Dukestreetking

Many good, interesting ideas here. But I'll go totally off-the-board and suggest putting Zimmer in as a big (and big speed) back. I mean, did you see the wheels on that guy chasing down the TH 70 yarder? Holy crap he's a frickin burner of a DT. (I'm kidding, kidding...on the run game piece)

Shaw: always a fan, that's a given. But the above: this was Homer-ic. Like it belongs in the Iliad or something. Anyway, thanks for your great season.

Uhhh, in case nobody else says it:@billsfan_1972, we will, in fact, miss you!

Interesting thought. I like him, esp his 2019 production (yes, I am clearly a football genius). At what number, and do you give up on Klein relative to that number? Also, will he be ready to make an impact upcoming season? My view and experience is that--though one can play earlier--it takes well over a year for "full" ACL recovery. So, I'm squeamish re knee injuries (except Thurman Thomas!) and have no great insight re above. Thank god we have exec o' yr to make these calls.

This. I know we're not pro GMs here, but every move bears a heavy risk-reward calculus/ trade-off. There are zero "no loss" decisions. Not impugning any particular person, but it seems we posters often forget this. That said, I favor grabbing T Hill, Watt (jr), and maybe K Mack this off-season. Damn, this s**t is easy.

See what I did there? I trumped your sarc w a double sarc.

I agree. Davis was the issue. He simply was too impaired. No doubt some very tough decisions given 3 hurt going in. So I agree w @Hapless Bills Fanthat coaches forced to make risk-reward calculus. Imo, they were 2 for 3 (B&B) on those choices, which ain't bad. Best example of issue: readily apparent Davis had no (physical) ability to catch the left corner end zone pass. Specifically, he could not perform that last two-step, hand-fight push, high-point explosion that the ball demanded.

I won't address KC game issues. Season and future decisions: we/Bills need to consider the full impact of SL's absence on D. Imv, the board--self included--underestimated his loss ("we get gashed every game", etc). I was never a big fan of his contract, but perhaps McBeane know their stuff. Logically speaking, what was the primary change in 20D vs 19D? No inside block eater. [Not saying we don't need some scheme adjustments or better edge, etc]

These are objective, fair points, esp amidst all this anguish. I'm a big Motor fan, but it's also fair to address the OP's "question", which I take to mean "disappointed w his season?" Imv, the only balanced answer is "yes". Clear improvement in pass pro, but no further/consistent development in speed and explosiveness, nor in route running. You know, fear inducing skills. I mean how many wheel routes or delayed goes did he have? I don't think many, and that was a scheme decision, so I assume coaches didn't see it in him. As for this game, I'll only note that Duke (I'm not a fan) got roasted for dropped balls v Texans, and they were contested. Motor's dropped screen (albeit not in end zone) was a costly mistake. Ready to dump him? No. But, again as a fan, it's best we keep our eyes wide open.

If it's any help @Rockee96, something I posted in "Thanks" thread: "I am hurt, but I am not slain; I'll lay me down and bleed a while, And then I'll rise and fight again. Fight on, men!" - Ballad of Sir Andrew Barton (via Marv Levy)

"I am hurt, but I am not slain; I'll lay me down and bleed a while, And then I'll rise and fight again. Fight on, men!"

Said last wk, and it must've worked: Talking done. Now let's pole-axe these m-fers, then put their heads on pikes!! Thank you for playing.

I was too nervous to even read the PGT. But then I realized that would break routine, and we'd be doomed. Doomed! So, pg 1, here I go. You're welcome everybody.

Those West Point boys don't f**k around.

I'll make a cardinal sin, and (partially) re-post from another thread. Dealt w today's LA Times article re JA, Firebaugh, working in the melon fields, etc: Thanks for posting @YoloinOhio. Shows Allen, no-kidding, had to work those fields, and so reader gets a tactile feel for his work ethic. Which leads me to...JA should change from pre-game Sinatra to the following: Working in the fields, til you get your back burned. Working 'neath the wheels, til you get your facts learned. Baby I got my facts, learned real good right now! (fr "Badlands")

This was THE "going outside the wire song" for the infantry. I was not one, but rode w them enough to have it etched deep in brain. Heart bpm up immediately! Dude, holy crap! You're killing me here. But, I guess if you're gonna go anyways, this might be a nice little path to the Great Beyond

Admittedly, I'm only on p94 (further comments up-thread?), but pull the trigger @Mango !! Don't know you, but you sound like just the man to provide good juju for the boys.

This is absolutely correct. Yes: I can say this 💯 true due to "insider" knowledge. Quick story: for 2 yrs, I was "public" as on-air expert for one of the Big 3 broadcast networks, NY hq. Won't say which cuz you'll look me up, then roast me for my makeup and live hits. Anyway, colleague and myself were the young(ish), just-been-on-the-ground, kind of analysts. The other major expert group was compromised of retired flag officers and an academic or two. Analogy: 1st group= today's youtubers, few analysts that care. 2nd group=typical nfl analyst, esp ex-players. We--the hungry ones--worked arses off w PAs, EPs, News Directors, anchor, etc. Not just for our personal on-air hits, but for any story on the subject, w/n unclassified boundaries, of course. Other group: ehhh, not so much. Stuff they pulled out their butts we couldn't believe! They felt their "access" to this or that senior official, or someone on JCS was all that was required. Needless to say, it was disgusting. But, the $ was ridiculous, and even that (very) small notoriety brought, well, pleasurable attention! ok, done w my rant.

Agree, in this sense: owners have multi-billion $ franchises, and they're (frequently) handing the keys to unproven, 20-something COOs. Amazing.

Social Distortion is freakin' awesome (in case anyone cares). Haven't listened for a minute... thanks for reminder.

On the prospect of meeting (and of course beating) Brady: A looming, throbbing schadenboner.

Thanks for posting @YoloinOhio. Shows Allen, no-kidding, had to work those fields, and so reader gets a tactile feel for his work ethic. Which leads me to...JA should change from pre-game Sinatra to the following:** Working in the fields, til you get your back burned. Working 'neath the wheels, til you get your facts learned. Baby I got my facts, learned real good right now! (fr "Badlands") *Flamers: I'm not a fan of lyric posting, to say the least...it's teen-ish, and I'm hitting 50! But, just this one time kids, dad gets to break his own rules. (Edit: pre-post, didn't see there was a whole thread on, basically, lyric posting!)

Haha is for "reanimated Krauthammer". Funny but w a whisper of cruelty. Nice. And I actually liked the guy. C'mon man, no other likes. Isn't anyone getting this stuff?

Cross-thread comments. Very clever; I no-kidding love it! It's, like, meta man.

I see what you did there. Well played.