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6 minutes ago, mannc said:
You’re right about Pardons. Harris will be lucky to go day 2. Too slow.
Harris is the best back in this class by a wide margin. I can’t tell if you’re being serious or hyperbolic, but if you’re serious you need to do more work on him. It ain’t all about speed.
19 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:Would you care to make a friendly wager on this? I will bet the Falcons keep the pick and take Pitts.
You got it.
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18 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:
ZEROVOLTZ Mock draft 3.0 ....you might ask how this could be 3.0 if this is the first one I've posted......the answer is, this is my 3rd complete from scratch one that I've done...and for me to keep straight what I posted, it's 3.0 even though its the first and probalby only one I'll post here. Thanks Gunner for letting me use this space to post. I look forward to the comments....etc.... I think you'll find this mock to be a bit on the wild side...I believe the media doesn't have a good grasp of this draft at all....explanations with each pick.....I got through pick 40.....for a reason.
Some highlights. Parsons falls. The 4th and 5ht Qb's aren't as hot as many think. Teams put off OT because they can get one later. ...and as you'll see the Bills trade back.
1. Jaguars. QB Trevor Lawrence
No explanation really needed here. The Jags are taking Lawrence and the second they controlled this pick, he was it. They have sold a ton of season tickets based on the idea this is the pick. It's a lock.
2. Jets. QB Zach Wilson
The Jets have zeroed in on Wilson...it's been a foregone conclusion for a while now that he is the pick here.
3. 49ers. QB Justin Fields
In my other mock drafts I at first had Mac Jones here...but within a very short time I had changed my thinking to Fields.....SF didn't expend this much draft capital for A) an immobile, bland, system qB in Jones....and I also doubt they spent it for a quantity as random and unkown as Lance. Fields is the embodiment of the most recent stars....QB's who are pass first, big armed, good from the pocket first types, but who CAN run. Think Mahomes, Allen, Rogers....Shanahan has hinted this is the type of QB he'd prefer in the past.
4. Falcons. TE Kyle Pitts
I DO NOT believe the Falcons are in the QB market....and despite alot of hype, I don't think Mac Jones or Trey Lance are the kind of prospects a team moves up to 4 to get. The Falcons restructured Ryan and he still has alot of good football left...they stil have Julio and Ridley....I just don't see this as a team that is at the point where you tear it down. Pitts looks like the kind of TE that makes a difference. It's traditionally kind of high for a TE, but he's the rare freak of nature prospect you can take here.
5. Bengals. WR Ja'Marr Chase
Many mocks have Penei Sewell here. That's understandable. Here is my logic here. Chase is a major WR prospect. They need to replace AJ Greens 110 targets. Chase has a relationship with Burrow.....AND.....this is the kicker....this is one of the deepest OT drafts to come along in a very long time. There will be some starting caliber OT availbe in round 2. There is NOT a Chase level WR to be had in round 2....this is a deep WR draft class...but a good many of them are slot types. The Bengals opt for the weapon and will wait to address O line later.
6. Dolphins. WR Jaylen Waddle
The Dolphins would be good with Pitts, Waddle, Chase, or Smith here. Chase and Pitts are gone...so the pick here is Waddle...the guy with the juice. He's not big but super fast...dynamic playmaker....the kind of guy who can take a short TUA pass and make soemthing of it. Tua was 31 out of 31 qualifying QB's in accuracy on intermediate passes....this guy is able to help at what TUA does better...short stuff.
7. Lions. OT Penei Sewell
Even though I believe the Lions could use a QB here, like Lance, who they'd have time to develop...the new GM is the guy who drafted Goff...and the new coach is a culture change guy and he wasts the Lions to be tough SOBs. Sewell fits that mold....and fills a need.
8. Panthers. OT Rashawn Slater
Many people are thinking this is a spot ideal for a team looking to trade up for a QB. I continue to beleive that after the top 3 QB's are off the board....Mac Jones and Lance...aren't as well regarded by teams as they are by the media....and the Panthers got their QB...for now as well....they have a glaring hole at OT. No trade partner...they go OT.
