glazeduck
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When you include the resources used in FA and resignings, the question really is, at what point are you throwing good money after bad?
No one’s arguing that we haven’t had success under this current regime, but that’s a ton of resources to dedicate to one aspect of the game… May not happen next year, but if these investments don’t go better than past… it does feel like something has to happen before too long…
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Just now, BillytheKid said:
You do know the Bills offense last year was one of only 5 teams to ever average over 3 points per play over the entire history of the NFL.
They were the only team to score 30 touchdowns running and 30 passing ever in the history of the NFL and they averaged about 31 points per game.
You aren’t going to be able to “open up” the offense or score much more than that.
The defense is the problem. The offense isn’t going to score a lot more points just because They add one more speedy receiver.
The defense can’t be giving up 30 ppg every time in the AFC championship game.
I acknowledged that defense is the problem. Our offense is currently made up entirely of short and intermediate route runners. To pretend that a guy to stretch the field vertically wouldn’t help with that shirt area traffic is either naive or uninformed. We spent most of our resources in FA on defense and now 6 draft picks of draft capital on defense, yet refuse to give THE MVP OF THE LEAGUE more help. I stand by my point, there are opportunities on both sides of the ball but apparently only interest in fixing one of them (and I’m lukewarm at best on the attempt there…)
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6 minutes ago, JJGauna said:
We aren’t missing out on trips to the Super Bowl due to our offense lol.
Seen this sentiment a lot, and I’m sorry but it’s a terrible take. It’s like looking at your kid’s report card and seeing a B and a C and saying that they can only improve the C.
Just because our defense has bigger issues doesn’t mean there’s not significant room to improve our offense, and help to provide our best and most important player…
We obviously have no idea what the bird looks like, and as I said earlier, I’m fine with the pick, but to pretend like we can’t open up more opportunities on offense is silly.
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🙄 fine with the player. Hate trading up for a tub’o’goo. Hate even more taking him over a deep threat…
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Won't happen, but if we do end up trading Cook, Treyveon Henderson would be a fun/surprising selection
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21 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:
I think you’d be pleasantly surprised on Burden. Outside of Hunter, he’s got the most upside and can stretch the field. Super explosive. I’d love for him to be the pick in round 2. Also wouldn’t mind getting ScatteBILL if we traded cook either. I’m fine with getting DTs and DEs but let’s not just get a need for the heck of it like we did with Carter last year when more talented players are available
Pass on SkattePoo, kid's tough as nails but I think he's gonna get eaten alive by NFL defenses...
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6 minutes ago, blacklabel said:
Burden has some character concerns that I think would have the Bills weary on drafting him. Apparently he's a lousy practice player and would just straight up skip practices at times. He (mostly) shows up on game day but there's been a good bit of reports I've seen that practice stuff. Doesn't sound very processy to me haha.
Yeah there's also those whispers... I think we'll have a good indication of how true those may be based on when/if he comes off the board tonight...
He's unquestionably very talented, that's the kind of guy that GMs will put BS stuff out there to get him to drop. If he goes early tonight, either that was all smoke, or a team is comfortable with it. If he goes later or not at all, there's likely fire to that smoke...
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Just now, gonzo1105 said:
I think if Buffalo drafts him , Emmanwori, it’s to play him at LBThat would certainly fit their previous model. Like I said, I'm just hoping for some innovation (ala more man coverage)
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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:
Emmanwori doesn’t fit what the Bills need at Safety. Never say never but I don’t expect Scourton to be there unless they trade up like you want to. The moves at 3T and 1 T aren’t necessarily about this year they are about next year because we are old injury prone, not effective, and have multiple Free AgentsI'll admit that I'm projecting a lot with Emmanwori (knew I was butchering it...) but between what McDermott did with a slow and undersized cb in Jordan Poyer and the many undersized LBs he's been able to turn into productive players, AND some scheme change, I'm more or less hoping he can do something innovative with a physical specimen like him.
On drafting for the future... I get it, and I've never been a fan of Oliver, but we're in our Super Bowl window and we have picks to burn. Go get a guy or two who can hopefully get us over the top.
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Just now, Clyde Smith said:
Burden, Collins and Farmer.
I like Burden the player, but I'm not sure he's an ideal fit in this offense... We need a guy to stretch things vertically and he's at his best when he's running routes shorter and intermediate routes -- the same area where Keon, Shakir and both TEs are already finding heavy traffic...
