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Yeah, credit to Detroit's defense stepping up and making some plays but this is maybe the worst Baker has played as a Buccaneer. It's mostly just boiled down to him being very inaccurate tonight.

My best guess is that NY corrected the spot of the ball and the refs basically said as a result, there's nothing for Detroit to challenge. They basically just wasted all our time for nothing.

Horton has been one of my guys for the last two years too. I admittedly do not think I have as good an eye for receivers as I do QBs though lol.

I thought the two stats below were pretty interesting: Even over the past three weeks when our offense has fallen off, we're #2 in the league in success rate. Just hasn't translated into points due to the turnover regression. Despite our defensive woes this season, we're #2 in the league in generating pressure on the QB. It's just that any time we don't get pressure on the QB, we're getting absolutely gashed.

I would have liked to double dip in 2024 (though the guys I really wanted to double dip with were Troy Franklin and Javon Baker and I think he's already out of the NFL at the moment; he was on Philly's practice squad for a minute but I think got dropped). Realistically, let's say we double dip somewhere in the 3rd-6th rounds. The guys that went in that range are: Malachi Corley - cut Jermaine Burton - 0 snaps this year Roman Wilson - Playing around 10% snaps on a WR needy Steelers team Jalen McMillan - hasn't played yet this season, didn't really do anything until guys ahead of him got hurt and he'll be returning to a WR4 or WR5 role Luke McCaffrey - playing almost 40% snaps this season, starting to pop a little Troy Franklin - starter and drawing targets but incredibly unproductive Javon Baker - cut Tez Walker - 50/50 chance he plays 0 snaps in a given game this season Jacob Cowing - been out due to injury the whole year Anthony Gould - has played a couple snaps Ainias Smith - cut Jamari Thrash - playing 30-40% of snaps for inept Cleveland offense Bub Means - out for the year Jha'Quan Jackson - cut Malik Washington - starter for the Dolphins Johnny Wilson - out for the year Casey Washington - has played decent amount of snaps for Atlanta Tejhuan Palmer - 0 snaps this year Jordan Whittington - starter for the Rams Ryan Flournoy - had that one game Again, would have loved to double dip, but the likelihood that would have saved us is 0%. Of the 20 guys that went in that range, you're talking about 5 or 6 that appear to be playable depth pieces and no difference makers thus far. The real issue is we made a fairly significant trade for Cooper, took Coleman just outside the 1st round, and signed Curtis Samuel and Josh Palmer to fairly significant contracts (not huge but they were our biggest free agent signings of the last two offseasons) and none of those shots have panned out for us so far.

The results to this poll are absolutely insane lol

Jennings would be a hilarious outcome for the "we're missing a speed element" folks. He might be the slowest WR in the NFL (good player though).

I guess I'm just not sure why the Raiders would trade their young WR who seems to be kinda blossoming this season unless we overpay of course.

MVS himself is a free agent if I remember right too isn't he? Or did he catch on somewhere after Seattle cut him? Also wouldn't be surprised if the "solution" is simply for Gabe to get healthy and come back as our vertical spacing guy.

I do think Pearsall is clearly a better player that's just struggling with health. Worthy is more on par. But yeah, a bunch of the other options have been nothing to this point. I imagine we were locked in on getting an X receiver and I think Coleman has clearly been the best of that bunch to this point. Not saying much though. And this is ignoring the flawed logic about who can play out wide in 2025 IMO.

Short of trading for a top 15 type WR, which I simply do not think is in the cards, what exactly are people looking for here? Because for example, Jakobi Meyers is obviously a much better player than someone like Tyquan Thornton, but if you're just looking for someone that can line up out wide and put deep pressure on the secondary, Thornton is a much better option. Guys like Thornton can be scooped cheap pretty easily. We've even already gone that route with guys like MVS but Josh struggled to connect with them. If you're looking for more than just a deep threat, things get trickier. You'll probably want to look at teams that have a lot of receiver depth. Like maybe one of the Colts WRs could be had if they want to open up more playing time for Mitchell (or Mitchell himself could potentially be available for the right price). Maybe you look at Tampa like Godwin or something (though their depth is REALLY being tested right now with their injuries). Probably a few other teams that likewise have receiving talent to spare.