9. Broncos. CB Jaycee Horn
There are a good number of national media projecting Denver to trade up or stay at 9 and take a QB. They are NOT. Denver brought in a new GM, but retained the current coaching staff, giving them essentially an ultimatum to win now. The new GM would likely not want to draft a QB at 9, that his win now coaching staff won't want anything to do with. The current staff isn't exactly ideal for developing a QB even if they were inclined to do so..Vic Fangio is a d minded HC...when he was hired the Broncos, at Fangios urging, signed Joe Flacco...he wanted a vet QB that could run their PA attack....Drew Lock was an afterthought....now in a win now year, Fangio will roll with Lock, and they will draft a win now player. If Parsons didn't have the red flag charachter issues...I think they might go with him...but CB is a need as they have guys on one year contracts and you can't have enough good CB's as it is. Between Horn and Surtain....Horn is the better ZONE player...and that is what Fangio runs.
10. Cowboys CB Patrick Surtain II
One of the easiest matches to figure here...the Cowboys have a need at CB..they like Surtain...
11. Giants EDGE Jaelan Phillips
Dave Gettleman is an old school kind of guy who likes linemen. The Giants pass rush sucked last year. Phillips is a guy that can come in and start, and possibly be that missing piece the Giants covet.
12. Eagles. WR DeVonta Smith
Similar to the Cowboys....Eagles have a big need....and Smith is here....no need to over think it.
13. Chargers. OT Christian Darrisaw
The Chargers are going to do all they can in this draft to build a wall in front of Justin Herbert....Darrisaw is the protypical LT they are looking for of the guys remaining...some are higher on Teven Jenkins....Darrisaw is the better bet to be successful as a LT.
14. Vikings, IOL Alijah Vera-Tucker
Again....what might be considered a prime spot to get ahead of New England for a QB....no takers. The Vikings would probably have prefered an OT here....and would consider Jenkins, but go instead with the bigger need and bonafide interior lineman.
15. ***TRADE*** Washington FT QB Trey Lance
In a surprise move, the Patriots....thought to be looking for a QB...trade back to 19 and the FT comes up to get their QBOTF in Lance. Football team wanted to insure they got ahead of the Bears here.
16. Cardinals CB Greg Newsome II
With the departure of Patrick Petersen...and no other real stars or players on the roster to replace him...the Cardinals take Greg Newsome here.....
17. Radiers OL Teven Jenkins
The Raiders are a hot mess....and more than any other spot...they need O linemen...Jenkins played all over the line except C....he'll start somewhere on the the Radiers line immedeately.
18. Dolphins EDGE Azeez Ojulari
The Dolphins just continue to add high end players with all their AMMO....and Ojulari is another one....and again...there is always a need for edge rushers....
19. *** TRADE *** Patriots moved back from 15 with WFT. Patroit select... LB Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah
Belichick just turned 69 years old. I am inclined to believe that he isn't interested in trying to develop a young QB at this point. They loaded up the roster to run a double TE, power run, RPO type offense with Cam. Belichick adds some draft capital and still gets the guy he's wanted all along.
20. Bears. QB Mac Jones
Somehow, Ryan Pace and Nagy still have jobs. They apparently are going to be given another shot at finding a QB.....Mac Jones does have alot of the traits the Bears are looking for in a QB....and while there are other needs.....the staff knows without a QB they are toast...Jones represents their only chance at redemption.
21. Colts. IDL Christian Barmore
The Colts have a need at DL....and while I don't like drafting for need....this is a week IDL class, and Barmore is the cream of a weak crop. The Colts need a low lost answer here....and Barmore is it. They do have a big need at OT as well...but again, as suggest earlier....this is a deep OT draft...the Colts will find one later.
22. Titans. WR Kadarius Toney
The need at WR is obvious, but I think some will be surprised that Toney is the pick here....the media isn't high enough on Toney...a track star...he can stretch a defense...and can be effectively deployed on sweeps and reverses, shuttle passes etc. The most dynamic weapon of the options here.
23. Jets. RB Travis Ettiene
The Jets could go a number of directions here...but opt for a weapon that is multi dimensional out of the backfield....wouldn't be surprising if the Jets considered a DB here...but ultimately, they will rely on new Coach Selah to shape up the D, and will get the new QB and offense some weapons I think.
