Yobogoya!

Allen has been massively productive from a TD standpoint, but he's also only played what, one turnover free game all year? There's a lot of reasons and they certainly aren't all on him, but facts are facts and there are at a minimum two guys at his position who have played better objectively better in than him in several important categories like turnovers and passer rating - coincidentally, those guys are Barnwell's picks and both of them have locked up their conferences' #1 seeds for their respective teams. Allen has been overlooked several years in the past and outright hosed for MVP at least twice in my book - but on this particular NFL season if you called his performance top 10 but just shy of top 5 I honestly think that's fair. Still wouldn't trade him for anything 👍

Floyd's had a FANTASTIC year, but he's still not top 5 at his position. We're talking all pro in the entire NFL. Does leading our team in INT's make Rasul Douglas top 5 or even top 10 as a cornerback in the entirety of the 2023 season?? Be realistic. Leonard Floyd isn't even top 15 in sacks right now. Based on how national media votes for these things, even if they added another 2-3 edge rushers to this article he might not even get a mention. It's not about having a great year, it's about being best at his position in the entire league and it's not a snub by any means to leave him out of that conversation.

Yeah, that's fair. But if we're narrowing down to top 2 for an all pro team, I can't say a guy's just being a hater if he puts Trent Williams and Tyron Smith ahead of him.

If the Bills and Ravens rested Allen and Lamar respectively next week for their entire games, the league would find out real quick who's actually more valuable to their team I can promise you that.

Sounds about right, honestly. Only player of ours I can think would be in legit convo for top 5 at his position this year is Ed Oliver. Everyone else with potential either got injured (Milano, Daquan) or fizzled out down the stretch (Diggs, Allen). Much as I love those guys, the individual production doesn't justify the achievement if you're talking about just the top 2-3 at their positions this particular year. You know as much as we like to rag on McD, maybe it's not so crazy to say he's gotten this team to overachieve this year. With Diggs waning this year, Allen having legitimate decision making / accuracy struggles, Von Miller eating up massive cap dollars and being unable to contribute... well, it's something to think about I guess.

Imagine if intentional grounding was called when a QB actually intentionally grounds a football.

Haha Bengals have to challenge to get the original spot back. I love this league!

Yeah for better or worst this is McD’s team, he has the right to dictate any play at any time.

That’s exactly why it was his best, haha

That’s the best hit I think I’ve seen from Rapp.

Jauron would be proud 🥹

Yo they might pull Allen into the tent from that head hit

Because Tye Johnson is a threat to score any time he— Oh wait no he isn’t. 😅

Running them or defending them, we have no answers.

Oh 6 point game again huh lol

Don’t worry guys after another 8 games worth of film McDermott will make the change to activate Fornette and shelve Murray

And that’s with ceding far too many opportunities to Kincaid as well.

Diggs’ effort seems to be alternating between try too hard and try far too little. It really sucks to feel that way, I don’t know maybe he’s in his own head too much at this point.

We really shouldn’t need big time turnovers every drive against a Bailey Zappe led offense at home.

No Diggs this entire drive from what I could see. Interesting.

This team hasn’t looked smart nor confident all year. That goes for Josh most especially. Our chronic struggles vs inferior competition shows that it’s not some anomaly, either.

Same reason it took 2+ months to shelf an incredibly ineffective Von Miller. McD is just very reticent to make in season changes of that nature.

Just like the WR screen, he knows it’s going to work at some point.. he just knows it!

lol entire team ran past Zappe

Have I mentioned Douglas is my new favorite Bill?? Love this guy!!