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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:
To me they’re not going to take a 1T until Round 4 especially if Carter is moving to that spot. I think they go 3T in Round 2Agree that they will wait on a run-stuffer, but I'd be a little surprised with 3T unless an obvious one is sitting there... Neither are my favorite, by any means, but Oliver and Ogunjobi should be
ableexpected to give us a majority of the necessary snaps there.Emmanoari is a day-1 starter for us, Scourton and the BC guy probably get plenty of burn in pass-rushing situations, the right WR could make a big impact on this offense... I'd say package both 2s and a later pick or a '26 to move up and get back something in rd. 3...
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Pass on the fat guys. Go up and get Scourton, Emmanouri (butchered that), or a WR if they like one well enough. Get difference-makers now.
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17 hours ago, JohnNord said:
Call your shot then… what do you think they’ll do?
I think they’d trade trade out of round 1 to swap 2nd rounds (higher spot) and get back the pick for Cooper
Didn't see this in time, also have had about 4 seconds to study this class, so wouldn't have been confident in any pick, but my response would've been something like "barring a no-brainer edge or WR falling, I'll go with a CB. Based entirely on groupthink [because again I was pretty much completely tuned out this year] I would guess Amos, but whoever they like the best that can play man and zone"...
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16 minutes ago, JohnNord said:
I totally get what you are saying. But if you listened to Beane’s pre-draft press conference he said that what attracted them most to DeWayne Carter was his versatility inside. He blamed the wrist injury for his Boogie Basham-like rookie season and feels he can still be your 1TDT - even though he sucked there last season.
So I can see a scenario where the Bills rationalize a pick like Harmon believing that DaQuan can hold down the fort for the final season and that Carter can step in at 1TDT if Harmon can’t get it done as a rookie. Don’t like this scenario but I can see it playing out
Perhaps. I guess I'm speaking more philosophically and based on anything else. We're pretty consistent in targeting impact positions early and 1Ts are not that... neither are safeties, for that matter...
We'll find out soon enough!
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30 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:
Man I just want to find our own Chris Jones. What we all hoped Oliver would turn into siiiighhhhhhh. Josh would have 2 rings by now with him on our team IMO... but youre right dont force it. Harmon atleast bats down a lot of passes doesnt he?
In a perfect world, sure, and yes he gets his hands on his fair share of balls. But a few things to consider:
1. Even if Harmon is Chris Jones 2.0, he won't be that right away. We need impact players now. Perhaps he still impacts the run game reasonably well enough, but is that worth a first rd. pick?
2. Ultimately the draft is a game of percentages and margins -- my POV is the delta of impact between a guy like Harmon in the first, and a bigger body in the 4th or 5th is probably smaller than a top CB, edge rusher or WR. They're impact positions for a reason.
3. This is all said as a duck fan. I loved what Harmon brought to that DL, and definitely think we could do way worse. I'm just saying that both Bills draft history suggests we're looking at other positions early and general draft history suggests there will still be functional run stoppers later in the draft...
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1 hour ago, mannc said:
I don't see an issue with taking a 1T at the end of round 1, especially if the player has some pass rush upside, like Harmon and Grant...and it's a huge need. There just aren't that many massive humans with athletic ability...
Really just comes down to how you plan on using them... I see most 1Ts as 2-down guys. Having watched Harmon play live all last season, yes, I'd say he has a touch of pass-rushing upside at the pro level, but unless Oliver goes down, he's AT BEST our 4th pass-rusher, and likely not even that...
I'd just prefer -- and based on past-precedent, think the front office feels similarly -- that we use the pick on a player that can make a difference on all 3 downs and either draft a tub'o'lard later, or make a trade for a guy that fits what they're looking for using next year's picks and/or players on their way out... -
18 hours ago, mannc said:
One thing I’m sure of is that Malaki Starks won’t be the pick…Beane uses the first round to take players at premium positions. No way we take a safety in round 1, after picking one in round 2 last year.
Plus they really like Taylor Rapp…and Derrick Forest is going to be good, as well.
This is why I don’t think it’ll be a 1T either.
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With a competent QB, James Hardy could’ve been a star. And that hopefully would've saved his life. So yes, my hot take is Trent Edwards is directly responsible for a man’s death…
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Great work as always @GunnerBill, I think these are all super logical and well reasoned — my one quibble might be James Pearce, whose stock sounds like js completely cratering, based off attitude and personality flags — I know you try to avoid incorporating those things, but for me the smoke is getting too thick to ignore (Mike Green could be in the same boat…). I’d be fine with Grant, definitely fills a big need, but man, if Luther Burden fell that far, I think we’d all be having Brian Thomas de ja vu feelings this time next year, he is the prototype of what this offense needs, I think…
I haven’t been on the board much lately, but one thing I’ve had in my mind is the way this front office seems to be valuing (or devaluing) certain positions. If past precedent is any indication, I’d think a 2-down DT (or a safety, for that matter) probably aren’t in the cards for our first round pick. If true I’d say CB, DE or WR probably get the nod there, but perhaps they see things shifting back to a running league and want to stay ahead of things… -
Haven't scoured this entire thread, so apologies if this was already brought up, buuuuut...
