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I put a question up on a Denver board I am a member of....basically asking them, given their crappy QB situation right now..with Joe Flacco, and Drew Lock just drafted in Round 2 this year, would they rather have taken Josh Allen instead of Bradley Chubb in the 2018 Draft. It's an overwhelming NO. They consider Chubb a star (12.5 as a rookie is good) They wouldn't do it over again (at least those that responded) The Bronco fans don't view Allen has having accomplished anything and see him as a great athlete that can't pass. Don't shoot the messenger...just passing along another fanbases perspective. https://www.orangemane.com/forum/orange-mane-discussion/orange-mane-central-discussion/2470688-josh-allen/page3

All of that is correct....but the entire audio has been heard by some of the local media here. They say the context of the whole thing is substantial. Again...I'm not trying to defend Hill...I'm just saying the whole thing is really screwy and the upcoming suspension may not be all the long....and the suspension is going to be for that audio..because that is what they have.

That isn't the most recent news from the case Mr Weo. ....don't take my comments as defending Hill...I'm not...all I am saying is the NFL will suspend Hill for the comments you reference above....they simply have nothing else to go on....especially since there are some reports that suggest Hill is in fact innocent. ( I don't know that to be the case...but lots of rumors from after the meeting with NFL suggest that the NFL is satisfied Hill didn't abuse his child)

....I want to talk about Hunt for a moment and why that situation was/is differnt. 1. Hills situation is finishing up...that whole thing has been screwy from the beginning, but the lastest news would suggest Hill didn't break his kids arm. Hill is still on audio telling his fiance'/girilfriend that she should be afraid of him. They aren't going to get him for child abuse. He isn't going to charged with that let alone convicted. The are going to get him for the comments. It's the one fact in this case that the NFL has and can easily make a move on. 2. Hunt quick release was NOT due to the nature of charges (there still have never been any charges) It wasn't even becasue he was on video. He was released...and the press release at the time says as much....because he LIED to the team about the incidents. The team never said he was released becasue of the incidents, the nature of the incidents or any of that..he was released for LYING about the incidents to the team. We are left to assume that Hill has been up front with the team about his situation from the beginning, and given that he appears to have been exonerated from the child abuse accusations....we are left to beleive that he A. was truthful with the team about the whole thing and B. He is going to get suspended for the threatening audio aimed at his fiance'. I am sure people (me included) will also assume that Hill is a top 3 WR and major difference maker in the NFL....Hunt, while a very good player....was/is much more easily replaced. KC in fact had better RB numbers AFTER Hunt was released. P.S (Damien Williams on your fantasy squad will be a good thing in 2019) Final note...KC media has long been skeptical of local NFL and MLB ownership because they've long been percieved to be penny pinchers. Some of that has changed in recent years with KC playing in two World Series and winning it in 2015, and with the Passing of Lamar, Clark Hunt went and got rid of long time penny pincher GM Carl Peterson, mistakenly hired Scott Pioli, ate some of that contract to fire Pioli, and is paying Ried handsomely and FINALLY we drafted a QB in round 1...so Clark Hunt has done some good to distance himself from the penny pincher repuatation of his father recently. Local media tend to trend a bit toward being homers, but always with an eye toward being skeptical about the money. Used to be nothing but complaining all the time about how the owners were cheap (TRUE!)

The topic CAN be broached....but in this case...the guy (kevin Keitzman) is taking the death of Reids son from an overdose and drawing the conclusion that Reid = bad parent and Reied = Poor disciplinarian without knowing any of the facts or circumstances about Reids fathering or his son. KK could have easily just said Ried has a long track record of struggling with player discipline. He would be correct and there is plenty there to actually go on, without having to demonstrate or emphasize the point by adding Reid son died of a drug overdose. You COULD even bring the overdose etc into the argument IF you had some other facts to go around it....like if for example it was as known fact Andy Reid withdrew his kid from rehab because he was tyring to be a cool dad...or something...but there are no FACTS like that to go on...NONE...KK literally knows ZERO about that situation and made that comparison. .....he makes these baseless arguments on air ALL THE TIME. In this case...he went too far. .....but to answer the question...yes, the subject can be discussed...but like anything...context and facts are important.

