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Everyone criticizes with the power of hindsight…a Barkley run from the 1 yard line is pretty damn tough to stop and if tyrod got a good look to check into that it was probably a pretty high percentage play. what if they threw the ball and he took a sack?. That’s probably just as likely as stopping saquon on a 1 yd run You completely change the game that way though if you retroactively give the giants points before halftime…the bills last drive they were super conservative and not in 4 down territory. I think you change the playcalling a bit too…doubt they would’ve been satisfied with a 16+ play td drive when trailing two scores lol I don’t think mahomes gets two untimed down type dpis in a row to close out a game that aren’t obscenely egregious. I can’t recall seeing any qb ever get that before

He also had a good/great offensive line pretty much every year…we have never had that

He also made about 4 or 5 nearly impossible throws under instant pressure and went like 11/12 in the second half despite running for his life all night. I don’t think any other qb in the league wins that game there have been games that were absolutely all on him like the jets game week 1 but this was definitely not one of them.. not a great throw to Knox but he’s gotta haul that in It wasn’t a good throw but sometimes your skill position guys have to make plays and knox has dropped plenty. Blaming josh for almost losing this one seems absolutely ridiculous…the oline got absolutely obliterated all night and he was making plays left and right

I don’t think that’s the worst win imo…that giants team really brought it last night. That defensive line of theirs played out of their minds…dexter Lawrence has been a beast all season and we don’t seem to be dealing with interior pressure well since our RT is so bad to begin with lol also with Kincaid out we had to recycle a lot of the plays that Daboll used when he was here a lot of this is people saying ‘well the giants are 1-4 and we almost lost’ but they did not play like a 1-4 team last night. the win against the dolphins in the playoffs was a lot worse I’m not sure they do with judon out…the giants interior pressure absolutely murdered us and as bad as their team has been this year Dexter Lawrence has been one of the best players in the league

That hand fight early did waller in I think…also the throw was pretty high. It takes a lot to get that call on the last play of the game and that just wasn’t enough.

Idk if they’ll be difficult to overcome yet but you certainly can’t give an injury excuse to only one team. elam playing due to injuries is just free yards and the defense has still looked pretty decent with Williams/Bernard they played a terrible offense that some of which was due to Daniel jones and some of which was due to not having their best offensive player until now. They had some other pretty big pieces return too not enough credit is being given to the giants front 7 imo just because their team is ‘bad’. Those guys were everywhere tonight. Best front 7 performance we’ve seen against us all year including the jets…I’m sure some was Daboll having the inside scoop though I don’t think there’s been a team in recent memory that has powered through key defensive player injuries better than the bills…the ravens are up there too we saw a few real high power offenses with our entire starting secondary injured last season and held up pretty well and we’ve got guys deep down the depth chart stepping up and playing pretty well this year too genuinely who looks Super Bowl worthy right now? Eagles and 49ers both looked mortal today, chiefs have been up and down, dolphins we’ve beat already

I mean idk how lucky it is the defense still has to get the stop…running saquon with one play to go in the half is a risk but it’s still a pretty high percentage play the uncalled pi was lucky ish I’d say but I think that was a bit of gamesmanship on tarons part knowing it was the last play of the game and it started as a handfight and they had just called one. I don’t think that flag gets thrown too often diggs got straight up tackled in the end zone down the stretch of the game against the bucs a few years ago and no call

They’d need to score a td to outright win rather than a td and a whole other play just to tie? Why should we just ignore that point? Lol

I don’t think Waller got the call cuz he had his hands on taron too…it was probably pi and if they didn’t get a questionable one a play earlier they probably would’ve called it

I don’t think I’ve ever seen two 50/50 pis called in a row leading to untimed downs in my life and I don’t think mahomes gets both those calls either I think that’s just as controversial if not more so than what actually ended up happening

Or you make that kick and the giants have to go 75 yards and score a td and an extra point just to tie…right decision bad result imo. Giants still had plenty of time to get down the field and one of your corners is kaiir elam

The jags were absolutely stacking the box because they knew our pass blocking couldn’t hold up long enough to attack deep. this week I was too nervous to get a good look at it and I’ll need to watch again 😂. We are also the best play action pass team in the league though which seems to be taken for granted. If you aren’t gonna run out of shotgun nobody is biting on pa out of shotgun. And if you’re running your whole offense under center, josh would’ve gotten absolutely abused the last few weeks.. he has frozen so many pass rushers coming free with stutter steps and every trick he’s got in his book and you’d lose a lot of that under center. I can understand the criticism but there’s been benefits of those plays too throughout the game

This extreme criticism of an OC when you’ve got guys dropping multiple critical wide open passes on third down every week and your offensive line can’t pass block to save their lives is still a little wild to me. Like I can’t fully wrap my head around it. Running under center was getting decent yardage but you’re always one stuffed run away from being behind the chains which also happened multiple times this game. every play caller in the league struggles in those conditions

Do only our opponents have injuries that matter?

Josh absolutely rescued this game…the pick was the giants baiting him into a slant because they knew his tendencies very well. some of those throws in the second half were pretty much impossible and he was hitting them with regularity That timeline lines up pretty well with when his offensive line turned into absolute Swiss cheese.

It’s truly baffling to me…look at what the jets did to Andy Reid and sirianni…if your oline is getting smoked the playbook gets very very small.

Let’s not act like it wasn’t a jailbreak on most of the plays though either 😂that was as dominated in the trenches as we’ve ever been the quick outs to diggs were to slow down the pressure

He’s been good honestly imo…then you’ve got more beef on the field to pass block without compromising anything because he’s as sure handed as anybody I agree I only think he’s gonna get better too

How do you expect him to patiently sit in the pocket in a game like this 😂 there literally was no pocket

I think the two losses look a little better honestly. Tonight was the only team we’ve played that currently has a losing record and they made some big time personnel changes and their head coach knows our offense/players very well and we just flew across the Atlantic twice in 7 days 😂. Kind of excuse train-y I know but it’s more to say I think we’re gonna right the ship than trying to excuse the play tonight

I respectfully disagree…josh Allen completely bailed the oline out in the second half imo. It was pretty close to the oline not even being on the field for most of those passing snaps. Three of those completions for first downs down the stretch were pretty close to impossible I think a lot of it was Daboll knowing a lot of our OLs tendencies

Shotgun run is def to set up the shotgun play action although it is absolutely debatable if it’s worth it at all though lol

I’m fine with keepin guys in to help if the pass blocking is gonna hold up lol but in the last two games it just hasn’t been doing that. some of tonight was def the giants having our ex oline coach id say…and the defense was well prepared on a few of those plays

Teams seem to do that against us to get in our heads…I’ve been noticing that the last few years. I’m pretty sure that big scrum was started because the giants d was starting to lose control of the game though and it was pretty brilliant

Oh yea diggs is not being kept around the LOS to chip so he’s got free reign…Davis/Kincaid/Knox have been doing it though at various times. I don’t think more consistency at the skill positions is coming until this offensive line can learn how to pick up stunts no matter who we bring in here.