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Ever notice the how the pro McD posters are so intolerant of other opinions they go to personal insults? They can’t just talk about the subject. Not just you, several of you. It sort of speaks a little deeper to the quality of these posters and the opinions they have.

And he could blow out his knee next year or miss several games. Sometimes that extra year of information is worth waiting for. This is the pitfall of the extend early to save mantra we live and die by.

I don’t like locking up another B player in a critical position. MLB can be a monster in this system. He’s good, the value is good, but this is now the ceiling at MLB and I think B players being the ceiling are the heart of this teams issues.

Actual player recognition, via pro bowl and all pro voting doesn’t align with this. We don’t have another player in the top 100 as of last year. A few could crack it in 2025. Average winning %’s of teams with exceptional QB play supports our record independently of other variables. Those teams post +65% winning %’s historically. Claiming all of it is excellent is just as off base as all of it sucks. It can’t be all good and it can’t be all bad. If I had to actually be balanced here, I would discredit the roster more than McD at this point. B coach, with a C+ roster, and Josh easily lands us where we are in this deplorable division. We have had more talent in other years but last year it was league average at best outside of Allen. Our defensive data aligns with that and if you remove Allen with a replacement level QB what exactly do you think the offense would do? Would it rank in the top 15? Seems like a stretch….: McD does a great job developing turnover battle winning squads. He is a good leader. That’s enough to get him a B grade even if I’m not a fan of the rest of it. But even with McD, is he not a meddling .500 guy without Josh? (he is actually under .500 without Josh FYI) So while I know all of you try to separate Allen from this and give everybody flowers like these are 8 year olds needing a trophy, the reality is our success is very top heavy with Josh. Which is why it never lasts very long in the postseason. He covers so many warts it’s hard to fully compute.

I think it’s time to draft one. If Allen goes down for the year it’s over, but it would be a huge mistake to not get us a guy that can keep our playoff hopes protected for 8 games or so or if we needed him for a critical game. Allen’s durability has been all time good, but so was Brady’s, until that one year when it wasn’t.

I posted in the other thread I thought this might happen. I don’t think Von wants to switch teams at this stage in his career. He wants one more Super Bowl. I think he knows he can do a lot for his legacy, especially in WNY, with a championship. Not to mention, guys going to be fully healed. Obviously he’s going to lose impact at his age but he could flash more than in 24, especially with low reps in high leverage moments. Maybe we see a bit more of that bend. Players like him and he seems to be a good talent recruiter / well connected. He also seems to mentor our younger pass rushers which is very valuable. If we can make the numbers work we would be dumb not to do it.

Ya, I want Garrett as well but I agree with this. It’s probably in the range of 80% we get none of them. If we can get any of them you do whatever it takes. Happy to go with a 2nd here as well if that closes the deal.

Just read a story that they want a #1 and #3. Will never happen. Wont even get the #1 I don’t think.

I swear his supporters would argue if he shat himself it was a result of a greater plan. Leave it to the conspiracy theorists to divert from what can pretty easily be seen as Occam's razor. Trump likes control and attention. Tariffs provide that. No long game, not anymore complicated, not chess, not even checkers.

It's rather humorous how sensitive the church of McD is.

Anything near 20 million and you would have to say we think he’s a top 3-5 player on our roster long term. If that’s the case, I would say our rosters not good enough.

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You say now they aren't Singletary or Moss, but we don't know what they will become. Cook is what you hope Henderson or Hampton can become, but he already is that player. With almost no wear on the tread in college. Most would have conceded 10 million to Cook, is 5 additional million / the equivalent of one additional quality starter, worth the money? Basically, is it worth 5 million dollars to go from replacement level at RB (all that you can count on as a rookie) to Pro Bowl level at RB? To me, as painful as it is, the answer is yes. I just hope the deal is reasonably short.

A larger drop off exists between Cook and Singletary/Moss types vs Cook and Barkley. To think we can just get that from a rookie is really stretching. He's one of the better backs in the NFL. Those guys are some of the better backs in college. Big difference even if some day they do end up doing well.

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Thank you. This is insanity. We want this problem at times.

Well clearly everybody can bust. I like plenty of players, but I don't like either of these. I put $500 in the offseason on Daniels winning ROY. So that's what we do, we guess who we think will or won't work out. Sometimes we bet, sometimes we talk on here. I do not think these two will work out. If they do we can come back to this and I will eat my pie. I think Ward is in major bust territory. We will see.

He is turnover prone, bad decision prone, if you show me 100 QB's with more INT's per game it will not replace the fact that he is turnover prone and bas decision prone. The entire hype train that was Miami football was a complete sham. Ward beat up on paper tigers until they eventually lost 3 of 4 to end the year. Who was the best defense he faced all year last season? Duke? What a joke. They should have lost to downright average ACC teams in VT and CAL which would have put the Miami where it belonged, which is nowhere. His Heisman campaign just like the Hurricanes was sham. It fell apart when people saw it for what it was. He will be a bust, you don't seem to agree. Got it. Also not a huge fan of Sanders so I'm not that high on either one.

I watched him plenty of times. Very poor decision making. Comparing to Allen really isn't close and was Miami any good or was the ACC just that awful?

And they're in the Garret sweepstakes This is a bit of a better look. This is the actual 2025 cap hit. We have 20 million+ on Allen vs Hurts, 20+ million in Von, Knox makes double what they pay DeVonta Smith. Considering some of the dead cap that isn't listed here, comparing our cap hits with the champs sort of shows why we aren't. We have all sort of bad usage comparatively speaking.

A kid who is turnover prone in college. Built his reputation in the Pac 10 and ACC. I don't like either of the top QB's to be honest.

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Rob Johnson could have played worse in the Titans game? I have to think Flutie upgrades QB to some extent. Even if it's with his mobility. Johnson took 6 sacks in that game.