MrEpsYtown

I really am interested to see some comparison of Davis Webb to some of the guys in this draft. I know he feel to the third last year. If he were in this draft where would he rank? That should have some effect on the Giants thinking.

Is it weird that the PED stuff doesn't really bother me in football but I absolutely hate it in baseball? I think most of it in football is guys trying to get back from injuries ala Andy Pettite. It is not straight cheating in my mind. I know i'm wrong but I just feel differently about it.

They say this stuff every year and it never happens, but we shall see. That would be pretty crazy if it did.

To me that is a good problem to have. You trade the young guy and get what you can.

Gotcha. I think they will do their due diligence and vet these guys. My issue with Rudolph is teh lack of upside. I see very little difference between him, AJ McCarron, Nate Peterman...yet people want to use a 1st round pick. I just don't get it.

Not sure they are going to SB Nation for their info. This guy is not a first round pick. 3-4 range who could turn out to be average. Has very little to no upside.

I think judging centers is really hard. I don't know a whole lot about Bodine. To really understand a center's job you have to know which protection is called etc etc. What I do know is we only got one sack against the "terrible" Bengals O-line and just 2 sacks in two years. I know people who analyze these films and stuff for the internet are, for the most part, good at what they do. I don't put a lot of weight on their center grades just because the center has such a complicated job and you would have to know the game plan and protection scheme. Protections can be rather complicated depending on the front and who you are sliding to and such. I'm not sure some guy at PFF would be privy to that information. I suppose it is good competition for Groy. I still don't understand why they didn't try Groy at RG. Also Newhouse has some experience at guard as well. Could we see him kick into guard where his pass protection woes might not be as bad?

So you're saying he does his homework?

He was on IR because of a bad concussion. He was recovered and then had a set back, so I figure it has something to do with that. But if he wants to play and is recovered we should give him a shot.

Two guys I targeted as possible cuts this off season were Shea McClellin and Allen Hurns! Now they are available! I'm so excited and I am getting ready for a let down.

We've talked about this before and some people agree with me, but I really think McDermott shelved the idea of taking a quarterback until he had his own GM and scouts etc in place. Why would he make such a huge decision with Whaley and his scouts when he knew Whaley was gone after the draft? This is the year for the quarterback.

Dorsey owes us one. Maybe there is a wink wink nod nod there. Maybe that's why we got a third for Tyrod?

There it is! That's my guy. Been harping on him for 2 months. He's the perfect #2. He's been inconsistent, but he's good.

Jeremiah is an idiot. What a loser. He knows nothing. He forgot to put Mason Rudolph on there!!! Riot and rabble rabble rabble. Can't he see the noodle arm and the tiny hands makes him exactly like Tom Brady! Anyway this an interesting list. I am very surprised with Darnold at the top honestly, as well as the placement of Mayfield. This only fuels my passion to go and get Rosen!

This is great analysis man. But you are comparing these guys to Preston Brown, which again makes sense. On paper, Minter and Brown are very similar, 2 down thumper linebackers. On paper Preston is very different from Compton. I don't understand what is wrong with comparing. Good work.

Nope he posted it has to live with the consequences!!!! LOL

As long as they are getting Rosen or Darnold in this draft, I don't care what they do.

This is true. It's only a problem if depth winds up starting at WILL and losing Ben Koyack on the goaline in the playoffs!

Fine for a vet minimum deal. I get the impression that they don't love Matt Milano, which makes me question their sanity. Again, I trust the process, but Humber playing when Milano was clearly better, giving carres to Mike Tolbert, and rolling with Jordan Mills and Ducasse just seem like such poor decisions. I really was okay with every decision they made last year even the trades and the Tyrod benching. But playing those guys seems nuts. If Humber is back as a special teams only player fine, but if he sees significant time on defense, there is a problem.

100%. And Cam was getting utterly destroyed in the pocket. Again my biggest concern with McBeane is how they are going to build the offensive line and what they do at quarterback. I like what they have done on defense, but our offense doesn't look so good on paper. I hope Daboll makes a huge difference.

It's not expensive at all. If we can move to 2 without giving up next year's first, it's a huge win guys.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/19/report-patriots-release-shea-mcclellin/ I've been thinking McClellin would be released by the Pats for some time now. If anyone reads my posts, I have mentioned him numerous times. Now I preface this with saying the dude is coming of a missed season that he spent on IR. He sustained a pretty serious concussion in the preseason and never seemed to recover fully. He may have tried to come back and suffered a setback. So obviously, if he isn't healthy he should retire. If he's okay and cleared to go, he is the perfect fit for what we do. McClellin is a former, over drafted first round pick who kind of blew up the combine. He projected as 3-4 OLB and he was drafted as a hand in the ground defensive end. Chicago jerked him around, moving him from DE to SAM to MIKE then to ILB in a 3-4. He never really got a chance to settle in. I wanted us to sign him when he was a free agent a few years ago, but the Pats signed him. Anyway, he has McDermott and process written all over him. He is extremely versatile and he was used that way with the Pats. He could line up at any linebacker position and could rush the passer on third downs. I think he'd be a great fit at the MIKE for us. He is a leader and a Super Bowl Champ. 6-3, 250, and runs a 4.6 forty. At only 28 years old, if healthy, the former Boise State Bronco makes sense (especially as a placeholder for another Bronco in LVE). I hope he is healthy and I hope we bring him in for a look-see. I like Compton and I'm okay with Minter for depth, McClellin is significantly better than both of these guys and has some intimate knowledge of the Pats.

I think it's only natural to compare potential new guys to the guy they are replacing no? This seems normal to me.

I think we are fine yes. They are all going to be quite cheap imo

I think that is just the way things are with free agency now. I don't think any of those guys who signed early took visits. I do like that Beane said they watched every single one of his throws. They did their homework on the type of player he is, and set a value. I love this approach. Also, they mostly likely met him in combine interviews years ago. It isn't perfect, but I think that's the way of free agency now.