The Red King

While unlikely, the AFCE is still in play, so yes they have something to play for. As for this, the goal is *this* Super Bowl. NE doesn't care what the punishment is, so long as it's next season.

Not true. If both wild cards win twice, the Bills would host the other wild card in the AFC Championship game.

This post is not about the x and os. It's not about the draft. It's about culture, attitude, perception, and a team winning in situations they used to find ways to lose. Say what you will about how they are executing, and opinions vary, but you cannot deny a drastic improvement in culture.

Would Indy somehow squeek in if they got into a three way tie, perhaps? ?

Has to feel so strange to NE...going into week 16, and they still haven't won the division.

We can complain, and we can critisize...but at the start, if you were told the Bills would be 10-4, a game behind the Pats, and already clinched a wild card, we'd not just be happy. We'd be thrilled! Congrats, boys. Now go make a statement in NE.

Glad to see we took a shot to the end zone...oh, wait...

Getting a sick feeling here. Too many mistakes.

Apparently we forgot to tackle at halftime. That was pathetic.

No, it comes down to division record. The week 17 games would give the Bills the tiebreaker. Bills would be 5-1, Pats 4-2.

Strangely, tonight's game is meaningless in regards to the AFCE title. Win or lose tonight, BUF has to win their next two, and NE has to lose to MIA. Even if we lose tonight, the Pats don't lock up the east.

If we win tonght, we clinch a wild card. With the Titans' loss, would a win tonight clinch the #5 seed (barring winning the AFCE, of course)?

Disturbing trend with AB. Players trying to dictate where they go, looking to sidestep the system.

Miami has split with NE each of the last two years. A Dolphins win is unlikely, but not impossible. Dalton and the Bengals did us a solid two years ago, no reason to think they couldn't again. Not holding my breath, but not ready to completely write it off.

NE doesn't care. They want one last ring so everyone can ride off into the sunset happy. Any penalties given for this will take effect next season, after mission accomplished.

It's not just Josh, though. The offensive line was a sieve early on. All-around the offense looks out of sync until later in the game.

A lot of games this season it seems like the offense starts slow, then gets better until they click. Yesterday reminded me a lot of the New England game. I felt like if we had one more quarter, we could have won, given how they were playing at the end. Sadly, we did not have another quarter. We hit the field in shambles, and by the time we hit stride it was too late. And it's killing us. It's keeping us from rolling low-quality opponents early, and it's costing us dearly against the heavyweights. So, my question is, why do you think that is? Why is the Bills' offense stale at the start, and why does it take as long as it does each game for them to hit stride? Right now they're like a flourescent bulb, flickering intermittently until they finally hum to life some time later. Is it coaching? Weekly game plans? Personnel?

Nobody is assuming anything. We're discussing scenarios to win the division, that's all.

This is like a train wreck in slow motion. 1st and Goal inches away...ugh...

7 points off a fumble, 7 points gifted by the refs.

As pivitol a play as that was, why not challenge?

Whelp, refs just gave the birds the game.

Anyone still think our receiving corp is fine?

Knox misses a key block and now drops a key pass. Not a good game for him...

Before the draft, people were talking up Rosen. If he ended up lighting it up, we could discuss potential mistakes. Someone many draft experts thought was better was passed over. However, precious few people tagged Lamar as a star prospect. We took Allen over a qb many considered worse. Since McBeane did not have a crystal ball, no, this could not be called a mistake in any sense. That being said, I'm still happier with Allen.