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Awesome... makes sense to me! [And if you're in France (? or maybe your user name refers to the Sabres), you would know more than most Americans].

Is it called a "fixture" in British English?

Yep, you noticed it too: old Baltimore vs. new Baltimore! Broadcast assignments are mostly based on distribution. The NYC market is huge, plus New England had a good following.

Awesome! You are correct on Sky Sorts. Either I misread their schedule or they updated it, probably the former, lol). I will update my post.

Not this week. Here is the schedule:

Atlanta at Detroit is not bad.

https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=3 https://archive.506sports.com/wiki/2023_NFL_Season [UK listings near the bottom] "September 24, 2023 All listings are unofficial and subject to change. Check back often for updates." [Note: This week there are two MNF games, scheduled to start at 7:15 PM ET (ABC) and 8:15 PM ET (ESPN/ESPN2).] [Note 2: Doubleheader this week is FOX.] [Note 3: There is no MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 4: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NFL Week 3 2023 - September 24, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: TNF - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch Thursday, September 21 - 8:15 PM ET: New York Giants at San Francisco Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung [simulcasts: WNYW (FOX/5) New York and KTVU (FOX/2) San Francisco] SNF - NBC Sunday, September 24 - 8:20 PM ET: Pittsburgh at Las Vegas Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark MNF Game 1 - ABC Monday, September 25 - 7:15 PM ET: Philadelphia at Tampa Bay Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters MNF Game 2 - ESPN/ESPN2 Monday, September 25 - 8:15 PM ET: Los Angeles Rams at Cincinnati Chris Fowler, Dan Orlovsky, Louis Riddick, Laura Rutledge [simulcasts: KCOP 13 Los Angeles and WLWT (NBC/5) Cincinnati] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Single Sunday, September 24 - 1 PM and 4:05 PM: █ Red (including Hawaii): New England at New York Jets (1) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson █ Green: Denver at Miami (3) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins █ Yellow (Yellow): Buffalo at Washington (4) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross █ Orange: Tennessee at Cleveland (5) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Aditi Kinkhabwala █ Aqua (Aqua): Indianapolis at Baltimore (6) Beth Mowins (subbing for Tom McCarthy), James Lofton, Jay Feely, Amanda Renner [McCarthy will be calling the home finale for the Philadelphia Phillies instead.] █ Blue (including Alaska (LATE): Carolina at Seattle (2) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Early Sunday, September 24 - 1 PM ET: █ Red (including Hawaii): Atlanta at Detroit (3) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink █ Blue (including Alaska and Hawaii): New Orleans at Green Bay Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake █ Green: Los Angeles Chargers at Minnesota Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin █ Yellow (Yellow): Houston at Jacksonville (6) Chris Myers, Robert Smith, Jen Hale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Late Sunday, September 24 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Red (including Alaska and Hawaii): Chicago at Kansas City (1) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi █ Blue: Dallas at Arizona (2) Joe Davis, Daryl Johnston, Pam Oliver ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK: https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/12118/12950824/nfl-2023-season-live-on-sky-sports-kansas-city-chiefs-miami-dolphins-new-york-jets-and-san-francisco-49ers-in-action-across-opening-three-weeks https://www.skysports.com/watch/nfl-on-sky TNF Friday, September 22 - 1:20 AM BST: New York Giants at San Francisco Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Early Game Sunday, September 24- 6 PM BST (!!) [Main Event only joined in progress one hour after the usual 6 PM start time due to a Premier League fixture showing (Sheffield Utd. v. Newcastle] (thanks to @BritBill for the correction!) Los Angeles Chargers at Minnesota Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Late Game Sunday, September 24 - 9:25 PM BST: Chicago at Kansas City Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event SNF Monday, September 25 - 1:20 AM BST: Pittsburgh at Las Vegas Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event MNF - Game 1 Tuesday, September 26 - 12:15 AM BST: Philadelphia at Tampa Bay Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event, MNF - Game 2 Tuesday, September 26 - 1:15 AM BST: Los Angeles Rams at Cincinnati Sky Sports Arena, Sky Sports Mix, and Channel 5 [Note: Below is the original Sky Sports tweet showing the New England-New York Jets game for the Sunday early game. Since Aaron Rodgers got injured, they replaced the game with using a Twitter vote. Note: they also got the home and away teams wrong for the second consecutive week for the Jets game.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NFL Game Pass on DAZN: TBD ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bye Week: none

