CincyBillsFan

Fromm is the 4th string QB yet led the game winning drive. He actually didn't look to bad. The Bills have real depth at some positions.

Knox looked smooth to me. I think he's the starter and they're not playing the starters very long.

Sweeney had a great block on Breida's run to the Lions seven yard line. Blew his guy up.

He had great pressure on Boyle for the 1 yard completion. Forced the short throw,

This also shows just how savvy Allen is. Not a bad thing to have in your franchise QB. His easy going nature here reminds me of Rogers without the attitude.

This so true. I would ask Joy to actually look at the Bill's offensive roster that year and get back to us. That they won 6 games and actually moved the ball was a testament to Allen. That was when I realized that we had someone special at QB.

Sullivan had a good point about Austin being part of the Cowboys heartland. Saint Louis maybe? The bills are simply applying a little leverage which is smart for them to do. I'm thinking that it's still 95/5 they're staying in Buffalo for the long haul. If the downstate politicians play hard ball and won't budge on a stadium maybe Western NY could secede from NY State? They're trying to do just that in Eastern Oregon. Maybe join PA? There's a lot of Natural gas & Oil sitting under the ground in Western NY. Tap into that and paying for a new stadium would be lot easier. I know one thing even though I no longer live in Buffalo if the Bills move they and the NFL are dead to me. I can get my football fix from the college game.

Yea and back in the day I used to lead the chants for Gary Marangi to replace Joe Ferguson. Maybe Hodgins will be a great player. Hell I hope he is. But right now Beasley IS a great player and one of the top 3 slot receivers in the game. Now, when the Bills are on the cusp of a Super Bowl is not the time to lose sight of this. Hopefully they can work this out behind closed doors in training camp.

Gilliam is one of a large number of young Bills players who could really take off this season. Without making any big free agent signings this team could be a lot better if the younger players like Singleterry, Moss, Gilliam, Espinosa, Philips, Knox, Sweeny, Ford, Oliver, Davis and others I can't remember make a jump in performance this year. Hell, Allen & Edmends have room to get even better. This reminds of back in the late 80's when we had a lot of young players poised to make the leap - and they did.

I would encourage all the "plug in so & so into the slot and we'll be fine" folks watch any of the Allen highlight reels. Beasley was easily the 2nd best receiver on the team last year and he made a lot of crucial catches at critical points in the game. You just don't walk away from this level of talent and on field savvy because he's a curmudgeon.

I don't think there's anything Palmer can do to keep the RB's from dropping the ball or falling down (Singleterry against KC & Baltimore in the playoffs) or the O-line getting out and throwing a block (the last 2 seasons).

Apples and oranges. How would you have rated Kelly's playoff performances after the 1989 season? He was average to bad in 2 of his 3 playoff games. He only shined in the playoff loss to Cleveland. IMO Allen shined in the Indy game. He was the reason we won that game. The Baltimore game was clearly impacted by the weather conditions and IMO Allen had a decent but not great game against KC. His one INT was a ball that bounced off John Brown's hands and Singleterry dropped what would have been a game changing short pass after the Chiefs cut the Bills lead to 9 - 7. And Allen's game against Houston was not as bad as some say. It was inconsistent but in building a 13 - 0 halftime lead Allen played quite well. As I recall the only reason we didn't go up by 20 or 21 to nothing was poor WR play.

Check out the Bills pass play and LATERAL that happened at about the 5 minute mark! Allen must be studying old Bills game tape. When Allen lateraled the ball in the playoff game against the Texans I defended him because as recently as the late 60's/early 70's that was a common play in the NFL. And it had the potential to make big plays.

The Bills are on the cusp of getting to and winning a Super Bowl. We all can feel it. Losing Beasley at this time would likely keep us from getting over the hump IMO. I would challenge all the plug in and play guys who think McKenzie or Sanders or Davis or Hodges can just step in and play slot the way Beasley does to watch Josh Allen or Bills Offensive highlights from 2020. Beasley made a lot of critical catches at critical moments in a lot of games. If Beasley doesn't play and with the departure of Brown I would worry about taking a hit on WR continuity.

