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I think he'll be marginally better than Chris Kelsay was. He is 6'6, he was slow before the ACL and I wonder if he can get back to 100%. I think if he were coming out in this year's draft he'd be a 2nd round pick. Jerry Hughes is also not getting any younger, by the end of the year it could be Murphy and Lawson starting together.

I'm thinking it's Rudolph at 21. Roquan Smith at 12. QB of offense, QB of defense.

We only have so many picks, we need a couple CBs, LBs, RT, C, WR. If we trade everything for Rosen, he is going to get killed. I'm skeptical to say the least.

You know, I am not so sure we trade up that far. Not just because of McCarron (who I love), but we haven't really been over aggressive in free agency, which is what I'd expect from a team that is going to give up half of their draft picks.

I was just thinking that. Tyrod could mask OL deficiencies more than McCarron can. Good news is, McCarron will probably take the brunt of the abuse, not the rookie. I suspect McCarron was brought in to buy time and give us security going into the draft, may also be a great trade piece in the future, but for some reason, a small part of me is really excited about this signing, I almost feel like McCarron may be a diamond in the rough. I have hope he can be the guy, which is unusual for me, usually I am on the cautious side of things.

Is he better than Tyrod though? That's the question.

Even if he gets 10 million, who cares? Teddy Bridgewater can make up to 15 million. How can you not like this deal?

I think Foles is very much in play or I'm waiting to see a blockbuster trade for #2 overall.

I think the reputation requirement is a good idea. I'm a newbie here, but truth is some of these threads are made by children. I post on other forms, mainly music forums and there are nowhere near as many stupid people as there are here. It takes skill to play an instrument, the stupid people get weeded out, thus on music message boards you generally deal with smarter people because there's a litmus test. But here? Any retard with the age or IQ of a shoe size can start threads.

Quality moves.

Yes please. He is not a bad QB overall, just a bad starter. Quality backup who can start a few games and not lose them for you, I'd love to have him.

I'd rather start 5 INTs Nathan Peterman over a rookie, that's just me. I'd prefer to give the kid time (whoever that may be).

How I define it? Start Derek freaking Anderson for 6 games if you have to!

Who cares what the definition is of a bridge QB? The end result is the same. Sit the rookie on the bench until the game slows down. How you want to describe that or define that, I don't care. As long as we don't feed our franchise QB to the wolves, I'm cool with whatever you want to call it.

I really appreciate it guys! Hopefully one of you can get your hands on Star Lotulelei's contract numbers!

I'd trade a 1st and 2nd for Luck, but nothing more than that, too risky, but you also have to take into consideration that trading up to 2-3 is also very risky so the risks are about even.

He probably knew that literally no free agent QB wants to go to the Cleveland Browns. Taylor is one of the few high character guys that wouldn't throw a stink if he wound up in Cleveland. I think it's a fair trade.

Dorsey is a real good GM, I highly respect him. I think the Browns may actually turn it around, I'm really pulling for them, their fans and city deserve it. The guy has made good move after good move. Taylor, Landry and now Hyde? I think they do much better this year.

I think the Bills love Rosen. If we do trade up, I think he's the guy. Just speculating though of course.

I want: 1.) Trevor Siemian 2.) AJ McCarron 3.) Tom Savage In that order.

It likely means Josh Allen isn't in the mix as well. Most people think he is a project and needs time to sit, same goes for Sam Darnold. Most likely down between Rosen and Mayfield IMO.

All signs point to a trade up, wouldn't surprise me if a deal was already in place. No way we don't go after a QB if we aren't sure we can draft one of the top 2-3. This also means that they think their guy can start right away. Just speculating of course.

5 million is pretty much the norm for average DTs, the elite ones command around 15. Kyle is on his last leg and he is getting 6. Once again, I'd be very surprised if he doesn't command between 8 and 9. We're signing him to be the centerpiece of our defense.

Maybe, I don't have a crystal ball or anything, I'm just trying to think from his perspective. Why box yourself into a 5 year deal if you're not being compensated well? I'm pretty sure it'll be over 7, I could see 8, but I think you're right that it's probably not 10.

May not get 10, but why sign a 5 year deal if you're getting chump change? He is definitely getting paid more than KW and he got 6.