24. Steelers CB Caleb Farley
The Steelers spring to the table to draft Farley...a big, physical, do it all, ball skills, whole package CB...they like....injury red flag allows this guy to fall here and the Steelers are more than happy to take the risk. Something of note...they need OT here pretty bad....even IOL....but the Steelers historically just don't spend high draft pickst on OT....and rarely on IOL. That continues here.
25. Jaguars S Travis Meohrig
Not much to say here other than....Jags have needs in their defensive backfield and Moerhig is a fit. RT is a need, but once again....beign a deep draft at OT, a RT can be found later.
26. Browns EDGE Kity Paye
Cleveland is delighted to get Paye here....they are stacking up alot of talent on the defense. They need pass rush help beyond Myles Garrett
27. Ravens. EDGE Jason Oweh
The Ravens lost Matt Judon and NEED pass rushers in the worst way...the go with Oweh here....the man with no sacks..but the physical traits that say he should....
28. Saints. CB Eric Stokes
Big need....and Stokes fits. Being cap strapped as they are....Saints could use some other help at WR, and maybe Edge or LB...but biggest need is at CB.
29. Packers. OT Liam Eichenberg.
Packers have a need at OT....Eichenberg is a very Packers esque lineman....not the most impressive or imposing physical specimen....he is technically sound...and not prone to mistakes....very refined. smart. Not going to be much help for a team that runs screens etc...but the Packers aren't that kind of team. He can play left or right....
30 BUFFALO BILLS ***TRADE*** .....the Denver Broncos Move up here to select.... LB Zaven Collins.
The Broncos need a dynamic, do it all LB to really finish off their D. They considered it way up at pick 9...but opted for a more surefire player in Horn. Now they get their LB. The broncos are in win now mode and they are loading up. The Bills pick up some capital to move out of 30....I believe the players who will remain on the board at 40, suite the Bills well...and at better value than here at 30.
31. Chiefs EDGE Ronnie Perkins
Most mocks have KC going with an OT here...some I have seen have Eichenberg...some with Leatherwood (not a fit) and I have seen some with KC taking an edge...Jason Oweh usually...but I have him already taken in this mock. I think Perkins is a guy the media isn't up to speed on and that pro teams have him ranked higher than media does. The Chiefs get a guy big enough to play on the edge, but who will need to learn gap discipline.....beyond that..he's got juice and high motor to get after the QB and wreck the backfield.
32. Buccs EDGE Gregory Rousseau
the Buccs are pretty loaded.....and have the luxury of going for something of a luxury...another pass rusher.
ROUND 2
33. Jags WR Terrace Marshall
Talented WR.....Jags loading up for Lawrence.
34. Jets LB Micah Parsons
Finally, Parsons goes after a big fall....the Jets will gamble that HC Saleh and staff can keep Parsons out of trouble and help him grow up. He's a major talent....lack of experience in coverage also a reason for this drop.
35. Falcons LB Jamin Davis
Maybe not at the top of the list of needs, but Davis too good to pass here....dynamic do it all LB.
36. Dolphins RB Najee Harris
Loading up on yet more of the Alabama offense.....RB here for the Dolphins...amazing the roster they've turned over in the past couple years.
37. Eagles LB Nick Bolton
Dynamic LB are having a run here at the top of round 2.
38. Bengals OT Samuel Cosmi
Bengals took Chase in round 1, and land a starting caliber OT here in round 2.
39. Panthers WR Rashod Bateman
The Panters let Samuel Curtis walk this offseason...and do have a need at WR...they are stoked when Batemen falls to them here.
40 ***BUFFALO BILLS*** Having traded back with Denver...the Bills select RB Javonte Williams.
Hear me out Bills fans....Williams is a physical back....who is a 3 down player....who excells in pass protection....and is known for broken tackles....he reminds me a ton of Steven Jackson. He could do A LOT...to help the Bills already high powered offense...be less one dimensional, and give them a guy that stays on the field all 3 downs, that does it ALL. I could not think of a player the Bills could add, who could do more to help NOW than this guy. (I am sure there are going to be a ton of you who don't agree)
The falcons have all but flat-out admitted they’re trading #4 to the highest bidder.
Parsons might fall a little bit, absolutely no way he falls that far. Ditto for Najee.
