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Yep huge oversight. Thank you

Hancock played some safety in college, and at 6-0, 195 I think he has excellent size. And yeah it's a projection but with the way Beane spoke about him and where he was drafted, he is safe. Sure it's speculation, I am saying it's a guarantee. Hamlin and Lewis are garbage, bottom-of-the-roster players who no one else in the league would roster aside from us, and I base that on the fact that when they were UFAs there was zero traction. Additionally, we have a new special teams coordinator, so whatever goodwill those guys earned with the previous coordinator is gone. They are starting from the bottom IMO, just like Hancock, and he is younger and more athletic. All my opinions, obviously, but I want to see us get younger and more athletic in a number of spots, and those guys are very replaceable in my mind.

Yeah i put him on my 53 at the expense of Hamlin. Hancock is making the team was my point. And yeah we like Lewis, but he's been a free agent and it's nothing. If we cut him, he makes it to the practice squad 100%.

Since everyone is doing it, here is where I am... Offense - 25 QB - Allen, Trubisky (2) RB - Cook, Johnson, Davis (3) FB - Gilliam (1) TE - Kincaid, Knox, Hawes (3) WR - Shakir, Coleman, Palmer, Samuel, Moore, Shavers (6) OL - Dawkins, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Brown, Anderson, Grable, SVPG, RVD, Lundt (10) Defense - 25 DT - Oliver, Sanders, Walker, Carter, Jones (5) Edge - Groot, Bosa, Jackson, Epenesa, Solomon (5) LB - Benard, Milano, Williams, Ulofosio, Andreesen (5) Corner - Benford, Hairston, Johnson, White, Strong, Ingram (6) Safety - Rapp, Bishop, Hancock, Forrest, (4) Specials: Bass, Camarda, Ferguson I don't know what happens when Ogunjobi and Hoecht come back. I think there is a chance Jones gets cut post June 1. I could see Epenesa traded as well. I could see Gilliam and Shavers being cut for other positions. I could also see Lundt getting cut. Hancock is making the team. I also feel pretty strongly that Strong does as well. In my world, Moore returns punts and Johnson/Davis return kicks.

Just based on where he was drafted and how Beane spoke about him, Hancock is making the team. Both Lewis and Hamlin as well as Dane Jackson would easily make the practice squad if cut. As we saw in free agency, nobody wants those guys.

Super excited about him as well. He makes plays

On the punter thing, call me crazy but I like Camarda. He is crazy athletic and gets rid of the ball quickly. Punters seem to do better in their second stop anyway. Beane specifically talked about how much they liked him pre draft a few years ago. It's his job to lose IMO. Robbins is a nothing burger to me. The punter competition to watch around the league is Ryan Stonehouse vs Jake Bailey in Miami. The Dolphins brought the Titans special teams guy over and the first thing they did was sign Stonehouse. The Bills had a chance to sign him, maybe they had no interest, but he went to a place with an established punter, which I think is telling. I do think the Bills would be in on Bailey if released. I hope that Camarda lives up to his 4th round pick draft status, lights it up and we have a cheap guy for the foreseeable future.

The 2023 highlights dude is all over the place.

Athletic article: The Bills used their first five choices for defense. After the draft, Beane went on offense by ripping critics who thought Buffalo should have done more to address the receiver position (the team waited until the seventh round to select one and later signed Elijah Moore). Reactions from executives fell into two categories: • Let it go: “Reading and listening to everything that is said about your team and collecting receipts is exhausting. Let it go.” • More power to ya: “If it was anybody but a handful of GMs, I’d say that is bad form, but he has walked the walk, and he has backed it up. When you do that, you earn that. Their fan base and media are a little spoiled. Don’t forget how bad it was before.” The second exec thought the Bills’ receiving corps is better now than it was last season, when Buffalo fielded the NFL’s second-ranked offense by EPA per play, per TruMedia. But this draft was all about defense. “They got a fast corner for the first time maybe ever,” an exec said of first-round choice Maxwell Hairston. “He is maybe the most athletic corner in the draft, a potential No. 1 corner. Anybody would take that kid, no matter what, because of the speed.” The huge influx of personnel on defense points to a youth movement. The unit’s average age on a snap-weighted basis dropped from third oldest in 2023 to 13th oldest last season. By comparison, Buffalo’s primary AFC rival, Kansas City, has fielded one of the five youngest defenses by that measure in recent seasons. Third-round pass rusher Landon Jackson will be a player to watch. The fit in Buffalo could be better than elsewhere. “They figure they are going to be ahead in most games and play in sub all the time, so he becomes a designated pass rusher for them, which makes sense,” an exec said. “The miss factor for him would be if a 3-4 team tried to make a case for him.” https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6324247/2025/05/01/nfl-draft-2025-afc-teams-browns/?campaign=13401462&source=athletic_targeted_email&userId=25693940