To be fair, that could simply be because guys like Beasley and Diggs are good and guys like Benjamin and Holmes are bad lol. Perhaps a good contested catch type of guy would do well with Josh. At any rate, Keon has been okay so far for us. Feels like hes trending towards not being what we hoped for but of the 5 WRs that were taken right around him, I think 2 have been definitively better, 2 have been definitively worse, and 1 has been about on par regardless of having differing skillsets and whatnot. I think his potential as an outside contested catch guy and a run blocker does make him a fairly valuable prospect, but it seems like the "it" thing that's trending right now is WRs that can play anywhere and particularly find soft spots over the middle. That's the McConkey types and Coleman is not that. But he can still be good; we'll see. Needing to be disciplined multiple times in 2 years doesn't feel like a good sign though.

I think there's a chance Dallas could manage a winning record but 11/12 wins feels like it would require a miracle. Dak has been arguably the best QB in the league this season though. Baker, Darnold, and Stafford have been pretty spectacular as well

It didn't really look like it in the first half, and granted a lot of their games have been against some bad teams, but Jacksonville's defense has played pretty well so far this year. The Walker/Hines-Allen pairing has really blossomed and some of the new faces on the back 7 have been really nice pickups like Jourdan Lewis.

If we're playing this game, the WR dropped that pick first. Jags have moved the ball pretty well so far. Just the brutal turnover on downs at the goal line.

Assuming most people that see this post already know, but Charlie Kirk is confirmed dead.

He's got some real issues to work on but he's one of those guys I feel like you can't help but root for. Feel like last night's game showed pretty much all the pros and cons that I saw when I scouted him at Michigan.

If Josh was outside of the pocket, illegal contact basically doesn't exist (and it is very close but I think he may have been out of the pocket). Even if he was still inside the pocket, I think you could argue the contact doesn't rise to the level of illegal contact but ultimately I think they got this call right, or at least I think it's close enough that it could go either way and be justified.

I wouldn't even say he missed the last throw; it's just a really tough throw to make and he put in a place where Lamb could make the (difficult) catch and it didn't work out. Dak had a very good game. I think there's a reasonable argument that Dak was the best player on the field last night.

Looks like the site is still up and working for me. Only thing I really use it for is the Washington Mystics because DC charges like $400 to watch the local teams here and I ain't doing that when WNBA League Pass is like $10 lol

I did skip a couple years, but I think Trask is still holding it down as my lowest rated QB prospect that I've watched over the last 10 or so years (tbf, I generally only watch the top 8-10 QBs each year. Surprised he held on in Tampa as long as he did.

Cardinals - legitimately great look IMO Patriots - cool shade of blue and silver at least Bills - think these look better up close than they will on TV because of the tiny detail on the shoulders Jets - Eh. Seahawks - At least they didn't just spam black like the bottom three. Rams - Lame. Dolphins - Lamer. 49ers - Not even really a new jersey for them.

Baker in particular was a draft crush for many including myself.

I would say relative to the hype/where they were drafted: Harrison - disappointing but promising still Nabers - hit Odunze - disappointing, could go either way still Thomas - hit Worthy - need to see more, but pretty promising Pearsall - need to see more, but pretty promising Legette - need to see more, could go either way (lean disappointing) Coleman - need to see more, could go either way (lean promising) McConkey - hit Polk - bust AD Mitchell - not enough snaps to really say and disaster QB situation Corley - bust Burton - not enough snaps to say, lean bust Roman Wilson - getting some camp hype this year but TBD McMillan - promising rookie season McCaffrey - not enough snaps to say, lean bust That's all the top 3 round guys. Outside the top 3 rounds, Franklin is getting some camp hype this year, Devaughn Vele had a strong rookie season relative to draft position, and Jalen Coker was very promising as an UDFA guy off the top of my head. At any rate, I feel like that's a pretty strong start for the class. If Harrison and Odunze both end up being busts that would be a pretty big whiff on both but I don't personally see that being the case.

Cowboys writers have been going off about how stupid it was to trade an asset for him given how bad he's looked throughout camp/preseason. There's a ceiling there for sure but I would take a veteran like Trubisky over Milton every single time given where our team is right now.