MrEpsYtown

Fair enough. I definitely think we draft someone, but I don't think it makes any sense to reach on this guy. I feel like there is a huge drop off between the top 4 (I know you don't like Allen) and Jackson and Rudolph. Then there is another drop off in that next tier. My question is, is the drop off between, say Rosen, Darnold to Rudolph bigger than the drop off between Rudolph and guys like Falk, White, Lauletta. To me it is. Rudolph is much closer to that lower tier. I just can't take Rudolph in the first. I think it is terrible process and an awful use of assets.

I agree as well. The problem is that Rudolph, to me, doesn't fix anything. It just adds a guy. If you are just adding a guy, why do it in the first round? I think the position only gets fixed if we get one of those top guys, otherwise we are just spinning wheels.

I know you do a significant amount of study so I value your feedback. So I'll ask, how much better is he in your estimation? Does he move the needle? Is he that significant of an upgrade that we need to go and draft him the first round. To me these guys are both middle pack, possibly average to below average starters. He is not a first round talent.

I understand inflation and overpaying for upside. All of those guys are clearly top 15 picks, so drafting them in the top ten is not a huge reach. Taking a 3-4th round pick at 12 is what gets people fired. Its drafting EJ Manuel in the first, its drafting Cody Kessler in the third. Its lunacy.

Here is the issue....This guy is not better than AJ McCarron and his upside is pretty much the same as Nathan Peterman. He does not move the needle, so it makes no sense. His ceiling is probably something slightly below Andy Dalton and his floor is Bryce Petty. His most likely outcome is Brandon Weeden/Landry Jones. That just isn't getting it done guys. If he is there in the third, fine. This franchise needs a true, high ceiling, franchise quarterback, not some middle of the pack guy. We just got rid of one of those and have two on the roster. Darnold or Rosen. Even Allen or Mayfield. Not this guy. Even Jackson has a huge upside in comparison to Rudolph. If you aren't getting one of the top guys, don't bother. Beane strikes me as a guy who is not going to draft a quarterback just to draft one. He is not likely to overdraft a 4th round pick either.

It does really suck. I'm not sure what the answer is. It seems like there is quite a bit of emphasis put on the private workouts.

This. He is terrible and just leads to the same quarterback purgatory. The fit makes no sense either. The only thing he does well is he throws a great deep ball and we have no speed. Sounds like a great match. Bad footwork, weak arm, pee wee offense and the smallest hands of all the quarterbacks in the draft. Sign me up for mediocrity. He's a nice guy and a leader. So was Kellen Moore. So was Christian Ponder. So was Kevin Hogan, who everyone was making fun of yesterday. He simply does not have he physical ability. Besides being tall, he does not fit anything that Beane has said he wants in the quarterback. I predict that whoever drafts him him will allow him to seek a trade in 3 years and we will all laugh at it ala Kevin Hogan. We will be talking about all the people who wanted him so bad, and no one will step up to say that they were wrong.

Paup is the man I would hope LVE becomes our poor man's Urlacher...Bob Babich is doing his intro speech for the HOF. Since we are o close with the Bengals, here is a pretty good breakdown of LVE: https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/3/26/17083828/nfl-draft-2018-are-the-brian-urlacher-comparisons-too-much-for-leighton-vander-esch

Agreed. The guy can play. He is definitely better than Gaines to this point. He also allows us to do some more things, maybe some more man and press and things of that nature. I really like the look of our secondary on paper, but injuries be damned!

Strahan is pretty good. I'd actually really love to hear Chris Canty do some color commentating. I love his stuff on the radio and could see him being the MNF color guy. He has a good voice, fresh analysis, and isn't a homer.

Now if they could remove him from IR in Madden, I can actually use him.

Feels pretty good to break someone else's soul for a change

Those Hawaii jerseys are pretty flava though. And "Salas" looks cooler than "Chang."

Darnold or Rosen

Ehh

Grabbing his crotch for the Cowboys fans who boo the **** out of him, probably not a great look. Better to stay home.

#14 is available for Darnold now

A warning for those who want to fall in love with flawed prospects like Hogan. He was hyped as having these great intangibles and ridiculous stats etc etc, but he was flawed and here we are. Mid round quarterbacks are more likely to become Hogan than Brady.

Man this guy hasn't changed a bit. Still making excuses and blaming others. I mean seriously....Isn't one of the first steps coming to terms with the fact that you have a problem and you have to fix it, taking responsibility for your actions? Loser. I'm curious to see if they would come out and admit it

Smith, Vander Esche or Edmunds. Any of those three would be perfect for the middle of the defense. I also love the way Billy Price plays.

Deion is like "who the hell is #31? WTF?"

I think Beane is going to look for post draft cuts at reciever. I'm sure we will draft one at some point as well. I think quarterback and middle linebacker are greater concerns. I think that KB is much better than the injured, "I have to play with a guy who can't throw" version of KB we saw last year. And they obviously expect a different season from Zay Jones in year two.

Would definitely give McCarron a run for his money for "guy with douchiest tattoos." But yeah this guy looks interesting as a late round flyer type guy to develop. Certainly looks to have some tools.

The Allen thing is a little weird. Could a be a smokescreen trying to the Browns to take him. Maybe it is really who they like. It is too hard to know. As long as they can get up in front of the Jets and get the guy they want, I will be happy. I still think they want Darnold or Rosen which was the early, pre smokescreen chatter and they fit the profile Beane has been talking about for awhile now.

I think Beane's approach is to offer all of these guys minimum salary. Leaving the offer on the table and letting them try to find something better. I feel like that is what happened with Compton and why he wound up with Tennessee. I'm guessing there is a deal on the table for guys like Minter, Dansby etc and they are still out there gauging interest. I like the approach at this point. Fede probably saw nothing else out there and circled back quick. At the end of the day I have already typed way to many letters about Fede.