chongli

We own the tie-breaker against Las Vegas (and soon will against the Chargers). Both teams are irrelevant. Still, better that the Raiders win so they get a worse draft pick so they won't be able to draft a better QB.

Uber and Lyft don't exist at night in some smaller towns. But taxis still work. Well one person told me a story in the 90's that not wearing a seatbelt could save your life. She knew someone where the top half of the car was sheared off somehow suddenly while the bottom remained intact. A seatbelt would have prevented you from ducking quickly to avoid the shear.

Buffalo already went abroad this year, and Miami has the international rights to Brazil, so I'm thinking no for next year. Plus, Brazilians don't care about unknown northern cities like Buffalo, lol.

Buffalo in Toronto was not included. And the only international matchup that has occurred twice is BUF-JAX I think.

Games in 2024: 3 London 1 Munich 1 Sao Paolo https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-ownership-votes-to-double-international-games-inventory-beginning-in-2025 "In addition to the game in São Paulo, the 2024 NFL International Games will see three games played in London: two at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and a third at Wembley Stadium, where the Jacksonville Jaguars will play a home game as part of a multi-year partnership. A fifth game will see the NFL back in Germany for a third consecutive year, returning to Allianz Arena in Munich"

Every team has to give up a home game once every eight seasons, however even with that rule, there will be many teams not wanting to give up more than just the one obligated home game every eight seasons. If the NFL overexpands international games to eight per season, teams will need to give up home games more often. I have also heard rumors the Cowboys could be the team hosting the Brazil game, for what it's worth.

He looks nuts, lol! Thanks for finding it.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39104280/sources-super-bowl-lxi-played-sofi-stadium-la From the article: "The game will be televised by ESPN and ABC. It will be ESPN's first Super Bowl telecast and ABC's first telecast of the game since Super Bowl XL in February 2006. [...] The league will sandwich the Super Bowl between the World Cup in 2026, when Los Angeles will be one of 16 North American host cities, and the Summer Olympic Games in 2028, giving Los Angeles a tripleheader of mega sporting events that will make it one of the sports capitals of the world." LOL:

Agreed. Too much politics on the main forum. And these are a sampling of the non-football current topics on the first page: Sleep Apnea Andre Braughler Dies at 61 years old Stomach Flu what do you do Salt Water Hot Tubs? 50 Beers To Try Before You Die LOL.

My Toyota has a drowsy alert where if it detects you are veering out of the lane too much it gives you a message to take a break. The problem is I drive a lot from Nevada to California across the Sierra Nevada on a narrow curvy road over the mountains. With a larger car, it is damn near hard to be perfect on these curves and keep the car perfectly in between the lines. So the lane departure alert signal was going off every 30 seconds and it eventually gave me a drowsy warning. I got annoyed after some time, so I just disabled lane alert, steering assist, and the drowsy message, because they were always false positives. [The other problem was when they were doing construction each night and the barriers had you purposely drive on a lane line. Then the lane alert went bonkers and tried to steer me into the cones.] So if they eventually make cars with intoxication monitoring, it better be accurate, which it is not. Also, I read they will never do a baby monitor for a baby left in the back seat of a car on a hot day because of liability. No one wants to undertake the liability if a child dies because their monitor failed. [And speaking of mandated equipment, let's not get into passive restraints mandated by Elizabeth Dole in the late 80's and early 90's, namely automatic seatbelts, motorized seatbelts, ad seatbelts anchored to the door. BIG FAIL!]

I am not familiar with him. I looked for him on the web, but found nothing.

Wow...thanks for the education! Bowls sounds croquet in the US. But it is pickleball that is really catching on among older folk here. And in the US, field hockey is mainly played by women, like netball in the UK, but only in the northeast and Ohio I think. But in the rest of the world, both sexes play field hockey.

The angle I found interesting was that it was the Bills loss that probably caused him to get drunk. Third time in a row in the regular season KC has lost to Buffalo at home.

To me it just seemed so funny. Like what's next? They are preempting the NFL to show tic tac toe? In the US, darts is only done sometimes at bars. It's like playing bingo. But I understand different countries have different likes. i read that darts is very popular in the U.K., it is the highest rated indoor/arena sport by far, ahead of snooker, netball, ice hockey, and bowls. [But what the heck are "netball" and "bowls"? I never even heard of those. I guess I'm not too cosmopolitan, lol!]