All good questions. I don't have much time, but I found this: This was Week 17 last season and the Steelers won against the Ravens 16-13 but could have lost due to Land Clark's unnecessary roughness penalty against Cam Heyward. https://fansided.com/2023/01/01/refs-screw-steelers-playoff-race-cam-heyward-penalty/ The refs for the Steelers and Ravens stirred up controversy when they hit Cam Heyward with a costly and questionable unnecessary roughness penalty. [...] With seconds left before halftime, Pittsburgh got a third-down stop that would have forced Baltimore to settle for a field goal. However, there was some pushing and shoving on the post-tackle pile that resulted in an unnecessary roughness penalty against Cam Heyward. Immediately, fans questioned the call. It looked relatively harmless. At most, there could have been offsetting penalties since Heyward had been grabbed by Baltimore players in the pile in the first place. Instead, only one side got a major punishment for something minor. The Ravens got a first down as a result and promptly scored a touchdown on a pass from Tyler Huntley to Isaiah Likely. In essence, Baltimore got four extra points because of the penalty. By the fourth quarter, the four-point margin between the teams was notable. The Steelers have been clinging to hopes of making the playoffs, winning five of their last seven since starting the season 2-6. The game against the Ravens was a must-win. A loss would eliminate Pittsburgh." https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2023/1/2/23535529/official-from-week-17-tries-to-explain-unnecessary-roughness-penalty-on-cam-heyward-steelers-ravens "It was a 4-point swing, and until Kenny Pickett and the offense’s late-game heroics, it looked as if those points would be the deciding factor in the game. So, what happened which resulted in the flag being thrown? This is what referee Land Clark told a pool reporter after the game. “Well, there was some pushing and shoving after the play,” referee Land Clark told a pool reporter after the game via Ray Fittipaldo of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. “No. 97 continued to push after the play, and that’s why it was called.” In the locker room after the game, Heyward sang a different tune. Nonetheless, he didn’t run and hide from the play, instead focusing on getting his defense ready for the second half. “I got pulled back down, and it looks like hit the ref,” Heyward said. “We were able to regroup at halftime. Swallowed my pride and just kept going.”

And of course, half the board here wanted him. But Buffalo drafted Donte Whitner (and John McCargo) to star in Dick Jauron's new Tampa 2 system...sigh.

Yep, thanks for stating that. And he won't make it for the Class of 2024 either, since the three Senior Finalists were already named: "recently named Seniors Finalists Randy Gradishar, Steve McMichael and Art Powell"

Wait...someone voted for the Jets to win the division?!?!?

