BigBillsFan

I have all seen of our games this year. I saw a lot of outstretched hands, balls low, knuckle ball throws (leads to drops), and that makes it hard to get YAC. Also our team ranks 29th, I gave the link. Where's your proof to your statement about those teams? Lions & Giants I could see. Lions only had Stafford for 8 games, the rest was weird QB central. I just looked and Atlanta, a team you cited has 2 players in the top 40 for YAC, Philly had 2 in the top 40 so I "dunno" what you're referring to. See? This was a good but I do have questions about. Is yards of separation a real correlation? Julio Jones is below Dawson Knox and John Brown. The same with Devante Parker and Kenny Golladay. Have have less yards per separation. Michael Thomas has 2.6 yards per separation and John Brown 2.4. I do agree with screens and checkdowns being part of it.

I wanted to look up our YAC and I thought it was interesting: Only Beasley is in the top 50 this year and the rest are 100th+: https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/stats?season=2019&week=100&category=RECEIVING&opp=0&sort=5&qualified=1&sortOrder=0&page=1 Our team was 29th: http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders.asp?type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=231 In 2018 both Zay and Kevlin had negative YAC https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2019/2018-yac This tells me they aren't being hit in stride or catching it awkwardly. IMO it means they are catching the ball in zones, which I've seen but this pretty bad. A larger WR won't fix that problem. How do you guys think this is fixable? Is it an accuracy/precision question? That's my guess.

Almost exactly the same. My only difference is I'm not sure McD knows offense. If our schedule holds true without massive FA losses to some of those teams you just can't hold teams to under 17 points and get to 17 to win. The new threshold is 24 points (according to statisticians). The rules are too pro-offense to just hope the D pulls through. I really think McD is just as much GM as Beane on the draft, but Beane does the wheeling and dealing for trades. I think their philosophies are too aligned for their strengths on defense to think this isn't the case. I have little confidence in Daboll, optimistic hope with Allen, little confidence in Beans's drafts on offense, and strong confidence in McD's defense. I don't think that wins much anymore except in the regular season against weaker teams. I mean we won 6 games with a garbage team in 2018. I feel like we're the bowler who's awesome at spares instead of strikes.

Might result, not will result. Baltimore's plan is working, ours might work. I still can't see how a QB who has never relied on his arm for yardage is magically going to turn it around in year 3 in the NFL. Big Ben and Wilson had big games in college. Ben in particular had monstrous games. Personally I’ve never understood how a GM makes a decision on a QB without that history, especially a project and not in the 1st round. While I hope Allen becomes great I feel almost positive they will do everything to protect him emotionally from being challenged. I’m still of the belief if we fast-forward this conversation next year at the same time many of you will be singing a different tune. I have a “win-now” mentality when it comes to QBs. It’s now a fairly common believe you can’t win in a QBs next big contract. I remember McVay discussing that last year. If we have to load up this team with superstars to make Allen competent as a passer, we won’t be able to keep that same talent. And even great QBs don’t have great records with big contracts of recent. Young great QBs are the ultimate win-now window in the NFL.

I loved what we did in 2001. We moved back and got Nate Clements later in the 1st and used the extra pick for Travis Henry. We started at 14 that year. In 2020 I would try to push back again and trade back for a later OL and get a 3rd or late 2nd and try to get another RB or best OL or RB.

And this year we'll focus on special teams so the 1st year won't count until 2021. Honestly can't you see the hires they've made on offense problematic? What makes you think it will be different? If they thought Dennison and Zay Jones were so awesome what makes you think they will figure it out in year 4? What evidence is there?

Kelvin Benjamin... if any player pays him more than 10 mil a year they are in trouble.

I still think we should have grabbed some declining vets like Decker, Crabtree or Rishard Matthews.

I would Trust McD more if Dennison wasn't brought in, then fired, then started a season with only 2 inexperienced players for QB and no legit WRs for their 7th overall pick to throw to.

So I show ratings and poll data you give proof but I'm the coward? Projection much? Where's your argument? Oh that's right, you just say a bunch of non-sense and pretend I'm solely focusing on 2 teams. Today I'm not wrong. Ratings are down since 2010-2011 peak and have dropped until 2016-2017. They are finally back to 2016 levels in 2019. So I'm right now and I'll be more right later. Football is still mostly watched by white males, trending older on average at 50 yrs old. Why do you think the NFL is pushing the global cities? Because they see a demographic crisis in the US. But go ahead, pretend you're right with no facts, figures, poll or stat data... but I'm the coward hahahahaha

Every team I would argue struggles with great defenses. In the game of football mismatches are one of the most important parts of success. The best example of how teams can look differently is the change to the Titans before and after Tannehill. They went from 28th in the league to 4th. We don't know what our real struggles are just yet. Maybe our WRs can get open with man. How would we know? Play calling might be different with different circumstances. As you said, both can be true. Obviously I believe in putting better talent on the field on offense, but no one is certain it will make a substantial difference. We might field better talent and still score the same amount of points against better teams with the offset of playing better defenses.