Kevin Keitzman is a part owner of the station. He also carries the title VP. 20 years ago, Kevin was a good jornalist and had a good show. It started going downhill when he got caught by the police getting a BJ from the company secretary....this led to his divorce and he ended up marrying the secretary. His show stopped being worthwhile to listen to and turned into A LOT of commecial breaks, and whole paid segments where he'd be talking "sports" with a sponsor or doing a full hour of bbq grilling with a sponser....unlistenable radio in exchange for a buck. he forgot what made him worth listening to in the first place....A LONG time ago. for the past 10 years...he has become the guy you hear in the audio....too lazy to actually do any work or put time and effort into forming a reasoned and well thought out take...he's resorted to saying crap like this get a rise out of people. I was once a fan of his...back when he was young and hungry, and put in the effort. I've hated the guy for the last 10-15 years...he's awful. The interesting part of this all is that 810 WHB is the Chiefs official Radio station for sports talk. (810 doesn't carry the actual play by play broadcast) Their deal with the Chiefs gives them exclusive access to facilities, players, coaches etc FIRST, that other media in town don't get. As a partner...I'd hope the Chiefs leverage their power here and persuade ol Kev to hang up the mic and retire to his VP desk....and for those who know....let Soren Petro have that prime 2-6 spot that he absolutely deserves and should have.

Not at all...I just wanted to add that Mahomes first start numbers are quite a bit more impressive when you add that he was playing with backups and he only played a little less than 3 quarters of football.

Allow me to add some perspective here: Mahomes didn't play 4 quarters of that game. He played the first half, and a some of the third quarter. He had no passing TD but had made several great throws for big chunks and they were running the ball in. They had built a 2 TD lead by midway through the 3rd and Mahomes went to the bench so that Tyler Bray (third string QB) could get reps. Bray went out and turned the ball over twice leading the Broncos to tie the game back up. Mahomes came off the bench with 2:30 left and led the game winning drive again. And........(see next comment) .......while Talib, Harris and Miller all saw season low snap counts, those snaps came while Mahomes was playing. Also keep in mind KC starter snap counts in this game. Hunt - 1. ......and that's it. Kelce, almost the entire O-line and all the WR were backups for the WHOLE game. If you watch highlights of Mahomes from that game...you will see him making incredible plays with Miller chasing him and Talib covering.... While this was a "meaningless" game....the context matters.

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It was only one year....but a historic, league MVP year at the most important position in the game. It's the offseason and not much going on and it's 4 AM and I am at work doing nothing....so I forgive me if I couldn't resist to troll a little here... Come on.....in the history of the NFL, no one would ever trade a 23 year old league MVP at QB coming off a historic season, for any combo of players ever. I understand the circumstances of how the Mahomes trade went down....given that Buffalo was NOT taking a QB in the 2017 draft under any circumstances...then trading out was a fine thing to do. The mistake wasn't with McDermott...and Beane wasn't around....the owners (pegulas) awkward hiring of coach, then having lame duck GM...then later hiring GM after draft...all but assured that there would be no QB taken. McDermott simply wasn't in a position to make a well informed committment to ANY of them at the time of the 2017 draft. So again...GIVEN that the Bills were not in the QB market in 2017 due to circumstances created by the team owners...McD did VERY WELL. But that's like saying the Edmonton Oilers did VERY WELL when they traded Wayne Gretzky. You can't "win" that trade. At best, you could say the Oilers didn't completely lose the trade...they did go on to win a cup in 1990 without Gretzky.....it's similar in this case. Buffalo can not "win" the Mahomes trade...but it is entirely possible that they didn't lose it if Allen works out...the other bits...Tre White and Edmunds look good so far...but no executive ever, would trade Mahomes for Allen, Edmunds and White....you could even throw in the next 10 Bills round 1 picks with those guys and no one makes that trade. It all hinges of course on Allen...if he becomes a top 10 NFL QB....along with the other guys in the trade...you will have done well and not lost the trade.