[Note 1: Doubleheader this week is FOX.] [Note 2: There *is* a MNF ManningCast this week.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: Remember: all remaining MNF games this season are also simulcasted on ABC.] [Note 5: There are no regular season more byes left this year.] [Note 6: Don't forget there are three Saturday NFL Network games, all produced by CBS Sports.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=15 https://archive.506sports.com/wiki/2023_NFL_Season NFL Week 15, 2023 - December 17, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: TNF - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch (free) Thursday, December 14 - 8:15 PM ET: Los Angeles Chargers at Las Vegas Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung [simulcasts: KTTV (FOX/11) LA and KTNV (ABC/13) Las Vegas] Saturday Early - NFL Network Saturday, December 16 - 1 PM ET: Minnesota at Cincinnati Chris Rose, Jason McCourty, Steve Wyche [simulcasts: WCCO (CBS/4) Minneapolis and WCPO (ABC/9) Cincinnati] Saturday Late - NFL Network Saturday, December 16 - 4:30 PM ET: Pittsburgh at Indianapolis Rich Eisen, Kurt Warner, Jamie Erdahl [simulcasts: KDKA (CBS/2) Pittsburgh and WTTV (CBS/4) Indianapolis] Saturday Prime Time - NFL Network Saturday, December 16 - 8:15 PM ET: Denver at Detroit Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins [this is CBS's B-team] [simulcasts: KMGH (ABC/7) Denver and WJBK (FOX/2) Detroit] SNF - NBC Sunday, December 17 - 8:20 PM ET: Baltimore at Jacksonville Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark MNF - ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 Monday, December 18 - 8:15 PM ET: Philadelphia at Seattle [Kansas City at New England was flexed out] (A) Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters [ManningCast on ESPN2: Peyton Manning, Eli Manning] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Single Sunday, December 17 - 1 PM and 4:05 PM ET: █ Alaska █ Hawaii █ Red: New York Jets at Miami (A) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson █ Green: Tampa Bay at Green Bay (D) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross █ Yellow (Yellow): Houston at Tennessee (E) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Aditi Kinkhabwala █ Blue: San Francisco at Arizona (LATE) (B) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn █ Orange: Washington at Los Angeles Rams (LATE) (F) Tom McCarthy, James Lofton, Jay Feeley, Tiffany Blackmon ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Early Sunday, December 17 - 1 PM ET: █ Alaska █ Hawaii █ Red: Kansas City at New England (B) Joe Davis, Darly Johnston, Pam Oliver █ Blue: New York Giants at New Orleans Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake █ Green: Chicago at Cleveland Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin █ Yellow (Yellow): Atlanta at Carolina (C) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Late Sunday, December 17 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Red: Dallas at Buffalo (A) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: None ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK and Ireland: [Note 1: Sky Sports Main Event is preempting some NFL games and events this week to show darts instead.] https://www.skysports.com/watch/nfl-on-sky https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/ TNF Friday, December 15 - 1:15 AM GMT: Los Angeles Chargers at Las Vegas Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Saturday Early Saturday, December 16 - 6 PM GMT: Minnesota at Cincinnati Sky Sports NFL only Saturday Late Saturday, December 16 - 9:30 PM GMT: Pittsburgh at Indianapolis Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event [joined in progress at 11:00 PM] Saturday Prime Time Sunday, December 17 - 1:15 AM GMT: Denver at Detroit Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Early Game Sunday, December 17 - 6 PM GMT: Tampa Bay at Green Bay Sky Sports NFL only Sunday Late Game Sunday, December 17 - 9:25 PM GMT: Dallas at Buffalo Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event (joined in progress at 11:00 PM) SNF Monday, December 18 - 1:20 AM GMT: Baltimore at Jacksonville Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event MNF Tuesday, December 19 - 1:15 AM GMT: Philadelphia at Seattle [Kansas City at New England was flexed out] Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event, and Channel 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Australia: https://www.ussportsdownunder.com.au/blogs/tv-guides/australian-nfl-tv-guide TNF Friday, December 15- 12:15 AM AEDT: Los Angeles Chargers at Las Vegas ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, December 18 - 5:00 AM AEDT: Tampa Bay at Green Bay 7mate Kansas City at New England ESPN New York Jets at Miami ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, December 18 - 8:05 AM and 8:25 AM AEDT: San Francisco at Arizona (8:05 AM AEDT) 7mate Dallas at Buffalo (8:25 AM AEDT) ESPN SNF Monday, December 18 - 12:20 AM AEDT: Baltimore at Jacksonville ESPN MNF Tuesday, December 19- 12:15 AM AEDT: Philadelphia at Seattle [Kansas City at New England was flexed out] ESPN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand: TNF Friday, December 15 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Los Angeles Chargers at Las Vegas ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, December 18- 7:00 AM NZDT: Tampa Bay at Green Bay Free stream on NZTV+ Atlanta at Carolina Free stream on NZTV+ Kansas City at New England ESPN New York Jets at Miami ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, December 18 - 10:05 and 10:25 AM NZDT: San Francisco at Arizona (10:05 AM NZDT) Free stream on NZTV+ Dallas at Buffalo at Kansas City (10:25 AM NZDT) ESPN SNF Monday, December 18 - 2:20 PM NZDT: Baltimore at Jacksonville ESPN MNF Tuesday, December 19 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Philadelphia at Seattle [Kansas City at New England was flexed out] ESPN ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, it was a weird call. Collinsworth seemed to enjoy it though. I actually thought it was hilarious:

Agreed. Alcohol plus sports cars do not mix. This was a bad year for Chiefs superfans.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending/chiefs-superfan-known-da-beard-killed-car-crash/DLEPILNJZVEVJE4YLRHTVVWBSI/ "Chiefs’ superfan known as ‘Da Beard’ killed in car crash" INDEPENDENCE, Mo. — Daniel Nelson, a Kansas City Chiefs superfan known as “Da Beard” and “Red Beard” for his painted red face, was killed in a vehicle crash Monday morning, authorities said. He was 43. Nelson died shortly after midnight in Independence, Missouri, KCTV reported. According to Independence police, Nelson was driving a Chevrolet eastbound on 23rd Street around 12:20 a.m. CST when he crashed into a railroad bridge west of Noland Road, WDAF-TV reported. Police said that Nelson was not wearing a seatbelt at the time of the crash. The incident is still under investigation, but police believe alcohol may have been a contributing factor, according to the television station. [...] Another Chiefs superfan, Lynn “Weirdwolf” Schmidt, told WDAF that she had been with Nelson during Sunday’s game, a 20-17 loss to the Buffalo Bills. “He gave me the big bear hug that he always does,” Schmidt told the television station. “You know, you’ll see photos of us together, and he’s always got his arm just like clawed around you because he wanted to be close with people. “I think the game really took a toll on him yesterday. That loss was hard. I think he let things go.” ------------ EDIT: I read this on the KC forum: https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=17277174&postcount=33 "'Da Beard' is an anagram of his last moments: Bar. Dead." YIKES!

Interview in 2015 with Craig Wrolstad:

Good edit and good catch!

https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/referee-frank-steratore-flag-holding-investigation/ "NFL Fans Calling For Referee To Be Investigated After New Video Exposes Suspicious Behavior During Controversial P.I. Call vs. Jets (VIDEO) New York Jets star Sauce Gardner became a trending topic last night after a holding penalty that nullified a Patrick Mahomes interception in Sunday’s 23-20 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs. When the replay was shown, it was clear that Sauce was not holding and the Chiefs got bailed out. Now, a new video seems to bring into question the actions of a referee during that controversial play. Referee Frank Steratore is being called out for an investigation as a video shows him grabbing for his flag as soon as realizes an interception was about to happen. If Michael Carter II’s interception stands, New York has more than four minutes to get the game-tying or go-ahead score. In addition to a questionable defensive holding call against Sauce Gardner, which wiped away an interception, Jets defensive lineman Jermaine Johnson could be seen getting held for a stunning length of time on a play that resulted in a 25-yard run for Patrick Mahomes. Somehow, the officials seemed to not notice Johnson being held for multiple seconds. The Chiefs caught all the breaks."

We had Wrolstad in Week 2 vs. Las Vegas as well. NFL Week 15 Capsules: https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 15 Capsules.pdf [scroll 7/8 of the way down] Craig Wrolstad is in his 10th year as a referee Pos. Number Name Exp. 2022 Crew College Occupation R 4 Craig Wrolstad 21 n/a Washington Athletic Director U 54 Steve Woods 7 same Wabash Financial Advisor DJ 48 Jim Mello 20 same Northeastern Facilities Manager LJ 37 Tripp Sutter 5 same Nebraska Biopharmaceutical Rep FJ 60 Jeff Shear 2 same Denver Professor SB 142 Frank Steratore Rookie n/a [unknown] Sales, Sanitary Supplies Company BJ 27 Grantis Bell 4 same West Virginia School Counselor RO n/a Kevin Shine 6 same Alabama-Birmingham Regional Sales Manager RA n/a Gavin Anderson 5 same Green River Police Officer Rookie Side Judge Frank Steratore, Jr. is the cousin of Gene and Tony Steratore (both NFL officials) who are the co-owners of Steratore Sanitary Supply. Frank is in sales there. http://www.steratoresanitary.com/about-us.html https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35441956/nfl-officiating-scrutiny-seahawks-rams-controversy "Rams-Seahawks refs under heavy scrutiny: ‘Worst officiated game of the year’ Adam Schefter, ESPN Senior Writer - Jan 13, 2023, 10:36 PM ET "After multiple controversial officiating decisions in Sunday's playoff-shaping game between the Los Angeles Rams and Seattle Seahawks, multiple executives and coaches said the NFL needs to reevaluate how it chooses and trains its officiating staff for future seasons. Those same executives and coaches said game officials and the league missed multiple calls that helped key the Seahawks' overtime victory over the Rams that sent Seattle to Saturday's wild-card round and prevented the Detroit Lions from reaching the playoffs. Even the NFL's competition committee is aware of what one source described to ESPN "as the worst officiated game of the year. [...] “The Lions should be livid,” an unnamed source said, per the report. “It was an awful way for them to end their season.” [end article excerpt] [Note: Craig Wrolstad served as the referee for the game.]