Simon

It happens. I've never seen it called on a trap. I've only seen it called on a guy who was lined up outside and was cracking back(even above the waist now). And in that case, it's getting called every time I see it.

He was definitely moving forward. Until he stopped and then lunged sideways and along the LOS into the defender. When he lunged into the block he was moving "parallel to his own end line".

Yeah, it's mind-blowing to me how some of you can't see the obvious. And I already made the Frank Wychek joke earlier but I'm not sure anybody got it 🤷‍♂️

The key is you cant "initiate" "forcible" contact with your shoulder, forearm, helmet, etc. You can get in his way, you can ride him, you can redirect him you can go down in a tangle of legs with him, but if you pop a guy coming across the field you are going to get flagged. The reason the rule now exists is that it's a treacherous area as far as taking concussions (whether its the actual contact, hitting the turf or even the whiplash)

Before, you were just wrong about a call that they have been making consistently for two years. Suggesting there is no risk of injury in that scenario has taken you into a stratosphere about which I will reserve comment. Permanently. Enjoy the season.

He was until he came to a dead stop and then used his shoulder to lunge into the defender parallel to the LOS. That was the point where it became a penalty. Yeah I thought the Ford call was horsespit as Ford did not initiate any forcible contact regardless of angle.

Absolutely.

I disagree. He didn't jack him up like he could have but I still thought he threw a shoulder in there

Holy attack mode! And did Josh and John Brown jsut share a toke and a shot? - )

youre not allowed to initiate forcible contact any more; the shoulder is even written into the rule

He threw a shoulder at him

very cool for a 24yr old kid

might have hit the gorund depends on whether the ball moved nevermind: great catch and nice throw under pressure on the move

y'all a bunch of chicken littles....

thats what happens when you let ed oliver play on 1st down

little tight on offense somebody needs to make a fart joke in the huddle

right at wallace on 4th down way to spark the stand Oliver

Yeah, he hitches sometimes when he looks into the backfield Hes got to run through that or it fouls the timing

Thats the second time Diggs has left a big play on the field because he didn't finish through on his route

He's been a problem since Day 1.

I dont have any replay capability I thought it was a penalty while the play was live. I also thought the LB got hooked on the edge and was actually looking for two flags

If he just stands there it won't get called but you cannot put a shoulder into him And if it was forward, it was about as forward as Frank Wychek pass.

Its all about protecting guys heads and that's a wicked situation in regards to getting concussed by an opponent, the turf or whiplash

Solomon Thomas on the gorund holding a knee too 😮

"**** miami"?