I can get wanting to have different takes but these are... somethin else.
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7 minutes ago, Bakin said:
Don’t get me wrong - I LOVE the draft. Always have. Always felt like the team needed me to mock really well! I needed to be on top of all the prospects and team needs, etc...
This year, I have so much faith in Beane that I don’t even know what day the draft is.
First time I can remember.
Not sure if I’m the only diehard psycho who feels this way. Maybe it’s the stupid covid?
Might want to get checked out. This sounds serious... PLEASE consult a professional. Draft disinterest is no laughing matter.
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Just now, mannc said:
Brown would hardly be a reach at 30. Guy averaged over 20 YPC and 1050 yards the last two seasons and his measurables are very good...Why would the Bills trade back? They don’t need more picks...and Beane has never traded back.
Brown wouldn’t, arguably. WR would.
College stats don’t matter even a little bit. Again, I like him.
The bills would trade back for the same reason any team ever trades back? Adding more players and adding more draft picks are different things. If there’s not a standout *best* pick on the board, you can trade down to add to your ability to move around later and still get a player you like equally.
Beane having never traded back does mean it can’t happen. (I also included trading up as a potentiality.)
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6 minutes ago, mannc said:
I wouldn't cry if the Bills took Brown at 30...
I might.. not because it's a bad pick but would feel a little forced. If the draft falls like most are expecting it to I think we're a near lock to be moving up or back. In the event we move back, could certainly do a lot worse than Brown for sure.
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4 minutes ago, mannc said:
With the 54th pick in the TSW mock draft, the Indianapolis Colts select Dyami Brown, WR, University of North Carolina. This is a run-to-the-podium selection for the Colts. Brown would have been our pick at 21 if Caleb Farley had not somehow have been available. Brown has size, speed and after the catch ability that will help Carson Wentz regain his confidence (we hope).
The NY Football Giants and @Don't Stop Billeiving are on the clock.
was 2nd on my list had I traded down or if Browning wasn't there.
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@VirgilI read the draft board wrong, it's actually The Colts and @mannc who are on the clock. Edited my post, but you might want to edit the title too...
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Just now, NewEra said:
Love the Murray/Browning pairing at LB
Me too. Bosa on the outside, James coming down in the box... there's a TON you could do with that defense. Would be really fun to watch.
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With attempts to move back a second time rendered futile, the pick is in!
With the 53rd pick in the 2nd, 2021 TSW Mock Draft, the Los Angeles SuperChargers select Baron Browning, weapon, THE Ohio State University. The Colts @mannc are on the clock.
The Chargers are no strangers to moving players around on defense to exploit mismatches, and Browning is an ideal piece to do that with. Though he doesn't necessarily fit one specific needs perfectly, his versatility will add depth and talent across all 4 LB positions, making this too good of a value to pass up.
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Chargers listening to offers again if any are interested...
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9 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Well, that depends on how good Mond turns out to be. If he’s better than Hurts and turns out to be their starter for the next 10 years than I can’t see how it would be bad. It might make the 2021 situation worse, but in the scheme of building a franchise, who give a ****? It’s one season. A season in which they have little to no chance to win a SB. Finding a qb = #1 priority. Give Hurts some competition and force him to step his game up. If one 2nd rd pick is going to keep him from becoming the best he can be, than he’s already not the answer
Agreed. I just see no sense in continually drafting middling QBs that might be something -- especially when you're trading out of a position to get one of the top guys that feel a lot more likely than "might"...
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10 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Good point. I forgot about Mond. That a possibility I suppose. Even if they draft Mond, Hurts is still likely to be the unquestioned starter (to open the season at least)
To me, a pick like Mond actually makes the situation worse -- it's throwing good money after bad. Unless somebody just absolutely believes in him (and for whatever reason ALSO is really out on Hurts), that's not really going to "fix" things. If anything, it's spending a 2nd round pick on a guy who's probably -- at best -- a similar player with less understanding of the offense, less chemistry with the OL/WRs/staff. While at the same time causing confidence issues with Hurts. And none of that even accounts for the opportunity cost of not being able to improve the roster elsewhere with that high 2nd rd pick.
