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I really liked Hamler coming out. He was a sneaky WR target in the second that I wanted the Bills to get. All that being said, he has proven to be closer to a less durable Goodwin. It would be nice if he could carve out a decent career but he should be looked at like a lotto ticket at best

Beane also elevated McKenzie to replace Beasley. Is McK even in the league anymore?

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I hear ya. problem is difference making EDGEs rarely hit FA unless they are old or injured. I also think with these scrambling QB’s, and the way defenses move their EDGE players around, good RT’s are becoming more and more valuable. I’d also like some long term stability at one of the book end positions if Dawkins doesn’t finish his extension (which I suspect may be likely). 100% agreement in Rousseau. He’s closer to prime Shaq Lawson than a difference maker and that’s a player you let the Panthers overpay for in FA.

That’s a Broncos situation upcoming imo

Eesh that’s really sad for Kim. I didn’t realize the daughter’s husband got fired

Probably the TO’s. I think if you polled every single defensive background coach in the NFL and asked the one thing that is the most important for the offensive to do, it would be not turn it over. Not saying they are right or wrong, it’s just ingrained in their DNA. It’s why McKenzie and Cook were shown the bench everytime they let go of the football.

OSU Kyle McCord fan.

The big re-signing debate to come is Spencer Brown. we had to extend Dawkins for cap relief, so it will be interesting to see what Brown gets after last season. If he maintains that level of play and remains healthy, he may be the highest paid RT on the market next season. I think it’s between him and Rousseau for big money extensions, and imo I’d take Brown.

I hear you. I don’t think it’s malicious or anything, I think he ran the offense McD wanted. I think it’s just more proof that he will run what McD wants going forward.

I don't think history will look back kindly on the last 4 years of the Bills, just as we don't look back kindly on the 2012-2015 Colts.

we need to hire an OC whose already failed at being HC so we can keep him for 4+ years. McDaniels maybe

Some talking head somewhere said that Brady was basically trying to call the offense McD wanted for the last 8 weeks so he could get the job.

I'll bite. Josh has been at his best when they get him in rhythm early, and he has multiple quality receiving targets capable of getting open in the intermediate range of the field. You can watch highlights of his 2020 season, he is not launching bombs every game. Were they there sometimes? Yes. But he made his money with Diggs-to-Beasley progression on 12 to 18 yard throws. This is illustrated by his 2020 and 2021 seasons where his intended air yards/target were the two lowest of his career. And in 2020, playing in the intermediate range, his on-target percentage was the best of his career. Once Beasley fell off a cliff in 2021, Diggs was used more in the slot, and there hasn't been the two man game that made Josh so deadly in 2020 since. Gabe Davis was the inconsistent bomb deep threat you are looking for, and he was not a reliable target. Then the IOL and Dorsey were both disasters in 2022 and Josh slipped back into his old tendencies a bit as his WR group got worse every year. In summation, attacking the intermediate-middle of field is where most great QB's make their money. Josh used to be able to do that with an elite outside WR and a near elite slot WR. Just like Mahomes did with his elite outside WR and his elite slot/TE at a higher level (outside of that blistering bombs away 2018 season). If Josh gets those kind of weapons again, and an OC that doesn't get completely figured out by week 10 and not have a counter-punch, he will cruise again. The question that needs to be asked is, "how much influence does Joe Brady have today?" The answer, imo, is very little. Beane and McD are running the show. I have no doubts McD and Daboll butted heads over certain things which explains their chilly relationship, but I think he had a voice. I think Brady is closer to a sycophant when it comes to the big decisions.

guys https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/jets-wr-corey-davis-retirement-nfl

So desperate, we are chasing after dudes who are retired

Lots of folks saying “pay him,” but if your choice was Spencer Brown or Rousseau at $15M per season, I think I pick Brown.

Exactly my point. If you want to get past the modern dynasty, being the third or fourth best GM with significant weaknesses is NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

It’s like that pornography ruling. You know it when you see it.

I think a trade up was probably unrealistic. Coleman wasn’t my favorite either but whatever. I would’ve drafted another in the mid rounds.

I don’t think it’s a 1:1 when talking about TE’s or RB’s vs WR’s. Running backs are a proven bad investment with day 2 picks. That’s a terrible use of resources. Even TE’s are bad investments in the first. Brandon Beane has spent way more draft capital on TE’s and RB’s than WR’s in the last 4 seasons. That’s Stone Age strategy. The economy of the WR in the NFL has been exploding. RB’s are struggling to get signed to second contracts. That’s exactly the kind of thinking I’m talking about that’s a total fatal flaw. It’s like prioritizing OG’s over OT’s in the draft.

Cooper Kupp was a solid WR for years and then exploded as a triple crown winner with Stafford at QB. Then he battled some injuries and they brought in Nakua and he did great. thats a far different situation than adding Coleman and Samuel to Shakir. KC’s offense has been fine because Mahomes is great, but their offense is far less potent since trading Hill. Conversely, Miami’s offense exploded after adding Hill to pair with Waddle. It’s the talent. And we don’t have much proof we have it. Which was the point.

Mahomes is a better QB than Allen and Reid is a better coach than McD. Veach has struggled to replace the offensive weapons around Mahomes after the Hill trade but he has tried. He recognizes the problem and is trying to fix it. As we all know, no GM is perfect. Of course, he also built a great OL and a great defense as a consolation prize. Beane hasn’t recognized that problem. I would infinitely prefer him trying and failing to not recognizing it. That’s the true fatal flaw, imo.

We do agree that they have been a top 3 team, we don’t agree who deserves the lion’s share of that credit. I just think BB has some fatal flaws that will ultimately cost us in the end.