I would say his size and athleticism are interesting traits he has. He doesn't really know how to access them well and hopefully he can tap into those things. You are right that his speed isn't improveable, but the speed at which he plays the game is. He needs to work on his releases, footwork in and out of breaks, and his timing. Coleman reminds me of Josh a bit. He's risk reward. The elephant in the room with Josh was that you can't improve accuracy, but he did it with a bunch of tweaks to his process and finding the right coaches. While Coleman will likely never run a faster forty, there are a ton of things he can do to improve his game. The questions to me are 1. Is he going to find the right coaching to fix him? and 2. Is he willing to put in the work to do so? If he just tries to live off his athletic ability, he will never amount to anything.

Moore and Josh Palmer were St. Thomas Aquinas HS teammates in Florida during the 2016-2017 season. So that is another connection on the squad.

He’s right though. If you are going to pay Josh and Shakir and Benford and Bernard and Oliver and Dawkins etc it can limit what else you can add. It’s why the Niners had to trade Deebo Samuel and gut their roster, becuase they have pay the QB. It’s why the Chiefs had to trade Tyreek Hill and lose free agents every year. I didn’t take it as blaming Josh’s contract really. He’s saying you can’t have everything when you are paying a qb the way they are, and he is right.

No risk. Good move. There is untapped potential. Guy has something to prove. If he complains you cut him and he probably never gets another job. I think he will play nice for a year to parlay a big contract playing with Allen. Hired gun to try and help us win a championship. If I’m the Bills I use him as a punt returner as well.

I dont think the comp pick thing matters on the Bills end. We are not in line for any picks at the moment. Currently minus 1.

Yeah I agree with that. I was the Niners in our mock draft and I traded up for him. In my research it seemed they were all over him.

I think there is no doubt Rapp and Bishop start. Whether we like that or not, it certainly seems like what they want. I never want to watch Hamlin out there again, and Lewis becomes expendable with Hancock. Forrest is interesting, but yeah, I would like to see one more guy added for depth at the very least.

Meachem is probably hanging with Bryant Johnson somewhere.

I think they gave it to Robbins the punter. Maybe Jackson will have to buy him a bucket of wings.

Well, all the people who want a hulking nose tackle will probably teach them bite the ball head across and chicken wing blocking and all that old school garbage. There is so much new technique and teaching, Seahawk tackling rugby style stuff that makes the game so much safer, and that is in addition to all the helmet science. If the coaches in youth in your town are no neck losers with barbed wire tattoos, beware. But if you have knowledgeable coaches who are open to learning new things, the game is safer than ever. I'll be the bad guy here, but to me if your kid wants to play football and you would not let your kid play football, you should not be allowed to be a fan. You would be contributing to the eventual death of the game you allegedly love.

Ok gotcha. I did not know. Maybe it's his last chance? I guess most people never change

Sure I guess. I would assume he has matured in that instance since he just did two years of purgatory in Cleveland, and it does not sound like there were any issues there. I don't think the Bills would bring him in for a visit if he were still having those issues. In addition, he was right as Mike LaFluer was awful with the Jets and a complete joke. But I guess we shall see what happens.

Latu is pretty interesting. Doesn't look super fast but looks huge, could be an interesting development on the practice squad guy.

Makes a ton of sense. I think that's the kind of salary he should be in line for. MVS signed for 1 year 4 million, Mike Williams 1 year 3 million. I think somewhere in that range is fair.

It's about scheme and player type IMO. The Bills don't always draft the best player on paper, they draft guys that fit what they want to do. And I guess that is why we see misses and things of that nature. I think it's a lot of luck, but teams like the Ravens just draft athletes, arm lengths, sizes, injury reg flags, and off field stuff be damned, and that's why it seems like they hit more often than others, I think they just have different standards than a team like the Bills who have very specific types they are looking for. The Bills are the picky guy at the bar at 3 am who may go home alone. Teams like the Ravens always seem to get lucky because they are open to anything.

So there are 2 huge differences between Hamler and Moore. They are durability and production. Moore has been 3 times as productive in his career and has been extremely durable. Hamler has not played a meaningful snap since 2022, a year in which he played in 7 games after playing in just 3 games in 2021. These two are not the same at all.