The Red King

Lemmie change the phrasing. Had it not been for a last-second special teams debacle, he would have won a playoff game. Can't dispute that. We good now?

Point still stands. Had the ST covered the kickoff, which there is no excuse at all for ever not, he would have won a playoff game. Look, I think he was terrible. I'm not defending his overall performance at all. Just pointing out he should have won that game. And while his stats were terrible, he did lead the Bills on the last FG drive to take the lead. Again, guy was an absolute dud. Just giving credit where due.

Right, and we all say Josh won us that game and the D lost it. That's my point. For all of Rob's failings, and there were many, he at least had that playoff game won before the ST blew it.

Music City Miracle vs. Tenn. Had we simply covered the kickoff we would have won. And IIRC, Rob wasn't on the coverage team.

To be fair, Rob led the Bills to a road playoff victory. Sadly the Bills' Special Teams detoured them into a ditch at the last moment.

He thought Davis would clean up his drop rate and therefore be a perfectly good #2, so it's understandable. He was, sadly, wrong.

Bills will sign him on page 23^Z1. Bank it.

I think running is fine, gives the defense something else to worry about. But the rest, the hurdling, the bulldozing for an extra yard or two...yeah, that boy needs to learn how to slide.

No. He has key drops at the worst time. I don't care if someone has a 99% catch rate and 90 yrd avg per catch if they keep dropping the ones we desperately need and never fights for contested balls.

This is like going with your dad to the dealership for your first car, pointing to one, going "OMG, that one is amazing! I just gotta have that one, dad!" and leaving your poor dad to try and negotiate a deal with the salesman who just overheard everything.

Weren't people already saying last off-season that Davis would obviously improve his drop-rate issues this past season? 🤔

Again, a player is not a suit. It is not set at a fixed price and available to walk in and buy at any time. If, say, Hopkins simply did not want to play in Buffalo for some reason, there is literally nothing Beane could do to get him here. Should he be fired for that, should that happen?

There is a player involved in the process. You can't just say "Look, I'm a great GM so you're gonna join MY team and for THIS much money!". Also, the salary cap is a thing. If your post was sarcastic, then I apologize. It does seem over the top.

So...people are really fighting over which rumor reporter is more credible in this case? Well, this rumor is true because this guy...but no, your guy is a hack, so my guy's rumor must be true, not yours.

Danggit, was going to say the same thing. XD

I might be remembering wrong, but was NE's QB a serious power running threat?

Never said he was this big game-changer. Just saying if he can do what Josh can do, then defenses will be forced to respect that and deploy a defense that can defend against both, rather then focus strictly on Josh. It's like having a superstar defensive end paired with a sub-par end. The O-Line can double-team all day with no fear. Now, pair that same star with a good/great end and it becomes a problem. Yes, the star will be getting most of the attention, but the other end will need to be at least respected, and can go on a tear if not given enough attention.

Why not both? Seriously, it's nicer to have two options in that situation so the opposing defense can't just focus 11 players and 3 cheerleaders on Josh.

We needed a back that can pound it in from short range. We got one, and didn't burn a draft pick on him. Our O-Line still needs shoring up, we need a MLB and a WR2. We also could really use anything resembling a pass rush from someone who's initials are not VM. The more holes we fill now, the fewer we'll have in the draft and the more selective we can be with our picks. I like this signing.

Let me sum this up. OP maintained that any and all current negative feelings and evaluations are the direct result of the Cincy game and only the Cincy game. The replies here prove that as patently false. A lot of people here saw and spoke about the cracks in the foundation, and were blasted for pointing them out.

Beane is likely just patiently waiting for OBJ's other options to dry up so he can swoop in with a cheap prove-it deal.

Remember, some posters started pointing these out as early as the GB game. Those same posters got laughed and yelled at, with the familiar mantra of...well, we're 10-3, 11-3...and so on, as if having that record had to mean we were flawless. And the things those posters were pointing out as concerns were the exact same things Cincy used to wreck us. So no, in a number of cases people are not basing their own opinions on one game. They saw it coming and got shouted down for speaking up.

Give Mahomes the Buffalo "Red Carpet" O-line and then we can fairly compare him to Allen.

His hands weren't tied. He could have mentioned his top 3 and include his old QB. He chose not to. I think that's why some people are salty. It's not the "#3", it's the intentional omission.

Again, for the hundredth time...Frazier gets more flak because he's been around a lot longer and has a greater volume of work to hold against him. The Bengals game was far from his first playoff disaster. Nobody thinks the offense was fine, but it was helmed by a first year OC.