Mikie2times

Totally disagree with this. This shows first downs, yards, and yards per play for yesterdays game along with our last 3 playoff losses. If you have any idea based on that which games we crucified McD for and the one we are now celebrating, more power to you. We played a great first half then went onto put out a mirror image of the Texans playoff loss in the 2nd half. Tight on offense with the defense falling apart. Massive win for us, but as I have said in previous threads, not really sure how you say, great Scott! it is all different now! We can play playoff defense!

They get credit, but they're high variance events. Do we win the turnover battle 3-0 if we played again? Likely not. Do we win if we don't win the turnover battle 3-0? Likely not. Does that matter? Not in this game, we won, move on. Could it matter in forecasting future performance, sure.

The point is can we play at a level without turnovers to win games like this? I would argue no, but maybe it doesn’t matter. This team is likely going to keep protecting the ball and we can usually get a couple to go our way. Sort of a McD calling card. The Carolina defense he had in the Super Bowl did eventually come up dry and they lost. If you want to live and die with turnovers it’s going to be a bumpy road usually. But here we are, only two games left, this team isn’t perfect, defense is a big issue, but it doesn’t really matter at this point. Just win baby.

The offense makes us different for sure. As you said, the run game like this is just not something we have handsome those Bills teams in the 90s. If you throw out the Ken Dorsey offense the last few years we don’t win this game. It’s that simple.

Agree, this was actually nearly a carbon copy of the Houston game in 2019. A lot could have happened yesterday where this ends up being one of our all time losses. It didn’t. We pulled it out and I agree, we seem to shape up well with KC/going forward. I think the offense is pretty clearly better. We are pretty clearly better in the +\- area. Those are big things to be different in, but we just had the breaks go our way this time when in the past they didn’t. I would say that’s more some randomness with the football gods vs some clear black and white change.

If Andrew’s doesn’t fumble and if that catch for two is made, we are probably at less than 50% as far as win expectancy. It might not be fully on him but he certainly played as large a role for a non QB in a loss in some time.

From my view, you go up 8, if they score AND get the two point conversion, then you still likely have a potential FG drive unless they score with no time. Then you have OT with the TD rule. So the outs just keep going in that spot and so it made sense. If it was just to go up 7 maybe you really have a decision, but I don’t think it was a decision going up 8.

Some of us young muscular studs understand it as well. I don't know where those people are, but I imagine a few of them get it.

I'm actually rather happy my dude. It was a huge win. Only two more. I have no hair, that's why I'm so F'n miserable.

I think it would be a bit absurd to say whoever loses the turnover battle in a single event is somehow better or worse. We have a high propensity for generating turnovers. It is part of the McD way. It's still a fairly volatile outcome over the long term. You would like to be able to be good enough to win without turnovers. I don't believe we would have been good enough today. We have some holes and our defense looked very playoff like in the 2nd half. But at the end of the day we have 2 more games. We match up decent with KC and I would roll the dice with any NFC team. So pretty incredible, we have a legit shot even in not being perfect.

Having fun. I don't disagree. Winning, is in fact a thing, no doubt.

Why does it feel like this is your nightly affirmation

It was largely same old, same old on defense. First half game plan was excellent, but we offered no resistance in the 2nd half. It is what it is at this point. This team really protects the ball and McD's defenses have always been + at turnovers. I don't think the turnover thing is random for us. Lord help us if it ever goes against us, but I think we will be + more often than not in that area.

It accurate, probably closes at -2

I don’t know that I saw anything today that was incredibly different than the past on defense. It was a huge win. We allowed about the same level of production we have been in the past but we got the turnovers and the drop. First half game plan was really good. Especially in shutting the run game down. Ravens looked like they ran out of time.

Curious how people view this one with his legacy. I was hoping to get something a little more definitive . On one hand, we did a really good job taking away the run early. On another, we allowed 25 with 3 turnovers. Nearly 7 yards a play again, it seemed like they could do whatever they wanted in the 2nd half. I will lay off him until this run is over. But it was the type of win where it feels like we really didn’t learn a lot more and I thought we would going in.

We had one f’in dude to get that. wow, next week, let’s f’in go

With the two pointer with it I’m good with it. If it was 7 I say go.

Good with the kick

Hollins is starting to mess with them

3-0 turnovers. Again! It’s like the Patriots

I keep saying these turnover aren’t sustainable, but just two more. Come on now. Unreal.

Holy

I wish they got rid of that play

They will go for this