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More or less, yes. The OP was based on someone watching the press conference but things were taken out of context. I don’t love the tweet because it’s also not an accurate representation. I believe it’s page 2 or 3 In this thread that I summarize all Morse related discussion from the press conference with McDermott today...

Spain isn’t in that category... I’m pretty sure Murphy isn’t either. Spain’s initial deal was a cheap 1 year deal and then the extension was less than $20M if I recall correctly. Star and Addison both received bigger deals.

Your OP is literally taking his responses out of context... Sentence #1 was from his final answer to question #3 at the 13:30 mark. Sentence #2 was not what he said at all... he said he wasn’t benched and that they evaluate their lineup week to week. This came from question #2 at the 8:30 mark. Sentence #3 was from his first answer that came at the 1:20 mark. I didn’t cherry pick anything... I laid out THE ENTIRE interview... with questions IN THE ORDER THEY WERE ASKED with McDermott responses. Do you not see how the way you put those together makes things look a certain way.. AKA cherry picked. The flow to the interview is important, the time spent answering each question is important, the order of which questions were asked are important. You keyed in hard in the “football decision” portion but failed to identify that McDermott said that IN HIS FINAL response to a question in which the reporter asked if it was a “football decision.” Football decision was used in the question, McDermott just used the question to answer his question. That’s something that I know for an absolute fact is taught by PR firms who work with athletes to answer questions... its a tactic McDermott uses often. EDIT: The reporters made it news because it seems somewhat controversial and it’s their job. I dated a media personality for over two years... we lived together... I watched her put together stories... I gave her input on stories. She was legitimately taught and expected to portray things in a certain way to generate interest. Take things that really are insignificant and blow them up to get people talking. We would laugh about it all the time because she would pick out insignificant portions of an interview and portray them as a significant part of the interview in order to get people talking. I would call her on it constantly and she would laugh and say “I don’t know what else to do, the rest of the story isn’t very interesting, this can get people talking. It’s what I was taught to do in school, what I’ve been told to do at the station. It’s not dishonest, it’s just focusing on something unconventional to get people talking... that’s my job.” Thank you, thank you and thank you!

My take is indeed valid. I’m literally doing EXACTLY what you’re doing (other than taking his responses out of context) and giving my interpretation of McDermotts 15 seconds worth of answers to 3 questions. You’re taking B from that answer he gave? That’s literally putting words in McDermott’s mouth. Mitch is a good player We had momentum with the group we had when he went out We wanted to see if we actually had something there or if it was a fluke We evaluate our lineup week to week Mitch wasn’t benched EDIT: And now this is me going off of my experience working with professional athletes and trainers... players may be cleared to play, which means they are healthy... but coaches can and do often err on the side of caution.. although they won’t necessarily outwardly tell the media that. McDermott has a track record of being vague...

You disagree, meaning you have a dissenting opinion. Well now that tells me McDermotts responses are open to interpretation and not as cut and dry as you were portraying them to be. We both watched the press conference, listened to his answers and came away with two different reads on the situation. The whole football decision thing was him literally regurgitating the term used by the reporter who asked him the question at the 13:30 mark. I mean seriously what does McDermott say here the is completely abnormal from things he has ever said related to lineup decisions? A) Mitch is a good player B) We wanted to take one more week to look at this combination C) He was not benched D) We determine the lineup week to week E) This relates to comment B about looking at the combination from last week... it wasn’t disciplinary it was a football decision

I was typing this before your last response LOL. I highly, HIGHLY encourage you to actually watch the press conference with McDermott. There were 3 questions posed when it came to Morse and McDermott spent about 15 seconds total answering those questions. They were asked at the beginning, middle and end of the interview. I’m paraphrasing but here’s how it went First question was that he was active but didn’t play, was he not healthy? This is around the 1:20 mark. McDermott responses by saying he was healthy, but it was a coach’s decision to not have him play this week, Mitch is a great player but they felt that they had momentum with the group from last week and wanted to see how they played together this week. Said they played well when Mitch went down and wanted to take a look at it one more week. Second question was someone clarifying the Morse question from earlier... they specifically asked if Morse was benched... this is around the 8:30 mark McDermott said he was NOT BENCHED. Quick follow up asked if Morse was still the starter. McDermott said the lineup is determined week to week... literally something McDermott says about every position group because he likes the idea of competition and maybe even the illusion of it. Final question around the 13:30 mark. Reporter asks if it was a disciplinary decision for something he did/did not do off-field or strictly a football decision. McDermott replied in 6 words and used the verbiage from the reporter.. “It was strictly a football decision.” I think this is being read into... I mean really he spent like 30 seconds answering these 3 questions and they’re such vague answers and really aren’t answers outside of McDermott answers and we’re creating a controversy here. EDIT: Look at all 3 comments.... he said the following A) Mitch is a good player B) We wanted to take one more week to look at this combination C) He was not benched D) We determine the lineup week to week E) This relates to comment B about looking at the combination from last week... it wasn’t disciplinary it was a football decision

