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Pretty sure you’ve gotta catch that one lol

Na it’s too easy 😂

Their defense seems to forget how to play late though lol

Jags are a lot better when the home team has to fly across the ocean to meet them during their second week in london

It’s a rule but they neglect to define what uncatchable means lol

Was just gonna say that 😂

Jags oline can just hold whoever they want every week huh

The gameplan has been masking how bad Spencer brown is very well for a majority of the season and Kincaid/Knox have a lot to do with that. People scoff at ‘dink and dunk’ role but that is literally what has been required so far lol the offensive line has been getting smoked the last two weeks and diggs has gotten open a ton it is an absolute no brainer to keep guys in to chip/ run some shorter routes as a safety net for when your qb has 4 pass rushers in his face can’t help but think the giants game goes a little differently if Kincaid plays…nobody else not named diggs got a whole lot of separation early in routes and there just wasn’t enough time in the pocket to hit some guys that would’ve otherwise been schemed open this is obviously my personal opinion but if he looked slow in the nfl or he wasn’t sure handed then I would be concerned for him but neither of those things have been true I think part of it in that chiefs game was mathieu going down early also. Sorensen got absolutely smoked all night

I think McDermott is vastly underrated around these parts and this whole talk of firing him because he can’t outduel likely the best qb of all time in the playoffs is an eerily similar setup to the bears firing lovie smith and promptly becoming an absolute dumpster fire. The guy is getting a ton out of all his defensive players to the point where virtually anyone can step in and play pretty well. We were frequently very bad during the drought and helped out by the fact that two other teams in our division were even worse this feels very ‘grass is greener to me’…look at the dolphins with their offensive mastermind head coach. When they face a playoff caliber opponent their offense struggles and their defense gets smoked and barring a miracle they lose. Dolphins are like 2-7 vs playoff teams in his tenure and those two wins they just barely squeaked by injury ravaged bills and ravens teams

I still don’t get ‘too reliant on diggs’ … he’s not forcing it into triple coverage all game to get him the ball…diggs is our best pass catcher and he’s pretty much always got a step on his defender and when a play breaks down he always helps out his qb.. our best receiver having what’s likely to be a career year that has been pretty much impossible to stop should be a positive.. gabe is certainly frustrating though lol

This team only seems to make plays under massive amounts of duress it is the oddest thing…it’s the football equivalent of missing only layups lol

Teams are still very mindful of josh running which is part of why he’s not doing it. The giants spied him pretty much all game. I think they’re trying to get away from designed qb runs since were running the ball fairly well this season. I didn’t watch the presser but it seems like he said some things in frustration imo…a few teams have done some excellent jobs taking his rushing lanes away this year mcgovern’s bad game really sunk things…the giants dline is actually massively under the radar because people just assume they’re bad at everything. Dexter Lawrence is an absolute beast and Leonard Williams is good…okereke was playing possessed it reminded me of Bernard’s huge game a few weeks ago. I do think a good percentage of what the giants were able to do was predicated on Daboll knowing his ex team very well though

I wonder if things might’ve gone differently if Kincaid was healthy…the whole 12 personnel is a bit of a new wrinkle. this game legitimately scared me all week lol bill belichicks ex coaches always gave him a relative amount of trouble and they were never any good against anyone else. part of me feels bad for Daboll that would’ve been a huge win and their schedule gets softer in the second half. I don’t think things are looking good for him long term in ny as it stands. The Daniel jones contract has an out but it’s still a bit of a head scratcher

Giants defense was nearly flawless imo…they were able to disguise coverages long enough to get pass rushers home pretty much all night and their stunts were massively effective. I know it’s the ‘giants’ but that was probably the best opponent defensive performance we’ve seen all year couldn’t even help those OL out much…cook forgot how to pass block also

Didn’t he steal money from a police officers wife at a bar lol edit: yup people are mentioning that in here

Teams that are declared ‘bad’ are never allowed to improve week to week and never allowed any amount of credit lol that has had me miffed the last couple days. I keep reading ‘played down to their opponent’ but the giants defense was pretty close to flawless. Who even knew what those guys were capable of…they’re always on the field all game defending short fields because the Daniel jones led offense was absolutely atrocious Now people will say ‘oh the giants provided the blueprint and they’re not good so other teams will be able to replicate it’ which isn’t true either because disguising coverages like that without having any big blown coverages takes a tremendous amount of communication In this game compared to other bills games this year? I think that is entirely misleading as game plans vary week to week based on what the defense is doing. And how is ‘given the most amount of time’ calculated…tons of that time he bought himself in collapsing pockets. The whole second half the pressure was pretty much instant. not trying to argue for or against you saying josh had a bad game as there’s nuance involved and people can have their own personal opinions, but the oline objectively got steamrolled in this one