He probalby didn't have much freedom to audible, but there is plenty of film where you can tell Allen has deliberately passed up an open, short, designed route, to throw downfield to a target that isn't open etc. I think Baldinger did a film breakdown (it may have been someone else) showing Allen doing this on many occasions and more often than not, resulting in a negative play. I don't care how you want to break it down...or what word you want to use...I like to use the term passing efficiency because it implies the entire team as the passing game....Allen (and the team) aren't going to win much if they aren't more efficient when passing....and that probably has more to do with Allen than the other parts.....can't wait to see how he does with the better roster and the whole offseason of coaching etc.

......Let's assume that Allen did in fact play with a bad O-line and bad WR last season (wich I am good with...that seems like a reasonable assumption) WHY would Allen decide on purpose to do the LEAST optimal thing he can do under those circumstances? A bad line would mean poor protection to allow time for downfield plays to develope and those would supposedly develop less often and more slowly with bad WR. The optimal thing to do under these circumstance would be designed plays/audibles, RPO action etc that would happen quickly and a read made more quickly to a shorter, faster develping route to mitigate the bad Oline and bad WR. Either the coaches called bad plays for Allen to try and throw deeper...OR they called good plays and Allen made bad choices. One of those had to have happened.

I'll show up to eat crow if it comes to it. Good point about Jets being div rival..but you'd think if they hate Lee enough let him go for peanuts...they might WISH he was on the Bills.

It's possible I'll get struck by lightning during my date with scarlett johansen...but not likely. Same applies to the question of which team will be picking lower/higher in the draft.

KC had A TON of roster turnover on D this offseason. Our D has sucked and they blew it up. In doing so, the one area that got kind of left out is the LB position. KC has Anthony Hitchens, who they were talking about moving to the weakside (where he DOES NOT BELONG), Ragland in the middle....(The Ragland experiment hasn't worked. He can't cover, and maybe he'd be a decent thumber in an all down hill role, but last season the KC d asked the LB to diagnose, then move. ALL our LB struggled with this to be fair) And then Dorrien O Daniel....a 4th round tweener type we drafted out of Clemson last year...who looked promising when he did play. We signed a scrub/cast away from Dallas that also plays WLB named something Wilson....truly an afterthought JAG type...and we didn't draft one. It is BY FAR the shallowest positon grouping of the KC defense. a 6th Rounder for Lee, who may fit better AND allow Hitchens to be the MLB (where he belongs) is actually a big deal for KC...cost pennies to add this guy who is supposedly good in coverage and will play a postion he's more suited to play. If the Jets to a 6th from KC, they would have taken a 6th from the Bills...no offesne...but the Bills 6th is going to be a better pick than KC's sixth...wich will be a late 6th. Also....I've said it a few other places here, but Ragland has not worked out. The injury maybe or the crap scheme...both combined...he's looked slow AND lost...a great combo. If he can't win the starting MLB job...he is of no use for us and will likely be released. Good on Beane to get that 4 out of us.(KC)

I've long been and Allen critic...but I am really looking forward to seeing what he does with an overhauled roster and another year of experience etc...He's a fun player to watch and the physical gifts definitely show up on the field. I'm rooting for him. Whatever your definition of accuracy is...however you want to quantify that....Allen and the Bills need to make strides in passing efficiency....I'm looking forward to it. I'd like to eat a little tasty crow about Allen.

