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I kind of get Beane’s reaction in the context of not spending significant draft capital to go after a WR1 type when our offense was so good last year and defense was not. We don’t have top end guys on the roster but we have decent veteran talent there and someone like Keon needs opportunities to grow into that guy (or prove he can’t). Our offense is built around our run game first whether fans like it or not. The part I don’t get is we only have four quality WRs. We’d have to really believe in Shavers who’s totally unproven as the fifth guy to think our depth is sufficient. Last year all it took was Samuel and Kincaid to get hurt and we were desperate. How is that not still a big threat?

Bills roster flexibility > Daquan's FA prospects. Teams take vets into camp and then cut them all the time. It's part of the business. If cutting Daquan is the only path to signing our draft picks, then ok, but it doesn't look like that's the case.

We can still make that decision at the end of Aug. In the meantime, what if our rookies just aren't ready. Jones might be the only decent option for the first half of the season. We won't know that part until camp.

Why would we do that without seeing what everyone looks like in camp? TJ and Deone (coming off a back injury) are rookies, and Carter is a projection until we see it.

Because he wasn't lining up at nose much in college. It looked like he spent as much time as a 3-4 edge as he did at nose, but mostly was a 3T. After watching more of his tape, I get it. I also get the Sanders pick from that perspective. We upgraded our Dline talent big time. God help opposing Olines on 3rd down. But...we still don't have a long-term answer at nose imo, unless you think Carter is that guy. Maybe we can convert Walker. I don't love the idea of taking a 6'7 guy with a thin lower base who's had back problems and deciding to line him up in the A gap every down. It feels like that might neutralize what he does best and potentially set him up for more injury issues. But again, maybe our strength guys can figure that one out. I don't mind taking a long-term approach here given the obvious talent, and even if Deone isn't the long-term answer at 1T our investment was low and we now have a lot of options for that answer to emerge from.

I do think we’re still missing someone that gets separation from the outside. We lost that with Diggs and I just don’t see it on the roster currently. I wouldn’t be surprised if we see a trade closer to training camp.

I'd way rather bring Mack back.

The next time I don't trust a late round DB selection by McD will be the first.

Speaking of QBs, what are the odds we look for a developmental guy with one of our picks in the 5th. I know Howard has his doubters but he was very successful at OSU.

It’s almost like Beane is trolling us. Even the 340 lb guy is another 3T. “I’ll draft a receiver when you get a girlfriend.” Seriously though, we needed all this Dline help. Hope it works out.

This just seems like too good of value to pass up even if I might've preferred help at WR. Hopefully, we can help this kid refine some moves.

You still missed what I was saying. I was talking about moving up five spots worst case for Alexander (or Turner or Norman-Lott) because we were live at pick 51 when I made that post, or just stick at 56 and take our pick of those guys rather than moving up to take Sanders. One might argue that Sanders will be worth that but outside of Collins, no DTs were picked between where we took Sanders at 41 and where Bears ultimately started the DT run at 62.

Why re-sign when we can just re-draft

i have to assume Beane is going to tell us Sanders will play some 1T. He line up there some in college.

That's not the whole trade which I'm sure you know but you also seem to have missed what I was getting at which is if we'd just held til now we might've been able to just draft Alexander at 56 or move up a few spots and take him and not have to move back 10 spots from 62 at all. Some might also argue Alexander will be the better player though I'd be inclined to trust Beane on that part of it.

This pick caused me to go look at our payroll, and it turns out we can get out of Ed's contract next offseason with the low low cap hit of only 21M. 😐 Edit: also, Darius Alexander is still available with six picks to go. This could become interesting if he falls that far, but either way, you don't need to give up your 2nd to move up six spots.

Oh boy. Trade up to take an undersized need pick. That usually doesn't work out well. Edit: double ouch on the trade specs

I don't think that's it. More like, fans are trying to get excited about the Hairston pick which looks like a legitimately solid pick, but for some it's harder to get as excited if they know Williams was actually our first choice and we just missed out.

Not sure why he would've said that if it wasn't true. Seems like we got a pretty talented DB though which we also really needed. The pressure to get a 1T next year in the 1st round will be much higher if we don't stumble into something.

I kind of like the FSU tackle Farmer. He's not as big as Collins but he's long and seems to have some tools as a rusher. This pick would depend on how Bills view Carter. I assume Alexander will be long gone by the time we pick.

Given the elite 1T options turned out to be pipe dreams, I'm still quite happy with this outcome. Having someone who can turn and run with guys from press is such an advantage even if you don't do it often. But even our base look off the line is way more dangerous now with Hairston's closing speed and ability to recover. This is one way to make our DL more effective in pass rush.

Harmon works too

Damn I guess the Grant dream is dead.

LFGooooooo Edit: we still need a starting boundary CB but I like Tre in a support role. Also, he makes sense to me as a FS in a pinch. Could a position switch be in the cards?

Seems reasonable. I was bracing for 4/100M so 4/78M feels like a decent compromise. I still think Benford has to improve at the line, and until he (or someone else) does we don’t really have a true CB1 shutdown corner.