Included are former Bills players: Doug Flutie (thanks to @Just Jack for the catching the omission!) Takeo Spikes London Fletcher Brian Moorman Ruben Brown Bryce Paup Pat Williams Ted Washington Cornelius Bennett (thanks to @Solomon Grundy for catching the omission!) Larry Centers Antoine Winfield Troy Vincent Anquan Boldin* (*played only in the pre-season of 2017 for Buffalo before retiring) Gary Anderson** (**only played for Buffalo in the pre-season of 1982 before being waived) (thanks to @The Jokeman and @thurst44 for catching more omissions today!) Am I omitting anyone else from the entire list below? First-time nominees: Brandon Marshall Jordy Nelson Antonio Gates Jamaal Charles T.J. Lang Josh Sitton Max Unger Haloti Ngata Julius Peppers. Unsuccessful Finalists from 2023: Torry Holt Devin Hester Regie Wayne Andre Johnson Dwight Freeney Willie Anderson Jared Allen Patrick Willis Darren Woodson Albert Lewis, an unsuccessful Finalist from last year, aged out. Also, Willie McGinest was nominated this year. LOL...good luck getting in. https://www.profootballhof.com/news/2023/09/173-modern-era-nominees-announced-for-pro-football-hall-of-fame-class-of-2024/ "The list of Modern-Era Nominees will be reduced to 25 Semifinalists in November. [...] Modern-Era nominees for Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2024 [...] "QUARTERBACKS (10): Marc Bulger, Randall Cunningham, Jake Delhomme, Doug Flutie, Rich Gannon, Jeff Garcia, Donovan McNabb, Steve McNair, Tony Romo, Michael Vick. RUNNING BACKS (33): Shaun Alexander, Terry Allen, Mike Alstott, Jamal Anderson, Tiki Barber, Michael Bates (also KR), Jamaal Charles, Larry Centers (FB), Stephen Davis, Corey Dillon, Warrick Dunn, Charlie Garner, Eddie George, Ahman Green, Priest Holmes, Steven Jackson, Chris Johnson, Daryl Johnston (FB), Thomas Jones, John Kuhn (FB), Vonta Leach, Dorsey Levens, Jamal Lewis, Eric Metcalf (also WR/PR/KR), Glyn Milburn (also WR), Lorenzo Neal (FB), Tony Richardson (FB), Robert Smith, Fred Taylor, Chris Warren, Ricky Watters, Brian Westbrook, Ricky Williams. WIDE RECEIVERS (23): Anquan Boldin, Troy Brown (also PR/KR), Donald Driver, Antonio Freeman, Irving Fryar, Dante Hall, Devin Hester* (also PR/KR), Torry Holt*, Joe Horn, Andre Johnson*, Chad Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Derrick Mason, Herman Moore, Muhsin Muhammad, Jordy Nelson, Andre Rison, Jimmy Smith, Rod Smith, Steve Smith Sr., Hines Ward, Reggie Wayne*, Wes Welker. TIGHT ENDS (3): Ben Coates, Antonio Gates, Wesley Walls. OFFENSIVE LINEMEN (25): Willie Anderson* (T), Bruce Armstrong (T/G), Matt Birk (C), Lomas Brown (T), Ruben Brown (G), Jahri Evans (G), Kevin Glover (C/G), Olin Kreutz (C), T.J. Lang (T), Matt Light (T), Nick Mangold (C), Logan Mankins (G), Tom Nalen (C), Nate Newton (G/T), Jeff Saturday (C), Mark Schlereth (G/C), Josh Sitton (G), Chris Snee (G), Mark Stepnoski (C), Dave Szott (G), Max Unger (C), Brian Waters (G), Richmond Webb (T), Erik Williams (T), Steve Wisniewski (G). DEFENSIVE LINEMEN (20): John Abraham (DE also LB), Jared Allen* (DE), Dwight Freeney* (DE), La’Roi Glover (DT/NT), Casey Hampton (DT/NT), Robert Mathis (DE), Haloti Ngata (DT), Leslie O’Neal (DE), Julius Peppers (DE), Simeon Rice (DE), Justin Smith (DE), Neil Smith (DE), Dana Stubblefield (DT), Henry Thomas (DT/NT), Justin Tuck (DE), Ted Washington (NT/DT), Vince Wilfork (DT/NT), Jamal Williams (DT/NT), Kevin Williams (DT), Pat Williams (DT). LINEBACKERS (25): Jesse Armstead, Brendon Ayanbadejo, Cornelius Bennett, Lance Briggs, Keith Brooking, NaVorro Bowman, Tedy Bruschi, Karlos Dansby, Donnie Edwards, James Farrior, London Fletcher, James Harrison, Larry Izzo, Willie McGinest (also DE), Hardy Nickerson, Ken Norton Jr., Bryce Paup, Julian Peterson, Joey Porter, Takeo Spikes, Jessie Tuggle, Mike Vrabel, Patrick Willis*, Al Wilson, Lee Woodall. DEFENSIVE BACKS (17): Eric Allen (CB), Kam Chancellor (S), Nick Collins (DB), Antonio Cromartie (CB), Dré Bly (DB), Merton Hanks (S), Rodney Harrison (S), Carnell Lake (DB), Tim McDonald (S), Eugene Robinson (DB), Samari Rolle (DB), Allen Rossum (DB), Bob Sanders (S), Charles Tillman (CB), Troy Vincent (CB), Antoine Winfield (DB), Darren Woodson* (S). PUNTERS/KICKERS (15): David Akers (K), Gary Anderson (K), Darren Bennett (P), Jason Elam (K), Jeff Feagles (P), Jason Hanson (K), John Kasay (K), Sean Landeta (P), Shane Lechler (P), Brad Maynard (P), Pat McAfee (P), Brian Moorman (P), Matt Stover (K), Matt Turk (P), Mike Vanderjagt (K). SPECIAL TEAMS (2): Josh Cribbs (KR/PR also WR), Brian Mitchell (KR/PR also RB). Nineteen Finalists will be presented to the full 50-member Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee during its annual meeting to choose the Class of 2024. Those candidates will consist of 15 Modern-Era Players Finalists and the recently named Seniors Finalists Randy Gradishar, Steve McMichael and Art Powell and Coach/Contributor Finalist Buddy Parker."