Don’t be rude. I literally didn’t oppose that portion of it at all... I said he was healthy enough to be active and play in a pinch but not healthy enough to start. There’s a difference. McDermott is purposefully vague and every complains about it, now he’s vague and they’re trying to decipher what he’s saying as negative. EDIT: If you read more than just 1 tweet and cherry picked quote to create controversy you’ll see McDermott said more than this. He said it was a coach’s decision to rest Morse 1 more week and evaluate the combination they used the previous week heading into the bye.

My guess would be he cleared protocol and they didn’t intend on having him active to rest up going into the bye week. When they had all the COVID list adds it changed who they made active. I believe I saw that they had to shake up active roster decisions because of the positive test. He was healthy enough to play in a pinch but they felt better about giving him some time off? Morse will start the final 6 games of the season.

Signing Howard was the only mistake the elite Dolphins have made this year.

You lost me when you failed to string together a proper sentence to begin your post. Edit: You’re referencing the Chargers game from two years ago? Why is that relevant to the current version of the Buffalo Bills over 32 games later?

You mean like the Seattle game? McDermott has already changed his philosophy. He went from pound the rock and maintain TOP and eek out 17-16 wins against teams starting third stringers to running the ball 10 times a game and letting his QB go out and throw the ball 35-40 times. He’s literally already adapted and done what 90% of this stupid message board has been crying about for 4 years and now 7-3 with a division lead isn’t good enough and the sky is falling. The attention span and critical thinking of the majority of people who post on here is embarrassing. Let’s be real... you’d like for them to miss the playoffs so you can say “I told you so” McDermott’s style of coaching isn’t sustainable yet he’s been here for 4 years now and is on pace to make the playoffs for a 3rd time? Yet you’re banging the table for the job your boy Flores has done in Miami on the back on of ST and defensive touchdowns and THAT is sustainable? All of your posts are based on the premise that the Bills will collapse and under perform against inferior opponents... almost to the point that it’s a certainty... but then when it comes to the Dolphins it’s a certainty that they won’t collapse against inferior opponents and just as much of a certainty that they will beat superior opponents as well.

I’ve always found him very difficult to like. I wasn’t a fan of Diggs celebration on the field after the TD catch to put us up... with that being said I’m confident he would not have behaved this way in a press conference had it been the winning catch. Amazing play by Hopkins, he’s the best in the game. I know a lot of the skill guys tend to have this type of attitude because it sets them apart, they’re matched up 1 for 1 and have to have an arrogance to them... but I feel like talk like this should stay on the field.

Trolls gonna troll 🤷‍♂️ Your response is that of a 13 year old child.

Do you even know where William and Mary is? Or know where you are in general?

I wish I could react to this 100000x Great summation!

Oh yeah... and then the CBS panel must’ve had it in their script to gush about Murray at the half because well... his numbers were underwhelming and they spliced together some scrambles where he escaped sacks where he was going to lose 7-8 yards and instead lost 1-2 and then said how great he was. Then they flashed the stats and he had like 17 yards rushing... couldn’t help but chuckle. People need to wise up and realize the short little blurbs do a great job of telling the exact story the media wants you to know.

There’s a pretty large group of fans who hate the Bills. Find our fans to be obnoxious and the team/players to be insufferable. There was a fan poll that said Josh was one of the top 3 (I think) biggest whiners in the NFL. McDermott was also top 3 amongst coaches and the Bills overall were polled pretty high there as well. It is what it is... people also know Tua from Alabama and he’s the trendy QB to like... all they’ve been told for 3 years is Josh sucks... so they want to make fun of him when he comes up short.

