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I get it and for the record I am pro-life. Sorry for the length, complicated topic. I do not think the patriot label applies to those people and it is there that we part ways on the topic. We rebelled against the British because it was a monarchy and we did not have a vote. Our forefathers crafted a nation of democratic rule where majority votes hold sway (well not women right away or black folks)...it is an evolving effort. Just because a disillusioned few did not like the last democratic vote and turn to violence does not make them heroes. Frustrated, angry, and enemies of democracy maybe. Think, if 4 years ago when Trump won, all those liberals grabbed their guns and what not and stormed the capital to prevent his electoral certification to defend their views. Would they be patriots too? No? Why? Because they hold different views from your own? e pluribus unum. Democracy is messy and far from perfect, but we have non-violent means to express our views and seek representation from our leaders. As to Trump's position on abortion over the years it has been fluid. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-evolving-stance-abortion/story?id=38057176
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WOW ! Will the Lies Never end ?
WideNine replied to T master's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Denial? You are right in a sense. Independence is denying letting a party affiliation overrule your own political judgment and positions. It allows me to practice objectivity, and forces me to be self-aware rather than an empty vessel waiting to be filled with some partisan propaganda. For me it allows more freedom to assess a political candidate based on their platform, record, and character. I have more respect for representatives that have a decent record of breaking with their party vote if they do so for good reason. It is also a unique position that forces candidates to work outside their comfort zone to court our swing votes. -
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WideNine replied to T master's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Cheney and Haliburton. If there is an organized military industrial complex that relationship was pretty good proof. IMO. Not against a strong military, just comical how some of our geopolitical enemies are able to keep us on our toes spending a fraction of their rubles. -
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WideNine replied to T master's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
There were a lot more war hawks in Congress after 911. Defense industries made some good coin. I am a bit cynical regarding non-strategic large-scale military operations over prescriptive military, economic, and covert operations. -
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WideNine replied to T master's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
I think you may have proven my point about your partisan slant. I am an independent, but GOP actions over the past decade have pushed me towards voting more Dem. Let's see if after 4 years we have folks rioting and destroying our capital buildings.... We will see where the deficit is at, and jobless rates, quality of living and then judge this administration. -
You do have to admit that there was and is a significant gap between the "sensible" intellect of Trump supporters vs liberals in the past. QAnon, white supremacist, armed extremist, kidnapping plotters, and nut jobs like the one below prove education and mental healthcare need greater investment. https://www.instagram.com/p/CKTvKFLpVSl/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Sure folks can and will argue social policies, but liberals did not storm the capital when Hillary lost. Did they bank on some legal moves or procedural efforts - yes, but imagine if Trump won the popular vote like she did, yet lost the electoral???? I am fairly conservative myself and prefer tradition. I am not a fan of all the weird labels and pc-speak that folks use like a wet blanket to deflect healthy debate or criticism. I do believe folks can try harder to tone it down, tolerate, and ignore. Myself included. I was told I was "gaslighting" and "invalidating my sister-in-law's existance" (amazing powers at my disposal). My crime? I only laughed and pointed out her vegetarian hypocrisy after she ordered a huge beef chimi at a Mexican restaurant. I probably should have just let it go, but was tired and she is one of those people who is always bragging about their next life-changing fad, and the controls I normally apply on my "inside words" failed. The wife was not happy, but it get's old. Was told she was still waiting for an apology. Not happening. I am ok with the labels
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WideNine replied to T master's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
This seems disingenuous considering your disparaging comments towards the Biden administration less than a week on the job. A unified approach to combating a pandemic will likely be appreciated by most state governors who formed bipartisan cooperative backchannels because of the lack of leadership from the Trump administration. Don't make me list all the lies he put forward about the pandemic, how he worked to capture our key federal healthcare organizations to supress and control the information. Everyone that exited his orbit said that his focus was always the messaging and marketing that would impact his reelection. If a few hundred thousand die along the way...meh, "I always wanted to play it down". https://apnews.com/article/c9f35842f7bb355be72842d15a8f7c02 -
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WideNine replied to T master's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Not sure if I should answer this as several independent studies do not back up your assertions. The US has several expensive yet better treatments that insurance companies refuse to cover. For example look at the litigation history of Mayo's proton beam therapy. Not even sure why you are trying to shoe-horn race into the discussion, but most studies have metrics that countries have to hit to rate their healthcare infrastructure higher. Are you asking why primarily non-white or non-asian nations are absent from those lists? I guess you would have to ask why each of those other nations have failed to build their healthcare infrastructure on a case by case basis. War, poverty, corruption...lack of education - there are a lot of probable factors. -
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WideNine replied to T master's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
There is some truth to this. Many herbal drugs are listed as dangerous, yet as soon as pharma's synthesize those active compounds (often x times stronger than how they occur in nature) they move to the realm of medicine. And as we saw with their abuse of oxycodone, they are quite willing to push an addictive and destructive drug for profits. Our own DEA saw what was happening and was blocked from taking action: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/investigations/dea-drug-industry-congress/ Your average drug dealer or supplier would spend most of the lives behind bars, but I don't think anyone at Purdue is facing time, just monetary fines. The company I worked for years ago had close to a 400 billion dollar war chest they had amassed just for paying and settling the fines they expected to have levied against them. Change can only happen by outing our political leaders who are lining their pockets and voting them out. Encourage candidates running for office to emphasize how they will not take money from healthcare lobbies. Punish those that do. It is not impossible, but you have to make the effort for change enticing to self-serving politicians and parties. That means having it affect votes and campaign donations.