There are some things from the 70's I choose not to remember, lol.

Damn, I was very young when this came out. Never knew about it. It was funny as hell though. Good 70's humor.

Dawson better be careful with his taunting this time, lol.

LOL...this is so true. Also, a first name than is a last name and vice-versa, liked "Mason Rudolph".

Position - No. - Name - 2022 Crew - Yrs. Exp. - College - Occupation R - 130 - Land Clark - 6 - n/a - Sevier Valley Tech - chief building official U - 21 - Paul King - 15 - same - Nichols College - teacher DJ - 68 - Tom Stephan - 25 - same - Pittsburg State - retired business broker LJ - 40 - Brian Bolinger - 7 - same - Indiana State - corporate safety director FJ - 26 - Jabir Walker - 9 - Hussey - Murray State - middle school teacher SJ - 114 - Dominique Pender - 4 - same - Howard - trade support, finance and banking BJ - 88 - Brad Freeman - 10 - Hussey - Mississippi State - sports park director RO - n/a - Bob Hubbell - 4 - Rogers - Texas A&M - unknown RA - n/a - Jim Van Geffen - rookie - n/a - unknown - unknown ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Land Clark was #8 out of 17 on the most recent referee power rankings (2015): https://samsonthebeard.com/referee-power-rankings/ "8. Land Clark Land is a wunderkind, becoming a referee after only 2 years in the league. Ironically, he loves flying and cruises." https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/who-is-land-clark-and-what-is-going-on-with-his-officiating-crew-in-bills/article_1cd40a4e-3ffc-11ec-b6e2-4b1285676883.html [subscription required] "Who is Land Clark and what is going on with his officiating ..."

I am just sayings it's been happening on and off over the years for me, so it's hard to diagnose and replicate the issue. It didn't happen just now, but that's not unusual. I will take your word that it is fixed, but if it does happen again, I just scroll up. Its not a big deal. I am happy! No I haven't used it. Its happened to me in Edge and Chrome and maybe iOS and Android. It's hard to replicate consistently.

It's happened a lot others, me included. There have been a number of threads about it but Im too lazy to look them up. It's a known issue that is uncorrectable. Probably a software flaw. It's been happening for years here. No biggie and not your fault. I think it' a software developer issue. I like your attentiveness to these issues though. They don't care on other forums. Makes this a top-notch site!

WTF?? Did I actually type that??! LOL. I meant "the". How did I do that? Stupid phone. 😄

Sky Sports NFL has suddenly decided to nix the long-planned Week 3 New England - NY Jets game after the Rodgers injury. [It's going to be a long season for Jets fans, lol.] Vote now! Your choices: 1. DET-ATL 2. BAL-IND 3. LAC-MIN

IOW, the cable and satellite companies that carry ESPN are not happy.

The Pickens long TD was reminiscent of Andre Reed's long TD in 1989 at the Browns in the playoffs where he split the two high defenders to give the Bills the lead.

Just advertised Saquon on TNF, but he won't be playing.

Rayn Fitzpatrick calling himself "Fitzmagic" when Minkah Fitzpatrick has the legal trademark. Lawyers didn't do their research.