QB A threw for 21 TD, 11 INTS and 4299 Yards 66.0 Comp % in 2018 His team went 5-11. QB B threw for 21 TD, 11 INTS and 3777 Yards in 2018 66.1 Comp % His team went 5-11 also. The combined QB's for the team with the 5th best D threw for 15 TD, 13 INTS, 3431 Yards and 61.4 Comp %. They also went 5-11. Teams threw for 20 or fewer TD had a combined record of 54-90. QB A was Eli Manning, B was Matt Stafford and last was the combined efforts of the Jaguars QBs. You could argue Buffalo has a better D than the Giants and the Lions...Jacksonville finished 5th in overall D.... If you add in teams that threw for 25 or fewer TD, that gets you 2 more losing teams, plus the Cowboys. The lowest QUALIFYING (meaning, he had enough pass attempts to count) QB completion PCT to make the playoffs was Jared Goff, who completed 64.9 pct of his passes. If you take non qualifiers, then you can throw in Jackson who only completed 58.2 pct of his throws in the 7 games he played, going 6-1 helping baltimore to qualify for the playoffs. Allen needs to show substantial improvement.....I don't care how many times people want to define accuracy, etc...the bottom line is...in todays game, your QB and targets need to connect at minimum, 60% of the time...and realistically that number needs to higher to be considered a real threat. Allen doesn't need to get to 60 this year....but he can't be at 53 again....that needs to be 57, 58 or better this year to show that he is growing and improving toward being the elite QB everyone his hoping for. if he hits 60, no matter what the record is...I'd consider that wildly successful and I'd be pumped for 2020 in that case.

Big Ben threw for 30 something TD and 5000 yards and Pittsburg did not make the playoffs.

I think one or maybe two people hit on it kind of....the record and playoffs are simply side shows this year....if you win games and make the playoffs...that would of course be great....but if you go 8-8 with a wild card berth and Josh Allen completed 56% of his passes while throwing for 14 TD and 12 INTS...you get crushed in the wild card game...that is a failed season. 5-11 but Allen gets that comp % up to 58-60 or better, 20 or more TD with 12 or fewer INTS..that would be progress and something to continue to build on....it would be better than the 1st scenario making the playoffs. You need to know by the end of next season what you have in Allen. The bills have gotten out of cap hell, they've turned the roster over and they have aquired some actual pieces and parts to go around Allen....and you had what I and many others would say was a very very good draft. The 2019 Season is ALL ABOUT ALLEN. Period. I won't be looking at W/L record when I watch the Bills this year...I am watching Allen...I want to see the progress.

Wentz completed 63% of his passes as a rookie and threw for more TD than INTs with an average group of recievers. I’m pretty sure they knew what they had and went out and got him Alshon Jeffrey etc. Wentz recievers, who he completed 63% to were Zack Etta (good) Jordan Mathews (not good) Darren Sproles (very old) Trey Burton and Nelson Agahlor.

yeah....my mock was awful...I said when I posted it that it would be. My draft analysis in general was decent. Predicting the NFL draft is a fools errand.

Not bad, turned out pretty good. Worst call wa point 5. Gettleman pulled an all time gaff at 6 and I had been right about the Redskins not going QB until he overruled his football people and took Haskins. Grier we to Carolina. i had called Hockenson to the Bills but he was gone at 8 so it became super obvious that Oliver was the pick. A ton of WR went in round two as I predicted. Not a lot of trades high.

Ugh. If that Daniel Snyder thing is true, he’s going to screw me out my thought that the Redskins front office didn’t want one of these QB. Snyder taking over means they all told him these QB were trash and he is going to override that.

Dee Ford Played 1022 Snaps in 2018. Clark played 728 Defensive snaps in 2018. Both had 13 Sacks. One of them needed over 300 more snaps to get there....Ford also is a liablility against the run. Ford has been mostly unhealthy during his time in the NFL. Clark has played in 62/64 games. I love draft time.....EVERYONE IS GOOD until you draft them....you say this as if Byron Murphy would be both good and available at 29. go look at the last 10 drafts and tell me what a surefire hit Murphy is at 29....there are a TON of great players like Corderelle Paterson, and Gabe Carrimi or maybe that household name Kyle Wilson, or Dominque Easley. ....we could miss out on a talent like ....Phillip Dorsett! ....at this point...I'll gladly give up the 29th pick and a 2020 2nd for a proven player.

Eh....dont' feel bad about anything.....there are plenty of times when I post here and it's not exactly the kind of stuff that would endear me to anyone around here. Some of my early Mahomes stuff was borderline douchebaggery. The folks here have won me over....rooting for the Bills anytime they aren't playing KC. Even went on NFLshop.com a few days ago and bought a Bills jersey for my 10 year old. (admittedly, it is an EJ Manual jersey, but a Nike Jersey for 8 bucks brand new is hard to beat.)