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I know nothing about the bodybuilder world, but these are the claims:

You're kidding, right? Sammy "boo boo foot" and now I look like a tight end" Watkins, 32 year old Woods, and "never healed from my groin injury" Harvin? Nuts You think Tyrod was out there trying to ball and thinking "lemmee see, if I throw the ball away here and have a sucky low completion % I benefit me?" Oh Kay....

I'm pretty sure that's what he did with his house in West Seneca - bought it for the property and had the house torn down and a new house built to Brittany's specs. So that could be happening. Seems crazy, but if he wants "in" to the Monarch Point golf club and the security, he's got the money to do that.

Oh great now I'm a TMZ article (only without the flashy headlines and gushy text)

Josh has owned a house, in the Dana Point area, for years - since the 2020 off season? I think before that he was leasing a house in that area off-season. Marc Sanchez talked about being invited to the house warming in his 2020 "Fourth and Forever" interview with Josh (pretty funny interview - both very relaxed with each other, worth a listen) I'm sure the house was all trendy and decorated by his then-girlfriend Britt who posted all sorts of social media stuff about it. It was really close to the beach, she posted pics of them walking down to the beach with Sky. Reasons to buy different house: 1) Don't think his previous house was in a gated community and may not have had access to a private golf club and private beach . Now that he's more known nationally and has paparazzi stalking his Mexican vacation with Hailee Steinfeld, he may feel the need for more privacy and security 2) Maybe the other house had Britt memories he wanted to leave behind 3) Maybe Britt got the other house as part of a Palimony settlement.

You guys may be correct. Which would totally suck, if that's what shortened his career.

So your argument is that comparison to Newton is invalid because of the whims of the refs? I'd like to find a source for stats on QB hits behind the LOS - don't have one. But in his 10 years in Carolina, Newton was sacked an average of 30 times per year. In 5 years, Allen has been sacked 150 times (30 times per year) Allen has rushed 546 times (109 times per year), meaning he's taken that many hits. In his 10 years in Carolina, Newton rushed 981 times (98 times per year). Those data would seem to indicate similar amounts of physical punishment. Pretty sure Allen doesn't draw a flag every single time he's hit after he throws, either - and when he runs, he's very physical. He stiff arms guys, runs over them, jumps over them.

Yeah, I'm out of the area and don't have too much interest in much of the content now. That's gonna lose me.

Sooooo. Cam Newton started his career with 49 consecutive starts. Then missed the 1st game of the 2014 season, played 16 games that season and 19 games the next. First 5 years of his career, he was pretty dang durable - until he wasn't. The point being - a "Mack Truck" or "Transformer" of a guy, is on the field and available all the time, until he isn't. And his determination to be that way, in itself takes a toll when the guy insists on playing hurt. From the glimpses we saw in OTAs and mini-camp, it looks as though Josh may have "dodged a bullet" to any harms by playing through his torn UCL. RBs have short careers in the NFL for a reason, even when they don't miss games for injuries. All the hits they take add up, and their body presents the bill when they near 30.

Applaud the sentiment, but 3 weeks I believe. July 26th

Agreed. "The media overreacted" is pretty damned general to take personally, unless Thad Brown wants to lump himself in with every media outlet in the country. Which, would not recommend itself to me if I were in his position, but Thad's gotta Thad.

That's - ______ Speechless. I'm pretty sure that's also illegal (threatening a witness) but unsure. He can be pretty funny and even interesting with the right interviewers. His interview with Marc Sanchez on "Fourth and Forever" is classic. But then Sanchez knows something about the life of an NFL QB and could draw him out on life in the huddle, cold weather, etc.

At a guess....the low completion % probably reflects someone who "doesn't take chances" and is throwing the ball away a lot when he can't find a receiver that is open to his satisfaction but doesn't have a good pass-protecting OL and doesn't want to risk a strip sack trying to manuever and wait.

