I agree, I think both are the best in bills media by a long shot. But I tend to side with marino on this one, mainly when you listen to Turners breakdown it's "ya josh should have hit this open reciever here, but..." and I say "but what?" There's open recievers, how can guys scream to fire dorsey when it's there on the tape and im not even a dorsey defender. And Joe does a good job explaining that dorsey does deserve alot of criticism but when you break down the tape the proof is in the pudding, guys are open and josh isn't seeing it or he doesn't want the easy profits and wants to throw it deep.