The Bills don't need Allen to take less money, he should and will be paid. What they need is for Allen to agree to a flexible contract that allows the Bills to create CAP room as needed. This is the kind of partnership that will keep the Bills at the top of the league and bring us home a Super Bowl win. And Allen is making it very clear this is exactly what he wants. Seems like a huge win for the Bills.

In what way?

I have read it multiple times and yes I feel confident that Henderson would have done things very differently then Fauci and company. And with better results to boot.

This is to broad and violates Henderson's rule that actions to thwart a pandemic should minimize societal disruption. The damage done by deviating from normalcy can be extensive. We are seeing that first hand now. We will pay a steep price for the lock downs over the next few decades. Nothing can stop the spread of a respiratory virus in it's tracks. The best you can do is manage the spread and focus on protecting the most vulnerable. I'll take my lead from DA Henderson over the CDC any day of the week. After all this guy used to head that organization among others: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.552.1109&rep=rep1&type=pdf

This is where risk/benefit calculations come in. Required vaccinations for schools make sense given the threat of the problems they're meant to deal with. Last I saw most school systems don't require children or teenagers to get the flu shot do they? This is in spite of flu outbreaks often emerging from schools.

I actually forgot to answer your question in my first response. This is actually a good point you're making and is a classic what comes first the chicken or the egg type question. Testing has confirmed that many virus can be passed from asymptomatic people to others. The caveat is that in most of these cases the virus remains at very low levels in the person it transferred to and they also are asymptomatic or suffer only minor symptoms. This is how herd immunity is quickly generated in human populations. During flu season if we were to test EVERYONE we would find asymptomatic spread. But we generally restrict our testing to symptomatic people. For covid the fear of the virus made the simple fact of catching the virus a problematic endpoint. Yet for the vast amount of people symptoms were slight or not apparent. It didn't help that our tests were to sensitive for practical public health actions. I guess what I'm trying to say is that those with symptoms are far more contagious then those without. And not only are they more contagious but their overt symptoms lead to their delivering higher doses of the virus to those they infect. Bottom line is that quarantining symptomatic folk would have been the most logical, effective and importantly least disruptive way to deal with covid. Spoken in hindsight of course.

What beliefs are that? As a 60+ year old I got vaccinated. And yes I'm a retired scientist. For what it's worth I worked on an anti-AIDS drug in the early 1990's. As far as the covid goes we are staring to get a clearer picture of it's etiology. Many of the assumptions made in March/April 2020 have turned out to be incomplete or flat out wrong. BTW, those are not my beliefs but what the aggregate data indicates.

One of the oddities about our response to covid versus the historical response has been the amount of testing and the sensitivity of the tests. Some of these tests can detect covid at very low levels in the body. This resulted in a couple of complicating factors: 1) The virus was being detected in people at levels below which it could trigger symptoms 2) The tests appeared inaccurate because people would test positive then negative then positive. This was likley due to the sensitivity of the test which was catching the covid at very low levels and at the limit of it's sensitivity. Monitors don't put me in TO for posting this but DA Henderson was America's greatest infectious disease specialist. Just Google his resume to be blown away. This is the guy credited with leading the effort that wiped out small pox. Here is a scientific article he wrote on how to handle future pandemics like covid. For some reason we choose to ignore this mans advice. https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.552.1109&rep=rep1&type=pdf

You will find a lot of contradictions in the data as the science is far from settled with this. But the current belief is that asymptomatic people rarely pass it on. To be perfectly blunt the CDC has been less then stellar during the pandemic. I'll leave it at that.

Skyline! When my Buffalo friends visit they fall into two groups: those that love the chili and those that hate it. Those that love it though must get their fix ASAP after they get here.

I think the only mitigation effort we did that worked was urging people who experience symptoms to quarantine. The bulk of the data I've seen shows that asymptomatic rarely pass covid on. We made a fatal mistake early on by quarantining healthy people instead of focusing on the sick. Every vulnerable person in the US has had the opportunity to get vaccinated. IMO the only people vulnerable are that way by choice.