III, WR, Missouri 23 - Packers (760) - gonzo1105 - Jahdae Barron, DB, Texas 24 - Vikings (740) - Big Blitz - Malaki Starks, S, Georgia 25 - Texans (720) - CNYfan - Josh Conerly Jr, OT, Oregon 26 - Rams (700) *Traded* Bills - TSW Poll - Kenneth Grant, DT, Michigan 27 - Ravens (680) - Mike In Horseheads - Donovan Ezeiruaku, Edge, Boston College 28 - Lions (660) - frostbitmic - Emeka Egbuka, WR, Ohio St 29 – Commanders (640) - Might Rather - Nick Emmanwori, S, South Carolina 30 - Bills (620) *Traded* Rams - MrEpsYtown - Tyler Warren, TE, Penn St 31 - Chiefs (600) - HappyDays - Josh Simmons, OT, Ohio St 32 - Eagles (590) - MrEpsYtown - James Pearce Jr., Edge, Tennessee
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The Bills are going to do whatever wins the poll in the next mock
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As it stands now, I would try to make the winning trade first, pre-draft. If they say no, then I move on to the next team, and so on. If no one is willing to trade, then we don’t trade.
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You’re not wrong. Personally, I don’t like the last trade up option because I don’t see that putting us in position for anyone that won’t still be there at 30. Almost every player people on here are clamoring for went in the top 20, but no one wants to trade up and get it. I’m sorry, but Amos and Grant are not in the same tier to ke as players in that top 20. But I’m going to respect the outcome of the poll
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Yup, that was a typo. It's fixed now
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Does anyone have a full list of Bills/Prospect visits?
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Based on this list, the Bills have not met with anyone more than twice. I feel like that seems low. We have met with: 8 DBs 15 DTs 8 Edge 2 K 5 LB 1 LS 2 OL 2 P 3 RB 9 S 1 TE 17 WR -
For the TSW 3.0 Mock draft (final one of the year), the Bills will be trading up from #30. If you aren't a fan of the trade up, please refer to mocks 1.0 and 2.0 to see what we decided to do while staying put at #30. These mocks are meant to walk through different scenarios and see what all could happen. With that being said, please vote for which trade up option you would prefer to see, and the Bills will attempt to make that trade. If we can't, then we will default the second trade option, and so on. I also recognize that it's tough to trade up when you don't know who will be available, so please comment below who you were hoping to trade up for. It's not an exact science here, so trying my best.
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Last year, we knew about all of the combine, college pro day, phone/virtual, and in person visits the Bills had. Does anyone have that for this year? Granted, last year it made me think we were definitely going to draft either Troy Franklin or Xavier Legette, but still....
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Return of the Tre! (Tre White signs with the Bills)
Virgil replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Doesn't matter. Didn't you hear? We are only drafting defensive linemen with all 10 picks. The QB's won't be able to get the ball off -
ESPN grade 42. Late round
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Return of the Tre! (Tre White signs with the Bills)
Virgil replied to FireChans's topic in The Stadium Wall
Hopefully he’s healed up. He got smoked a lot last year. If the Ravens didn’t want him back, that’s saying something -
I really hope we don’t touch next years picks, as this is an overall weak draft. If we can get what we need this year without dipping into next year, that would be ideal I think.
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In my mind, a scenario might be using a 4th to move up in the 1st a few spots, to get Grant. Then use both 2nds to move up and get Amos. Not saying they should do it, but based off mocks and trade charts, that could get it done.
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I think that's very doable, but might require more trading than people would like. Grant looks to go anywhere between 20-30, while Amos could go anywhere from 25-40. To get both, I think we would need to trade our 1st, both 2nd's, and probably a 4th. To me, I'm okay with that, as everyone else is going to be depth on this team that we hope pan out. If Amos can start and hold his own, and Grant makes us better up the middle, than we are incrementally better.
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With the draft a week away, and the two consensus needs on this team being a DB who can start on the outside, and a big bodied DT to stuff the run, as well as push the middle alongside Ed, I'm curious to see who you all think fit that mold? I'm fully aware the draft is a crap shoot and there's plenty of defensive stars drafted every year outside of the first round. In this draft, we know the defensive line depth is strong, while there's a huge drop off at DB after the first few guys. With all of that being said, who are those DT's that you think can push us over the hump in the playoffs and ruin Mahomes' day?
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Okay, that’s a wrap everyone. With spring break and Easter coming up, we are going to pause before 3.0. Signup thread will go up Saturday, with the draft starting Monday. It will be one round with trades. There will be a poll about the Bills trading up. And to be clear, we will be trading up. We have two mocks where we stayed put, this is to show what it would be like if we didn’t. Get the complaining out of your systems now 😋
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Next version is going to include a trade up. Just a heads up
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Him and the kid from Buffalo. Those would be some great later round picks and make me feel a lot better about our LB depth and special teams.
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The Buffalo Bills traded the #62 pick to the San Francisco 49ers. San Francisco Trades: 75, 100, 113, and 249 for 384 Points The Bills trade: 62, 109, and 177 for 380 Points @MrEpsYtown is on the clock
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TSW 2.0 Poll - Who should the Bills select at #62
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
This is the only trade offer we received: San Francisco Trades: 75, 100, 113, and 249 for 384 Points The Bills trade: 62, 109, and 177 for 380 Points -
TSW 2.0 Poll - Who should the Bills select at #62
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Less than two hours less. I want to remove a receiver, but they are tied. -
TSW 2.0 Poll - Who should the Bills select at #62
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Edited to the top 4. Please re-vote if your player was eliminated -
TSW 2.0 Poll - Who should the Bills select at #62
Virgil replied to Virgil's topic in The Stadium Wall
Updated to the top 7. Please re-vote if your player was eliminated