If Dorsey is bad Daboll is just as bad or worse lol pretty sure the rift between Daboll and McDermott started over Daboll not being able to run a successful running play in the first place. At the very least and the maximum good things you can say about Dorsey is at least we can run the football on a light box finally

Josh Allen ain’t leaving a team with his handpicked OC that has occasional offensive line issues but is a contender with one great wide receiver for a team with massive offensive line issues that is barely a contender even after he’s added to the team with 0 good wide receivers. It will not happen in a million years. Daboll will get fired by the giants and McDermott and Daboll will make up and become bffs LONG before josh willingly leaves buffalo for the giants There ain’t a lot of teams that don’t have the issues josh is experiencing now. Miami,philly,SF and maybe Detroit would be improvements but a few of those teams can’t support a big qb contract right now so they’d lose some pieces. Can’t even say kc anymore, I think josh and mahomes are finally on even playing field as far as supporting cast goes. That kc offensive line seems like it’s taken a step back and he’s got one reliable weapon also. Cincy has all the weapons but an even worse offensive line so things aren’t going very well over there either. defensive lines are just too good nowadays…offensive lines are getting more and more outmatched with each passing year to the point where it doesn’t even really matter who your skill position players are you’re not getting them the ball downfield lol

These people pingponging between ‘they’re gonna get josh killed’ and ‘josh Allen isn’t taking enough hits to make plays he should be sprinting headfirst into a pile of linebackers in random regular season games’ are pretty maddening 😂

I wouldn’t expect the refs to let teams get away with massive amounts of holding every week but you never know. I don’t think there’s a lot of reason to panic over this one. And even if they do, I don’t think dhop is a guy that’s gonna be able to beat it at this stage in his career just said this in another thread but the giants pulled off the kc playoff defensive strategy of play a lot of man and just hold everybody lol.

Not trying to say Dorsey is good by any means but it’s hard to evaluate a play caller when his offensive line is getting absolutely smoked. All the supposedly great OCs have looked like absolute poop in the games that happens to them too. Plays have broken down so fast the last two weeks that who even knows what the play design was…and josh is obviously going to look for diggs when sh*t goes sideways haha a good amount of these plays where he ends up going to diggs are backyard football type broken plays. when we have been steadier up front josh has spread the ball a lot the funny thing for me about Dorsey is any time he happens to dosomething right it feels like our players absolutely botch the execution 😂 Daboll/martindale def modeled their defense after those kc playoff defenses that frustrated him when he was with buffalo…line the DT up right over center and play man and hold like crazy on the back end. Refs allowed a lot of it both ways making that game a lot uglier than it needed to be (less flags though) can’t help but think we would’ve won pretty comfortably if they called holding a little tighter. You’re pretty much taking all the man beaters away when you play that way just gotta hope you get away with it…diggs is so good though that he can still get some separation so he was pretty much the only option

Yea that’s the play I was talking about…diggs got held which slowed him down a lot…didn’t look like an overthrow to me at all. Either way that was the right decision because diggs beat his man(men) anyway and nobody else did 😂

This is all overblown…josh got baited into a slant by a LB that dropped out late in the last game but I haven’t really noticed a lot of forcing the ball anywhere since week 1 where he was forcing it deep there was a play people are angry about where josh supposedly threw it to a double covered diggs but diggs had the double coverage beat for a td and the ball was exactly where it needed to be he just got held(no call of course). Davis was also open for a big gain on the first drive but he clearly got held(no call of course). Refs made this game look worse than it was by letting defenders absolutely manhandle passcatchers The holding was insane in this game lol had my conspiracy theory bells ringing that they were sick of blowout primetime games.. bills receivers were getting held all night. Hilariously ironic that the controversy of this game is one uncalled hold when there were dozens most of which were not in the bills favor

This is where I’m at lol I just don’t get it…if you’ve got diggs with an opportunity to catch the ball why would you pass it up to potentially target Davis or Knox….I think he’s gonna build a rapport with Kincaid too since he’s as sure handed as anybody plays have broken down nonstop the last two weeks I’d be lookin to diggs every time too. Can’t roll the dice on guys that can’t even catch wide open passes when you’ve got a limited number of chances to move the ball downfield the way the oline is playing I haven’t watched the video yet but I have seen people falsely criticizing multiple plays designed as a dumpoff to a rb with receivers in tight to block for them haha im gonna guess it’s that before watching

It just feels like the hindsight game to me personally but I respect the opinion for sure. Unless we could visit the alternate timeline where we punted there I guess we’ll truly never know 😂. the way I see it it was the odds of those two guys not connecting on a probably wide open pass and bass missing the fg vs running and punting and holding them but I can see people not interpreting it that way