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None of that data says anything about motive for those crimes. On its own it's meaningless. But you already knew that I'm sure.

Just to be clear, are you saying that you agree or disagree with the notion that attacking someone based on the color of their skin is NOT a form of racial discrimination?

We're already past the video Jim. But thank you for your contribution.

I think most of us here have heard of redlining by now. Redlining, despite being outlawed for decades, still has lingering effects within the black community. Those effects could be curtailed with new legislation. Why do you think that situation isn't in need of a political remedy?

A completely reasonable take even if we disagree about systemic racism. For the record, I don't believe it is running through ALL agencies and aspects of our societies. But it's certainly prevalent at various points in specific institutions (imo).

I agree. Now I'd like Rob to correct himself and say the same thing.

So then, this situation aside (since the motives are debatable), do you also believe that racial discrimination (such as attacking people for the color of their skin) ended at some point during the 20th century?

But now you're changing your words. You didn't say systemic racial discrimination. You said: Tell me, since you seem to believe that racial discrimination ended in the 20th century: do you know when blacks were no longer attacked simply for being black during the 20th century? Because being attacked based on the color of ones skin is a form of racial discrimination. As you can see from the above Tweet, blacks are still being attacked just for being black.

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Thank you for another good contribution. Very solid post.

No because it's not that absolute or black-and-white (for lack of a better term). Life has a lot of grey area and this is just another example. Personally I was supportive of Bernie's platform because his approach was to make the economy work better for everyone, but especially poor people of all colors. His biggest problem during the primary was that he didn't pander enough to the race ticket in the Democratic party. I despise an unfair economic system just as much as systemic racism, and it is absolutely true that whites suffer from the unfair economic system we have where the elites get there way while the rest of us lift them up. But those two things (systemic racism and a rigged economy) can and do co-exist. You cannot just lift black people out of poverty because of systemic racism while completely ignoring whites in poverty. That's ***** up and wrong. Flat out. It needs to be a comprehensive approach, which means including the discussion of systemic racism with the discussion of our rigged economy.

And what about the equity that was built up in those houses over those 15 years and beyond? How much of an advantage did redlining give whites for generations? Time value of money. Having money in the first place makes getting more money even easier.

If the system was absolutely fair and equal to every participant, you'd be right. But I'd also wager that these issues would be much less prevalent in certain minority communities if the system was truly fair and equal to every participant. Black, brown, white, green, purple. We are all the same creatures of Mother Nature. We all have the same God-(I use that term loosely)-given ability to make something of ourselves and be the best individuals that we can be. I cannot begin to fathom how individual responsibility, fatherless homes, addiction, and looking for a handout are somehow intrinsically linked to not having the average wealth that whites have in lieu of some kind of systemic issues (primarily in the economy). Just think about it in terms of math. Like you said there are more white people overall, and more white poor people. But even with that much weight pulling down the average white wealth, whites STILL have 10x the amount of wealth that blacks have. That's beyond individual circumstance Joe.

Riddle me this. If it's not the fault of systemic racism, what is the cause? If I had to guess, you'd probably say it's the boogeyman that is "the left" that intentionally keeps them locked in poverty to maintain a voting bloc. Am I right?

No, they cannot.

It was a technical difficulty. I kept copying the link on my phone but it wouldn't paste. Easy there.

Some context for you gentlemen. https://www.wmbfnews.com/2020/06/02/myrtle-beach-homeowner-appliance-technician-share-eye-opening-discussion-about-racism/

The fact that I don’t get pulled over multiple times a year simply because of the color of my skin has nothing to do with my unique life circumstances. I completely agree with what you said in regards to the overall arc of progress. But that isn’t what Rob said. Look at his sentence. He’s not saying we were in the process of emerging. He said we emerged. For someone as careful with words as he is, that is very telling to me. That’s why I’d like a clarification.

I’ll give you another shot since my question wasn’t worded up to your standards. Do you really believe that we (who is we?) emerged from the racial discrimination of the 20th century? If so, at what point in time?

So minority leaders are bad for minorities. What an amazing take. Now it’s racist to point out the systemic racism of white privilege? It’s no different than pointing out the systemic racism that brown people have to endure other than where each group lies on the axis of power. It’s impossible to talk about racism without also talking about race itself.

WHAT?! You think at some point we emerged from the racial discrimination of the 20th century? You've got to be white to have your head that far in the sand. Lol. The point of the meeting in Seattle was for the white employees of the city to check and be aware of their white privilege, not reprimand them for some biological, unavoidable phenotype that white people have (aka "how they were born"). They are not saying that white people are inferior. But unfortunately when you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression. No wonder so many in this nation are so utterly ignorant when the talking heads spew nonsense like this segment.

This comment didn't get enough appreciation.

I mean Jackson is most certainly an idiot.

Others were already talking about it when I started replying. It’s an Internet forum not a court filing.

Well then. Good morning fellow Bills fan.