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Folks keep missing the point that your Ends get more pressure when the QB has no pocket to step up into. With Suh and Vea able to crush the pocket Mahomes had to escape and slide left and right, where they pressured and hemmed him in well. Suh they also moved outside on plays and he was dominant there too. Mahomes struggles the most against pressure sans blitz. He knows exactly where to go with the ball when teams send the extra rusher. TB was able to pressure with their front 4 and contain the gap runs, their secondary harassed Kelce and bracketed Hill. I do think Barrett had a heck of a game, and it is kind of crappy how the Bucs treated him...trying to franchise him as a linebacker when they were using him as a DE. I think he only signed a 1 year deal.

I think Biden (at least) would have been more honest and transparent and up-front about the virus. He would have had a different approach. So there would have been less damage control and desperation for some political redemption (hail mary efforts I referenced) from the early misrepresentation, and the ridiculous made-up dates and promises by Trump that put the GOP and his revolving door administration in one awkward position after the next. From February to October, Trump declared at least 38 times that Covid-19 is either going to disappear or is currently disappearing. During that period the facts told a different story, the pandemic had steadily become worse. I also think Biden would have followed the science and Fauci's estimates on Pandemic projections and vaccine delivery timeliness rather than make up ridiculous rosey dates. Can't speak for any other hypothetical DEM (or GOP) administrations, just the recent exiting one and the current one. Does any political party NOT jump on the mistakes of the other??

This is true, not going to say that they did not pre-order doses. I think that was a desperate political Hail Mary that also just happened to be the right thing to do. The GOP was hoping for an early breakthru vaccine that they could rush through clinical trials and get out before the general election. An impossible time line really. Unless we ignored rules and testing protocols and tried our US version of a hasty maybe deadly "Sputnik" vaccine.

I know they lost their starting LT and that did hurt them, but much of the pressure seemed to come right up the middle on them from guard to guard. I don't think those were guys they lost playing us. Tampa was more aggressive and yet felt that they could stop most of the runs with their front 4 and get pressure. We can't do that with our front 4, we have to go man and bring extra rushers to try to create pressure, but our guys playing man don't match up with the better skill guys.

Bush Al Gore did not do enough to convince me he would have a strong military and foreign policy. Was never a fan of the Clintons going back to their Whitewater scandal days, but ol' Bill did not do a terrible job on the economy.

Sorry Doc, its true. There are far too many that go out of their way to try to revise history, and deflect blame for a Trump administration that was an abject failure on leadership, policy creation, and execution. He left a broken more divisive, less tolerant nation. He emboldened domestic white supremacist and anarchist militant groups. He catered to the most mentally vulnerable with lies, fear-mongering, and factless conspiracies. Weakened our geopolitical alliances and influence. Increased our national debt from 19 to 28 trillion dollars. Peddled lies to undermine our democratic systems and legitimate election, strong-arming his own party members in GA trying to get them to "find votes". Encouraged an insurrection that led to deaths putting Pence in the cross hairs of his radicalized cult. And yes, completely fumbled responsibly handling a pandemic. If a DEM administration had governed so incredibly poorly my vote would have gone elsewhere. ...

Not quite. The reason folks blame Trump's administration is rather than tell the truth and promote safe quarantine practices he worried about how it would negatively effect his reelection and lied. His administration's haphazard response was criticized, but he went to his usual playbook of blaming the Obama administration for not leaving any pandemic playbook. McConnell echoed the excuse, but it was a lie and what needed to be done was laid out by the prior administration (see below); he chose to wing it. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6819268/Pandemic-Playbook.pdf If any of you have the capacity to read more than a tweet worth of info, read the domestic response to an airborne pathogen sections. They are eerily exactly what we ended up doing, but far too late to prevent the US from having the worst response of developed nations. He and his GOP governors made mask-wearing synonymous with being on the political left. Partook and did nothing to discourage superspreader maskless events. A real leader would have told the American people what he knew, "it spreads easily thru the air", "we need everyone to work together wearing facial coverings and social distancing till we can stock up on needed equipment". Instead he lied and said it was just like the flu and they would have a vaccine soon. I do not get the twisting of the truth to paint a narrative where Trump and his administration did the right thing handling this pandemic. Had Biden botched this so terribly you can bet I would be calling out the epic failure.

Fake? Not sure you know or understand the legal definition of insurrection. Insurrection n : the act or an instance of revolting esp. violently against civil or political authority or against an established government ;also : the crime of inciting or engaging in such revolt [whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or against the authority of the United States…shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years "U.S. Code"]

Yeah, that was more than a bit out of line. If that's the best ignorant folks can do when they disagree is advocate something like that they need their meds, better education, and counseling on how to manage conflicts.

...and for the high crimes of firing someone in his own cabinet I believe. Standards then, and limits on Presidential authority were vastly different than today.

The fact that every time you point out the DC insurrection the blindly obedient Trump cult says, "....but, but what about the riots?" As if me, or anyone else, support rioters getting off the legal hook. He was the President, he should have acted like one instead of a spoiled rich boy who has never been told, "You lost, suck it up and get over it". Yes your predictably blind excuse-making for that glorified criminal carnival barker is painfully pathetic.

Thanks for not being predictable.

Nice retort. As much as I think there are policing issues and changes needed in this nation (there are). I also believe those changes go beyond the artificially narrow scope of politicized racism. ...and not every topic or political discussion needs to be drawn into that gravity well to stand on its own pros and cons merits. Not saying it is not worthy of discussion, just that some try too hard to shoe-horn it into every thread.

