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This forum is finicky. last year, I started a topic about Josh’s turnovers and said if he cuts them down, he’s probably the undisputed best QB in the league and we win more games. I got annihilated for even saying that. This season, he cuts them down, he wins MVP, and we get the closest to a SB appearance in his career. You just gotta let the takes fly and brave the slings and arrows. It’s because there’s two lines of thoughts. ”Brandon beane is good because he did X, Y, Z.” That’s fine but what is the definition of good? Someone agreeing with a move? Why do they agree? ”Brandon Beane is good because I would stack his resume against every current GM in the NFL and he would rank anywhere from 3 to 7.” there’s at least some comparison there and that makes it more valid to me Imo. i really just think 90% of the folks on the board don’t pay attention to the NFL at large and thus have no basis for comparison of what is “good” or “bad”

Fox Sports has him at 13 over the last 3 years on low volume targets.

Obviously Roseman is going nowhere. To me, it’s more a litmus test of if you know ball. If you feel really strongly that Brandon Beane is a better GM than Roseman, I just exclude your opinion entirely.

Howie Roseman won a Super Bowl with that bust QB lol what

Taron Johnson was targeted like Elam vs the Lions and Rams. He got cooked

What do you mean? Levi bounced around the league as a role player after being an UDFA. Tre lost his career with injuries and age. Dane got a decent contract in FA last year. Is the argument McD can’t coach up CB’s because his last 6 of them aren’t perennial All Pros scattered all over the league?

Covid only happened in Orchard Park?

Imagine thinking this is a defense for Beano

Howie wasn’t picking players the entire time he was there lol. Reid and Chip both had their moments where they were in charge of personnel.

We more than doubled Shakir’s targets and he had 200 more yards than last year. thats why he cost only 15. I think Beane would’ve been very happy for Shakir to have had 1400 yards instead.

Grigson and Pagano. Pagano was a better HC than Grigson was a GM but Grigson nailed the QB pick

Doesn’t that make it low key kind of worse?

If he was and was caught by the NFL, he’d be a bill by now

I’m not saying he sucks. I’m not even saying he’s overrated. I’m just saying he feels like the kind of playe that has a better value with the Chiefs than elsewhere but will be overpaid in FA.

Omenihu feels like the kind of Jag+ that gets a bigger deal, cut in 2 years then returns to KC. Jordan Phillips esque

Thank you for the answer. Do you think Josh won MVP in part BECAUSE he carried more than Goff or Lamar? aka Lamar and Goff had more talent than Allen did surrounding them?

Do you think another QB in the National Football League in 2024 carried their team more than Josh Allen did? This question scared off @Royale with Cheese because he knew it was a kill shot. Let’s see if you cower too.

Did Jared Goff carry the Lions more than Josh carried the Bills? point blank.

Yeah, Amari is successful by any measure. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s perfectly content with his whole career at this point. And honestly there’s nothing wrong with him making money, being very good at his job and calling it a career. It’s a different discussion about how good he could have been if it was more than a job to him, I lean that he could have been a HoFer but as an independent observer, I don’t care. That’s up to him and him alone.

Mack was #1 in snaps at WR lol. Goff has a great offensive supporting cast. the Bills clearly didn’t. That’s the whole point lol. And the Lions defense ravaged by injury was still better than the Bills. Are you trying to make my point for me? Do you think Goff or Lamar or whoever carried their team harder than Josh? Of course you don’t.

Mahomes had a great defense and had mediocre numbers. Allen had elite numbers throwing to Mack Hollins as his number 1 with a mediocre defense. Allen won MVP last year because no QB carried their team harder than he did. Everyone knows this. You are just afraid to take the next logical step that by definition, that means the team NEEDED TO BE CARRIED BECAUSE THEY ARENT THAT GOOD.

He didn’t win 13 games so no.

Or your QB wins MVP because he dragged a mediocre roster to 13 wins.

5 players in 7-8 years kinda makes the point lmao

Yes. They agreed to terms, he found out he was suspended and signed him after lol