For those who don't want to wade through, Josh Allen interview starts 43:13 in. 58:03 "You're in the tabloids, there are all these rumors, you're dating an actress. Want to talk about your personal life?" "No Comment". Anyone know who Josh is looking at off camera when he turns his head and says "you're an #######"?

Mahomes working out with some of the receivers in the draft is, IMO, almost Belicheck-like skirting of the regulations about team visits and work outs. It's entirely possible Allen was still resting and rehabbing his elbow at that point pre-draft. It's also entirely possible that isn't something the Bills would like him to do. Whether or not something is reported, depends upon who is involved and whether or not the players want it reported. In the past, players have talked in pre-season about going out to throw with Josh, and it was never reported until they said something. When Diggs helped get Josh and the receivers together in 2020 when OTAs were cancelled, it was reported because the players wanted it to be. They invited Buffalo photographer Joe Croom (and I think a videographer), and he posted photos and some videos of the workouts. But if they didn't do that, who would know? There are a lot of quality football fields in the country. The sports media isn't staking out every one. They aren't even staking out all of the ones near locations where Allen is known to be staying.

I imagine that just like IRL, for an NFL player there are guys ya love, and guys ya can do without... I haven't noticed that having the money to "live the life of their dreams" keeps some people from being unhappy, or just being jerks. But, I do think successful QB have to have the skill of being 'likeable' and drawing people in. That was actually the big mistake I made when I thought Josh Rosen (yes .... I was a "wrong Josh" er who had to reform...) would be a good NFL QB. I totally underestimated the impact of being a likeable guy who players WANT to "go hard" for.

Twitter won't let me view for some reason, what does it say? So, in one of his Kyle Brandt Basement segments, Allen himself said that the UCL injury forced him to return to an overhand throwing motion and away from the rotational throwing motion he had developed. The overhand throwing motion is the motion Josh had in college and in his first 2 years in the league. During that time, Josh Allen was noticably less accurate on short passes. People such as myself observed this and commented multiple times "gotta hit the bunnies, Josh!" during this time. So there's a bit of addition going on here by "some people on the board", like me, but it's not based on "just a sports chiropracter" or "convicing ourselves", it's based upon something Josh Allen himself said in a publicly available interview, added to observations about what Josh's accuracy was like on short and short/intermediate passes when he was using the throwing motion he said he was forced to revert to.

I wish we had a 💖 emoji for response. Love ya Chand!

I hope so. But it's not unknown for rookies to take a while to adjust to the NFL

Allen has been supportive and complimentary of Mahomes, he played with him last season. And Knox pals up with Kelce every year at their TE University or whatever they call it

Cue all the KC fan handwringing over how Mahomes has "lost focus" ? Or no?

I'm not going to continue this. But you realize there's a fundamental contradiction implicit in what you say. You say "Getting to the Superbowl and winning it is Allen's trajectory. ....Hopefully he and the team will take the next step this coming season" He and the team. Not he. Getting to the Superbowl and winning it is a TEAM trajectory. It takes 53 players plus coaches. So yes, not progressing towards that is a step back. But it's the TEAM's step back, not Allen's. I also disagree with "if you're not progressing you're regressing". "holding steady" is an option. But by that metric, wouldn't you have to say that Allen regressed in 2021 too? After all, the TEAM lost in the Division round whereas the previous year, they went to the AFCCG. Yet anyone would tell you that Allen's playoff performances in 2021 were elite, whereas in 2020, the team got seriously outplayed in the AFCCG, including Allen. See how puzzling that "getting to the Superbowl and winning" metric can be? If it isn't just one game, it's a pattern...then there ought to be some sort of objective metric you can point to to show "regression".

How do we know Allen isn't working with Palmer this off-season? Has Allen said so?

That would be grand! Historically, it can take guys a while to learn the nuances of NFL defenses. On the other hand, Kincaid is 6'4" so "it's always open 2 feet over his head" might help