Fixed. Aquited by our Senate does not mean not guilty of everything he did to lie about an election he lost and then used as a pretext to foment a violent insurrection that killed people. Maybe folks should visit that DC cop's family and see how they feel about your orange conman getting off the hook.

Sadly, this is likely true for most of our elected officials. Regardless of party affiliation, Americans need to do a better job assessing candidate character beyond the inflammatory rhetoric and partisan talking points. Who would have thought that stuffing government vacancies with Ivy league lawyers and Harvard Business School grads would create a vacuum of morality and character 🤔 Then in typical fashion we have the backlash pendulum swing of voting in tinfoil hat-wearing der-t-ders. There has got to be a responsible middle-ground.

I see nothing incompatible with saying she has a revenge history AND saying she had no reason to lie about her superiors at the state telling her to manipulate the data. When the proof that her superiors did direct her to do just that eventually comes out in the wash, I will be not be surprised in the least. In fact, her not doing what they were demanding and being stubborn about getting her correct data public, fits her obsessive compulsive get-back-at-them profile. So it takes an expert to know you have 4000 reported deaths and those in charge are telling you to report a few hundred? Sheesh....maybe it does for some folks. Occasionally I do run across a conservative who is not a Trump cult, QAnon factless rabbit hole ideologue who can debate a topic well. There are too few.

Yeah.... Actually she is a data scientist, AND geographer. The kind of work she does and has done involves a lot of data mining analysis, and trending. You don't have to be a epidemiologist to crunch the numbers tracking Covid cases, rate of spread, and mortality rates. I have friends that do this work already as well as contact tracing. Data Science: Data science is an inter-disciplinary field that uses scientific methods, processes, algorithms and systems to extract knowledge and insights from many structural and unstructured data.[1][2] Data science is related to data mining, machine learning and big data Jones alleged that the Florida Department of Health pressured her to strategically align COVID-19 case data with Florida's goal to reopen the state. Now, what I don't get is the motivation for her to blow up her career for no reason; whereas there is motive for Florida's governor to want to open the state and keep it open. I don't think she is lying about being told to doctor the data. I also think she is wicked-smart and has a borderline psychotic revenge history that makes the idea of her exploiting the State's messaging system (hacking is a bit generous) to encourage others to blow the whistle plausible.

Impeachment? What a joke. The GOP has zero spine when it comes to holding Don the Con accountable for anything. An aquital because they cannot get enough GOP senators to find a conscience is not the same as innocence. In regards to responding to this thread, maybe you should have said, "This is a narrow discussion ONLY about Cuomo's staff not sharing Covid nursing home mortality data with the feds. No other opinions about Covid fact-hiding or data manipulation will be tolerated". Then I would post those intolerable bits of reality any way.

A pleasant mix of truth and stupid...kind of not surprised when someone's lyrical angst includes Eminem's position on anything. Never understood why anyone puts any stock into what entertainers have to say. They may be talented, but they can still be dumb as a rock. Generally put as much stock in their opinions as I do in those of my neighbor Jim.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but what about all the data and guidance manipulation Trump's people made continually through the pandemic. Prison on the table for them too? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-clyburn/u-s-lawmakers-say-trump-appointees-interfered-with-covid-19-testing-guidance-idUKKBN2A81VR How about DeSantis in Fla and his personal vendetta against the data scientist there because she wanted to show their real numbers? The crux of the issue is we had a psychotic narcissist in the WH who politicized the hell out of a pandemic because the timing of it was hurting his and GOP reelection bids. All the BS mismanagement of Covid-19 can be traced back to that. Not saying what Cuomo's team did was right, just that by turning a pandemic from a fact and science-based emergency our country needed to responsibly address, Trump and much of the GOP kept lying, and lying, and lying...

As far as the pass-pro win rate, I think cover 1 summed it up well, that as a unit our group generally excels. But when facing teams with an impact NT AND 3-tech they get exposed badly because our center can't help Mongo (who already is weak in pass-pro) double the 3-tech. Would be tough to double Jones with him in the B gap any ways. Mongo's initial kick step has to take into account Jones' speed and power outside which sets him up for the inside moves sans help. It all goes to hell pretty fast against those teams. Against the Rams with Donald we did a good job of doubling him and moving the pocket, but they are a 3-4 team and I think we scheme protections for those a bit better, though Donald still made some plays. Our run block win rate is not surprising watching the breakdowns that are out there.

I could see that.

Yes and no. Correlation is not causation. KC had plenty of success against us in just about every facet and from goal line to goal line. Tampa's LBs and front 4 matched up better pressuring, disrupting,, covering, and attacking KC's offensive scheme especially whenever they got near the red zone. What yards they gained getting close to the red zone is less relevant than what happened each time they were knocking on the door. KC drives: 1st half Punt FG Punt Punt FG 2nd half FG INT TOD TOD INT I would not lay a lot of the blame on our LBs, we need a LB that can match up better on TEs, but the crux of the issue starts up front from the NT out.

I am kind of in this camp as Hughes does get pressure, but sacrifices gap integrity and containing the edges. It comes at the cost of a lot of missed tackles. Still, not exactly a depth position on this team. Epenesa and Johnson may come on with more reps and time in the system. Having some veteran presence in the rotation will be needed as our youngsters grow into their roles.

But Bob, imagine how few pages we would have if threads did not have 2 sides with one saying "this", and the other saying "that", and the ones in the middle criticizing them both? Queue the tumbleweeds and lonely wind blowing. 😁