If it's true that we're moving to more of a man-based defense, that's going to impact Benford. I don't think I'd go so far to as to say that he's exclusively a zone cb, but it would seem like a pretty massive risk making a top-5/10 positional investment in a guy who's a bit of a square peg/round hole fit. He's probably a better fit as a FS in a man defense.
I wonder if those discussions are at least part of the reason why his deal hasn't gotten done yet? That's a tough situation, you want to reward the guy for significantly outplaying his draft spot and hang onto a guy who's been great for you, but a structural change within the framework is now, arguably, making that more difficult and less appealing...
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19 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:
Side note here.
Davante Adams was traded in 2022 to Las Vegas for picks 22 and 53.
Las Vegas immediately gave him a 5 year deal worth 28.5 million a year and 67 million guaranteed.
Adams was 29, Metcalf is 27
Adams has the stats and the all pro's and pro bowls but he also played with Aaron Rodgers.
I have to say after looking at that giving up a 1 and coleman/kincaid seems high.
pick 22 is worth 780 points and 53 is worth 370 so 1150 points.
pick 30 is worth 620 points. So 530 points difference. Lets say Buffalo wins the superbowl, pick 32 is worth 590. That leaves a 60 point difference. Pick 137 is worth 37.5.
That means this years 1 and next years 1 is an overpay that can be equaled out with the return of an early 4.
So hypothetically.
Seattle sends Metcalf and #137
Buffalo sends 2025 #30 & 2026 #32
I would do this right now if it were an option. Curtis Samuels deal is over after next year.
The Bills could have Metcalf, Coleman/Hollins(resign) outside and Samuels, Shakir inside with Knox, Kincaid, Davidson, Morris(resign) at tight end.
that would be a pretty great offense. The bills get better, keep their guys and get even bigger on offense.
I LOVE DK, but sorry man, that's a bit YIKES from me. Big big overpay. If we're packaging 2 1s, go get Luther Burden instead. His small contract, compared to DK's, would allow us to sign another impact free agent.
If we can get DK for Coleman and a 2, awesome. I don't think Seattle's getting a better offer than that elsewhere. If we can't, so be it.
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3 hours ago, Mark Vader said:
I understand what you mean, but for me I don't care about draft picks this year.
The Bills can win a championship this coming season. Get as many proven players as you can, and worry about draft picks in 2026.
For the Bills, the future is NOW!
100% with you -- if it were up to me, I'd be using every draft pick I could on player upgrades, not rookies. I just think we need to make 3 or 4 moves with those picks, and there's obviously only a limited number we have at our disposal, so I'd be for doing what's necessary to use those picks as economically as possible.
Without looking at the cap ramifications, I'd be looking at packaging Rousseau with a pick or two for Garrett or Crosby; Keon and another pick for DK, etc.
No sense going all in on one deal if you can swing 2 or 3!
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1 minute ago, KOKBILLS said:
Maybe the 2nd most...
I did say “probably” 😂
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6 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said:
DK Metcalf is an absolute stud. He's 27 years old and in his prime. He's one of the best deep threat WR's in the NFL and a physical mismatch against any NFL CB. He's managed 6300 yards and 48 TD in 6 seasons despite mediocre QB play most of his NFL career. Getting him in Buffalo for a 2nd and a 4th would be a steal. I'd do cartwheels and I've never done a cartwheel in my life...lol...
The rest of the AFC would shudder at the thought of DK matched with Josh in Buffalo... He's literally exactly what we need and then some.
Believe me, I know all about DK. I’m in the PNW and unfortunately the Seahawks are on here EVERY. WEEK. I agree that he’s a stud.
I was also probably the most outspoken person on this board wanting him over EO in that draft, so I like him plenty. My POV isn’t that we shouldn’t go for him, just that we have limited resources to fill a lot of holes this offseason, and trading 2 picks AND taking on his big $# severely limits our abilities to affect the other needs.
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Players remaining that the Bills have met with beyond a combine meeting
in The Stadium Wall
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Might want to Google him…