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I agree. Beane's early picks have been meh. But is that due to poor scouting or waiting patiently until they are down to their final guy with a first round grade and settling for what's left? Maybe a combination of both? Because I'm a fat old guy I liken a lot of things to pie. You're sitting there and there's chocolate cream pie. Banana cream pie. And a nice apple pie. Now there's nothing wrong with any of those IMO, and they are all about the same. But for some reason, that banana cream would hit the spot on that day. Would you rather sit and hope a piece is left after everyone else goes through the line and end up with apple...or speak up and get that banana cream you need that day? (Feel free to substitute any pie if your preference in my analogy) I feel this kinda proves my point. He made several big leaks for Josh and that worked out well. Because they identified early who they wanted were super aggressive and attacked. The move for Edmunds was smaller, still aggressive and despite what many claim here was a solid player for 4 years on a rookie contract. When he swings big he usually connects. It's those micro trade up 3-4 spots for guys like Elam that swing and miss. I'm with you. Use those 2026 picks this year and worry about next year's draft next year

Just to be clear you're saying trade from 30 to 40ish? I do agree that they may find about the same grade wise from 30 to 40. Problem I have with that is between those 10 spots they are letting the other teams dictate to them who they end up with. That's how you end up with an Elam instead of McDuffie. Or a Kincaid instead of Addison. Or a Coleman over Brian Thomas. I much rather see movement go the other direction this year. I think with the ammo they have this is the year the draft strategy should be "identify and attack". Find that guy they feel can move the needle year 1 game 1. I use Kenneth Grant as an example here because that's "my guy". Let's say they pick him out as the top guy they want. Instead of sitting still hoping he falls to a spot the may be able to cheaply jump up 4-5 spots...go all in and get him. If they feel he's possibly gone by pick 15...give up what you need to to get to pick 12. Don't let him come off the board. Sometimes you gotta make the big bold move. I truly believe this is the year for it.

Wholeheartedly disagree. To me, Ladd falls in EXACTLY the same category as Keon. Good player, but not the type we need on this offense. Ladd put up nice numbers on an offense with little else to throw to. He likey wouldn't have seen that same volume here, especially being he played over 60% of his snaps from the slot and we have a log jam there. Instead of "Coleman is slow" posts we would be seeing "Ladd isn't used enough" posts, even though our best WR currently is our main slot guy in Shakir. Again, Ladd is a nice player and fell into a perfect situation for himself with the Chargers. It would likely have been much different here. I get you and I agree. I would love an athletic fat fella or two early. Yes, he will make slight moves up. I guess I don't call jumping a few spots "aggressive". Or at least aggressive enough. I'd love to see him get super aggressive and moved way up the board. For instance z if Kenneth Grant is their guy and he's sitting there at 12-15, go get him. Don't hem and haw and see if...well maybe he slips to 25 and we try and move up for the bare minimum. Identity the guy you need and spend what it takes to get there.

Fair. My only rebuttal for that is that would be what I would expect in most seasons. In a draft as stacked at WR as he came out of, a WR taken at pick 33 I would expect to have a slightly higher ceiling. That's just my opinion however.

Yeah, I think WR2 is kinda his ceiling. I would hope for more from where he was sele, but it is what it is. Rooting for the kid for sure Honesty, haven't had much time to look into this draft so far. I gave a few guys I like. So far if I had to select guys to avoid, it would be anyone from Colorado, Shemar Stewart or Nick Emmanwori

I don't think he's a bad player. I remember just before the draft last year someone did a "Which player do you want the Bills to avoid" thread. Coleman was mine. My response was something along the lines as "Not that he's not going to be ok, he may be. He's just not the type WR the Bills need". I stand by that opinion almost a year later. He showed a few flashes. Less then I hoped ...but a few. Hoping he develops a bit more this year. I think he can earn a useful role. Still wish we went in another direction last year, however.

CB in the first is my bet. One thing I've noticed about Beane is if a draft is deep at a position, he's more likely to wait until later (3rd, 4th) to pull the trigger on that position. Probably the thought is take from the thinner position groups while they are still available and hope you can grab a 2nd round talent in round 4. I get it in philosophy, but hate the passive attitude. I'm hopeful that this is the year they identify a player and then go get him. A guy like Grant. My biggest fear is we see Beane trade back and out of round 1 altogether this year.

Just in the past few seasons they had Von Miller suspended for DV and then signed not one but TWO DL about to be popped for PED suspension with knowledge of each before the ink was dry. Can we let the "not a 'process' guy" nonsense die already? Its about the most overused nonsense line used.

I'll give you that he's probably lost a step or two as time marches on. We all have haven't we? A "fan" is a stretch. What I am a fan of is keeping the line of fact vs opinion separate. You stated REPEATEDLY your opinion was a fact without providing any context or back up. Because you can't without applying more of your OPINION. And opinions are great. It's good to have different opinions. Provides room for conversation. But unchecked opinions passed as factual lead to issues down the road No one said he's shopping himself to surgeons. Literally no one.