Why the parenthesis and the quotation marks?

WOW! Announcers just talked about why Poyer AND Hyde are so important to our defense. Everything they listed, well, wasn’t a counting statistic. Funny how that all works...

I agree they mishandled the QB room with Josh early... I know they wanted to sign Fitz/McCown and it didn’t work out. They traded McCarron which defeated the purpose of bringing him in. Although, the whole mentoring thing is a little overblown IMO. You definitely need leaders in the locker room but it’s not always position to position. See Mario Addison comforting Josh after his grandmother passing. Josh seems to have developed just fine without a real veteran QB around the mentor him. Josh is Josh because he’s Josh. Point being, guys can learn how to do things the right way from guys who play different positions, ultimately it falls on the person who’s making the adjustments to actually make them. That Larry Fitz interview with Kim Pegula went into how Kurt Warner mentored him and in return he’s mentoring Kyler Murray in his own way. Josh was never going to fail because he didn’t have another older QB showing him the ropes. That’s what the coaching staff is for... if they’re not teaching a guy how to prepare that’s on them... it helps to have a player... but what we know about Josh... he was going to take care of it himself and absorb information from whomever gave it to him. He’s not the uncoachable type. Norman was brought in like Kevin Johnson to create completion for the CB2 role. Levi had his ups and downs last year but bringing in Norman was an attempt to elevate competition. I guess I’m more laissez faire when it comes to 1 year deals... I see them all as flier type deals. The market is limited each year, in terms of talent and talent at each position. You’re bringing in a guy to compete and if it doesn’t pan out there are no long term ramifications. If they do pan out, it helps you until you can find a long term solution. The whole current cap situation is WAY overblown... I mean seriously. Nobody coming in mid-season is going to be such a massive upgrade over the current personnel on any roster unless you’re trading for a real difference maker. It’s just way overblown. You spend money on guys and they get hurt or don’t perform... that’s the nature of professional sports. Looking at it from the lens of hindsight just doesn’t work. Otherwise, I agree wholeheartedly with you on the Panthers stuff. Really great point on the impact of signings from other teams... much better comparison for success.

Preach Hap! Very well put. I’d even exclude 1-year deals as well... it’s just depth. Anderson, Daryl Williams, Josh Norman. Low-risk and high-reward. Williams panned out, Norman didn’t. But the point is they’re not going to kill you if they don’t pan out. I’m pretty sure Anderson was in response to Allen’s partially torn UCL from the Texans game? I may be wrong... he was a signing so far off the beaten path I never really considered him a substantial investment. I think I said it before... in years 1-3 of McDermott they brought in 17 former Panthers... two of which remain in the organization... Star and Dean Marlowe. They also let Marlowe go for a bit and brought him back this season. It’s really been a ton of depth type guys until this year and even now there’s still only like 8 former Panthers in the organization. 3 of them are depth guys (Smith, Marlowe, Worley), 1 of them opted out of the season (Star), 1 has barely played (Norman) and the other three are Klein, Addison and Williams. Addison has been consistent which is his MO, Klein has been everyone’s whipping boy and rightfully so and people on this board are campaigning for Williams to get $10-$12M a year. EDIT: Oops forgot Vernon Butler.

What bad contracts are you referring to? Which picks has he dealt outside of our 4th this upcoming season that prohibited us from making a deal? There were like 8 trades at the deadline this year and about half of them were not difference makers. I’m confused as to what everyone thought Beane should do? Force someone to make a trade with him for less than the other team was willing to move that player?

Kyler Murray runs like a RC Car. There I said it, now you won’t be able to unsee it. You’re welcome!

I think they like Bates as a potentially RT option. Williams will be in the $8-$12M range on the open market. I don’t think he’s back, unfortunately. Awesome move by Beane and Williams has been great... my guess would be Beane just signed another Carolina O-lineman and crosses his fingers like he always does!

Yeah I saw this yesterday. It seems to me after looking at the information quickly that teams with winning records are in that “lucky” bin and teams with losing records are in that “unlucky” bin. There is very minimal crossover for a losing team winning more than they should and a winning team losing more than they should and in all of those instances it’s pretty close to being 0 difference. Which I find kind of odd... but it also supports the concept that teams in the NFL are all close in ability/talent and wins are hard to come by in the NFL... or something like that.