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1 minute ago, NewEra said:
Do you think they’re going to draft a qB in round 1? If they don’t draft a QB in rd 1, they’ll be going with hurts. I’d be shocked if they draft a Qb in rd 1 after trading down. Kyle Trask in rd 2 isn’t going to beat Hurts out imo
Right. And they traded out of their top 10 pick to boot. They're rolling with Hurts.
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WE HAVE A TRADE!!!!!!
The Los Angeles Chargers agree to trade #47 and #118 to the Tennessee Titans in exchange for picks #53 and #100.
The Tennessee Titans @bkep32 are now on the clock...
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28 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:
Reyes would be eligible in the international program, wouldn't he ?
If so that's a solid signing by the WTF.
I have no idea, but you'd think so? Would allow them to keep him on the active roster (protect him from poaching) for a year at least...
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On 4/14/2021 at 5:51 PM, Solomon Grundy said:
I need somebody to tell me why Khalil Herbert isn’t getting any buzz. @BuffaloHokie13, what’s the deal? @DCOrange, @GunnerBill, @Buffalo716.
Here's the thing about the RB class... It's pretty bad. No, it's just flat-out bad. VERY few of these guys outside of the top 3 are going to amount to much of anything in the pros. Herbert has some decent tape, but also lost out on a starting job to Pooka Williams who's one of many uninspiring RBs in this class... If you can't beat out a classmate who's pretty "meh", what are you?
I do think Herbert's tape has a little interest to it, but the fact is, we're just as likely to get somebody with nearly as much potential as a UDFA as we are drafting Herbert in the 5th.
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Just now, frostbitmic said:
Agreed, a 5th or 6th round pick might be worth it. You could find a good contributor or someone who won't make the team. Practice squad for a year or two is likely his destiny.
Would fit nicely on the Lions, Bengals or Panthers.
Yep. I actually really love what the WFT just did signing Sammis Reyes. Better athlete, same need to develop over a couple years... They basically just purchased a high-ceiling 5th round pick.
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4 minutes ago, frostbitmic said:
Was a transfer to Georgia last year from Florida St. He got hurt before the season and barely played. his Florida St tape looks pretty good.
I've mentioned McKitty on this board before, definitely an interesting player who never played up to the potential that his athleticism and frame would suggest. I know he faced some injury issues over the years and have seen some speculate that those have caused him to be a lot more stiff than he should be...
Feels like a guy who's probably worth a 5 or a 6 to get into an NFL program to see if he can't overcome those issues and breakout, but not somebody I'd be investing a lot of draft capital in...
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Chargers are listening to offers for 47 too
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Key couldn't earn PT on one of the most pass-rush needy teams in the league... Says something.
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3 minutes ago, CNYfan said:
Baron Browning LB
I guess Stokes seems logical. Believe it should be defense after all of the offense picks early recently
Completely indifferent to it. I think it's important to remember that this is just for fun and completely made up. As long as it's a sensible pick and not, like, a long snapper or something, probably worth just pulling the trigger and keepin' on keepin' on...
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While I candidly have not seen the data on this, so don't know if it's effecting things or not, it should also be mentioned along with the defense's "regression", that that tends to happen when your offense puts up more points and plays at a faster pace. I believe we were one of the fastest paced teams last season and we were certainly one of the highest scoring offenses, so purely from a "time on field" standpoint, our defense was going to be worse... Whether that's still true prorated for pace of play and other factors, I'm not sure.
It's also extremely silly to pretend like Beane is the only one providing input on these selections. They're absolutely collaborating on making these decisions. Furthermore, the more recently drafted guys have also suffered injuries or (though I'm loathe to defend him), like Oliver, forced into bad roles because of other injuries... I think it's pretty likely the D looks better this year.
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6 minutes ago, Virgil said:
Anyone want to make the pick for the Lions?
Trying to be as objective as possible... The Draft Network lists WR, CB, OT as the Lions' top needs. They took Chase in the 1st so OT or CB... Eric Stokes (CB, Georgia) and Dillon Radunz (OT, NDSU) are the best available on TDN's rankings, at those positions...
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Gunner's 2021 FINAL Mock Draft on PAGE 21
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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PM me. No need to derail a thread but let’s get a little more specific about it.