"Truth" in this case is just your opinion. And a rather asinine one at that in my opinion. "He had the second half of the season to heal up". He had the chance to have surgery and heal up NOT risking having to get back on the field and making it worse....but passed to keep playing. Oh right, you said Beane just backed him up on whatever he said for...um...reasons. But hey, I suppose you know best. After all, since you KNOW this as a fact, I'm sure you saw Cooper's medical records and properly diagnosed that he didn't need surgery and that Cooper and Beane conspired to mislead everyone for chuckles. I'm willing to bet if I dig through the "Bills trade for Cooper" thread you were not in favor of it from the get go.

So he's what, 3 days away from a PED suspension?

Truth based of what exactly? You have some kind of inside knowledge? I mean he literally said the opposite. Many times. Unprovoked. If you're going to throw it out there as it's a fact, back up the claim.

I didn't see how many sacks he needs or what the playtime % is, but missing 6 games and playing in the rotation will likely keep him from hitting those. At $4.1M it's not a bad deal even with missing the first 6 games IMO.

Usually in the week leading up to the draft Beane signs a few guys to shore up rooms that need it for the draft so they aren't hard pressed heading in. I expect the week or two before the draft we see an aging vet or two signed at CB (may be where we see White or Douglas signed), maybe a cheap DL or two for the rotation (Jefferson or Phillips type). Other than that I believe the focus is on the draft now and some potential UDFA types they can bring in to fill out the roster for TC/rookie camps.

It's a no win situation. Unless there is video or some kind of overwhelming witness testimony not only is it hard to prove something like this 30 years later it's just as hard to DISPROVE it as well. Let me be clear. If he did it I hope he's found guilty and held accountable. There is no room for behavior like this in society. Not today, not tomorrow, not 30 years ago. But, waiting 30 years means anything that could be used to clear his name if he's not guilty is washed away as well. It doesn't matter if he did it or not ..his obituary is written. He will always be "accused rapist" Wiley. If he's innocent it removes his ability to present his best possible defense to clear his name.

Somehow, I don't think finding a place in Pittsburgh would be too difficult. He's got a few bucks saved Im sure. The real issue with the Giants is that one as you mentioned, the Giants are the fourth best team in the division and him playing there doesn't improve that. They have 1 really good weapon for him to throw to in Nabors and a RB that showed some flash in Tracey. They have a coach and GM that are likely on borrowed time and an owner just as clueless and intrusive as the Jets. At least with Pittsburgh, they are in the hunt every year at a minimum. They brought in Metcalf. They have a solid defense to back them up. His chances at the playoffs are far and away better in Pittsburgh. The division may flow through Baltimore, but they weren't far and away winners of it last year even with Jackson playing amazing and Henry running wild.

He's also a real live buffalo. A freak from Firebaugh. He a limousine riding, jet flying, MVPing, kiss-stealing, wheelin' n' dealin' golf ball hitting, Hollywood starlet marrying son of a gun! (WOOOOO)

I think he would already be a Steeler if they gave in to his demands and signed his buddies. But unlike the Jets, the Steelers are by and large a well run organization and they aren't going to let Aaron run the team. If he signs there he's just a player on the roster. He won't be afforded the same level of say so the Jets gave him. I think he's using the Giants as leverage and has no real interest in joining that tire fire.

Insane amount of money. He had 12 sacks last year. I hear Hendrickson is sending him a fruit basket as thanks.

Just personal opinion. Skill wise I think he will do ok. I see him being a victim of lack of maturity, overhyped expectations, and not handling any set back well. Listening to him he feels he already made it. Which financially with his NIL money he has. I think he's the type to care more about Travis Hunter the brand than the team he plays for. I also think he's going to press to play on offense and defense and cause issues. Again, just my personal impressions based off what I have seen for 2 years. I could be way off

This is an excellent question. Maybe even be a good thread on its own. If it were my choice I take Abdul Carter. Fits a need and I think he will have a much better career than Travis Hunter. I question Hunters maturity and think he will fall off a bit at the NFL level. Flat out, I don't trust anyone from Colorado.

Interesting note. Not counting Josh Allen who is probably headed there.. The Buffalo Bills haven't drafted a player that made the Hall of Fame since Thurman Thomas in 1988. I'd say we are overdue.

They needed a #1 WR desperately and if he's the best they come up with at his age and coming off the injury... great. His attitude mixed with Vrabel will be sure to cause some dysfunction.

Not only that, but Beane can just do the same with FA signings he does deals with next year and bake the "dead cap" into those deals by offsetting it with future contracts he does.

Bosa at that cap hit is a steal even if he misses a few games.