Chaos

The manner of losing is pretty unique The bills have more famous late game losing failures than the rest of the NFL combined

It was not hindsight. It was a blunder to risk the turnover there. I said it before the play in shoutbox. Total coaching blunder

That play should have been run out of the shot gun. Allen can run for space, or throw it away and take a few seconds off the clock. two more times to take time off the clock, then take the safety.

Its coaching purgatory. He is better than half of the NFL Head Coaches. Just like Derek Carr has been better than than half of the QBs in the NFL most of his career.

The fact that this thread can be legitimately resurrected every couple of weeks is troubling. McDermott is a choker. And the entire team is starting to reflect its head coach.

Are you wishfully thinking that Allen is injured, and the Bill's notoriusly conservative medical staff has lost its mind?

you seem to miss the point. Allen at 80% is also better than Keenum at 100%. Injury risk is a binary decision. He either is at higher risk, or he is not. If it is higher risk, you don't put him in to sub.

Thank you for this super helpful reply.

Both losses this year can be fairly described as chokes. The 13 second debacle that ended last season is literally the NFL choke of all time. Its not just last week.

Xavier Rhodes elevated for Vikings game. Will he play? https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-announce-two-elevations-for-sunday-s-game-against-vikings

Line has moved back to -6.5

I think Allen will play. There is a small chance Barkley was not elevated because they did not want to risk moving anyone from the active roster, and that we will be going with Keenum starting and McKenzie as the backup

So you are saying if the Bills outscore the Vikings they have a chance to win the game?

NFL roster management is financial asset management. The question is how valuable is the roster compared to its cap cost. Everyone understands this when they discuss the advantage of having a high end QB on a rookie contract. Allen plays far above his cap cost. This is the main reason the Bills succeed. The Bills do not have many other players playing significantly above their cap cost (Elam, Benard, Rousseu come to mind as playing above their cost). Its not clear to me that the Bills have many other bargains on the roster. Positional decision making is part of the asset management. It should be noted that the Bills have more cap committed to the defense than any other NFL team. The defence should be expected to excel. (again Allen, allows the Bills to go cheap on the rest of offense)

Will we be getting an update each hour?

In a fact based world, the bolded part above is simply wrong. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/20/8072877/what-the-statistics-tell-us-about-the-draft-by-round

Not sure what we need to evaluate. This Bills roster with an average NFL QB, is an average NFL team. We already know that.

To Clarify. The Bills will not be winning the Super Bowl with Case Kennum playing QB. We could add Aarron Donald and Derrick Henry to the team and we still would not win with Case Keenum.

Betting dropped three points to Bills -3.5 on this news.

Disappointment requires expectations. The only person I expect to excel was Josh Allen. His recent blip is by far the most disappointing part of the season. Every other problem will be solved when Josh returns to form.

Could that throw have caused damage?

We learned what we already knew. Josh is the entire Bills team, offense and defense. We have invested more salary cap and draft picks on defense than any other NFL team. And we have used that investment to build a defense that works great when Allen puts incredible pressure on the other team, giving them the impression we will score on every drive. This makes the other teams play one-dimensionally and makes it easy on the offense. Because of the investment on defense in the salary cap, we don't have the types of weapons on offense that KC or the Dophins have. If Allen falters, no one is on offense to pick up the slack. Because the defense can only be great when defending a big lead, if Allen falters, the defense cannot reliablly control the game. Today's game ending drive was just the long drawn out painful version of 13 seconds.

This is certainly the longest and most in depth discussion of that skit in the world.

Is there any interest in betting on NCAA games among this group. Just looking for some Saturday entertainment. Any recommnedations?

When I read the thread title, I thought it meant Josh was going to play both ways this week.