Impressed he recognized the talent on the offense was above-average. So many people are barking it's lack of talent, and it's not. We had an above average O-line, decent receivers, and above average running game. I still think a lot of what we think about the offense will either be exposed with better competition or will be solidified quickly next year. There is no way you give up on a QB like Allen with talent, heart, and desire. He's still the weak point of the team but he could be our biggest strength.

Young people are already tuning out the NFL: https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2019/7/29/20746216/fortnite-world-cup-nfl-age-ratings-viewership-demographics

If ignorance was bliss you'd be raptured. I never said there aren't short term gains. Long-term no one will care. 2019 ratings rebound are on par with 2016. Ratings peaked in 2010 and 2011. Ratings and stats are all against you. Also, have you seen how viewership of the NFL by age demographic is hitting new lows?

My point is they people won't just follow the San Antonio Bulls. Just like they aren't just following the Rams or Chargers. It's why teams in L.A struggled to work. Yes short-term gains, I admitted that. Long-term? Not a chance. Go look at the stadiums even when the Rams had a good year. LA isn't going to watch them. If LA or Las Vegas has noticeably empty seats every home game this year my point is proven. If they are full you're point is proven. Fair enough?

As long as it's not Norman Einstein I'm onboard

There is zero evidence of this. Look at baseball. Look at the Rams when they were trying to sell tickets at $6 and no one comes. Their stadium has a ton of empty seats. While it may have a short term gain watching it on TV/internet, long-term it will kill it. Look at the stadiums of the new teams: Chargers, Rams, even the famous Raiders. Their stadiums are fairly empty. You can't synthesize fan loyalty. Here I'll ask others a question and let's see who is right: If the Bills moved to a different city, let's say San Antonio and went by the San Antonio Bulls would you watch them still? I'll vote no

Sure but we came from a world before the internet. Again this is not dealing with guys who watched the Bills as kids and had a real connection to fandom. I’m referring to young people who grew up thinking of football through a computer screen, and fantasy… that will erode fandom. It’s like how computers make people say things they would never say to your face. Social media has people more of idiots You don’t love your family MORE when you see them less, when you don’t grow up with them, and kids who only see a team on a screen and even more so through box scores on a screen will never love the game like their grandfathers. Part of liking a team isn’t watching them, it’s the people you watched it with, the bond you had around the team. For a few people that might be the case, but real fans are typically born from someone close to you enjoying the game with you. Make the game a further abstraction and you are eroding fandom. I’m from upstate NY but my kids were raised in Kansas. I could have them go to the Chiefs and like them, but I’m not going to Hell. I love my team. My kids started to celebrate when the Chiefs won and my son who is young said “You must be happy” and I told him I’ll never be happy until the Bill win.

PFF just gave me him a rating of the 150th best DT this season. Congrats Ed! Please break 140 this year!

Yeah I just looked up my reference book... Says right here and I QUOTE: "1st team All-Pro CB is rated the 102nd best player"

he is not McKenzie at all... he can be used out of the backfield He wouldn't be bad on the team for the right price, he's like a more injured version of Sproles.

I answered what you said you read my final paragraph: "It's working now because you love a team. Watch a kid who's dad loves the Bills and they want to play on the net more and do fantasy. Do you really think with such divided loyalties your son will care as much? They can't, they are privately celebrating every touchdown against their home team without the deep seated love we have for their team."

Short-term fantasy has a strong upside. Fans will watch more games. It's working... for now. This is a long-term disaster. Let's pretend we're playing the Browns and you drafted Chubb and he gashes us for 150 yards. Are you not going to celebrate secretly when he rips an 80 yarder? Of course you will. So what that does is destroy your idea of love of your team. We love teams like we love dogs, we love them not because they're beautiful, but because we feel like they won't betray us and we won't betray them. Destroy that idea and watch fandom die. It's working now because you love a team. Watch a kid who's dad loves the Bills and they want to play on the net more and do fantasy. Do you really think with such divided loyalties your son will care as much? They can't, they are privately celebrating every touchdown against their home team without the deep seated love we have for their team.

I think we're close to the time of "peak football" and the decline of the NFL. Baseball had it's resurgence in the 90's with Sosa and McGuire after it's strike and I believe the same is true for football. I think we're only a decade away from more empty stadiums as TV/internet improves and the fan base of going out to the game with dad in the seasons will be seen as too primitive. I also believe a lot of fandom today are not fans at all. Many of our ratings today are based around fantasy people. I think fantasy teams destroy the sport. It's hard not to root for your guy against the interests of your team. It's great for short term gain, terrible for long-term viability. Once we are past the age of peak football I think that's when things get bad: hold-out, strike, and fans don't care as much = decline and less revenue Peak Hollywood was the 90's. Peak baseball was the 90's too. Basketball and football are still doing well. I think CTE, more players retiring early, and less great QBs might accelerate the decline.

If Allen paused one moment that defender could have caught up. An unnecessary block is on the other side of the field. The guy was in 8 yards of him which in football terms is like a second or 2. The call was insane.