Simon

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own Sometimes we visit your country and live in your home Sometimes we ride on your horses Sometimes we walk alone Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own

Reply all you want. Watching you complain about talking about it while you're.... wait for it...... talking about it, is sort of entertaining

You're the one that chose to open the thread. And then take the time to comment. Twice. Geebus...

Did you ever record a game and then voluntarily click on a thread that says "NHL" in the title and then blame your foolishness on somebody else ? - )

My perception is based on what I have seen with my eyes over 50+ years on this planet. And I'm sorry if you consider this perception unfavorable (there's no "u" in that word, Tommy:-), but I don't attach any negative connotation to it. If anything, I'd view a tendency toward less physical aggression as a positive human characteristic.

Good luck, Dylan!

lol, nice......

It's an interesting study but that range of error (3.3–5.1) is significant. The more I think about it the more I wonder if it's even quantifiable.

I think it's hard to exchange ideas about this stuff sometimes because generations of trying to homogenize our culture have put us in a mindset where we are almost wired to view differences as a negative and we tend to make assumptions about where people who disagree about those differences are coming from. Hell, I would submit that a tendency toward less physical aggressiveness is a positive human characteristic, if anything. That's probably where any disconnect was as I was indeed considering the latter. And the visual stimuli I was thinking of was more along the lines of fighting than **cking. A fair point, but the question of how and why those places became more accepting in the first place is also worth considering. I'd be careful about taking that 33% figure as fact for the very reasons you stated in your previous sentence. I actually have multiple times and then typically end up getting rag-dolled as the party crew I run with has several gay twenty-something sons who are 6'5" - 6'11", can really move and love to initiate spontaneous midnight dance parties on the deck. If those kids weren't so sweet I'd be scared to death of them.

I'm not aware of that and it would surprise me. Although here's a study from an institution that is well-regarded as fairly reliable and authoritative that does not support that claim. Gay Men and Lesbians in the U.S. Military A summary snippet: Using the mid-point estimate that 3 percent of women and 4 percent of men are gay or lesbian among adults in the general population, the findings shown in table 2 suggest that 1.8 percent of active duty personnel are gay or lesbian, meaning that nearly 26,000 gay men and lesbians are serving on active duty. The proportion of lesbians among active duty female personnel is approximately four times higher than the proportion of gay men among male personnel, regardless of the assumptions about prevalence in the population. The mid-range estimate of the proportion of lesbians among women serving on active duty is 5.2 percent while the comparable figure for gay men is 1.2 percent. These estimates imply that more than 11,000 lesbians and 14,500 gay men are currently serving in active duty. Of course there's many homosexual men that enjoy banging heads. But I don't think it's wild speculation to suggest that gay men trend toward less physically aggressive tendencies. If I were to suggest that most men tend to be taller than most women, the fact that many tall women exist doesn't invalidate the observation.

I'm sure there's some folks who have used imaging tools on brain responses to visual stimuli among people of varying sexual orientations, but considering how marginalized that community has been across most global cultures, I'd wonder how much funding is readily available for that kind of research. Although I'd think that we're currently moving through the kind of cultural advance that might make it more accessible.

Or maybe it's others who are colorblind and you're just fine ? - )

Just because it differs from yours doesn't make it wrong. It's just a perception. Objectively, I doubt there's been any conclusive research done that would make either of us know whether we're right or wrong.

Sorry, but a bunch of people buying jerseys in the midst of a media frenzy doesn't change my perception that there is something biologically that generally makes heterosexual men more physically aggressive than gay men. By extension, I think this would suggest that there is likely a somewhat lower percentage of gay men hitting people for a living than there is gay men among the general population.

Are we still doing phrasing?

I edited and added to the original post, but I meant I thought Poyer was the best player on the Bills D last year.

Yup. If they had been willing to work outside the box and take a chance on it earlier, I think he'd have been an effective offensive player his entire career.

imo, Poyer was probably the best player on the Bills defense last year. And that's coming from a guy who had never been very high on him previously.

No data for that could possibly exist. But of the 8-10 gay men I know, not a single one of them has ever showed the slightest interest in any sport. I don't think it's pejorative to suggest that gay men are less interested in football or any other sport. It just seems like a general observation that holds up more often than not.

Ooooh, a list

At the risk of insulting usually reasonable people, his detractors have no clue what the hell they're actually looking at

And I don't think it's just the opportunities for more singe blocking that are going to help him, but he's also likely to be fresher and less beat up throughout the year. Taking on doubles is a grind and even though he actually managed to beat a fair amount of them, winning against two guys burns up a crazy amount of energy. The less often he has to totally sell out to beat two blockers, the more often he's going to have some extra jump on downs where there's plays to made.

"on the Bills defensive front" Yes ; - )

He already has. He was the best player on the Bills defensive front last year and it wasn't really close.