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Dawkins was pretty meh last year. First year with Kromer and a walking disaster next to him at LG … he needs to be better this year.

Excuse me, but 1 Orlando Brown can buy you a Tyler Matakevich, Siran Neal, Deonte Harty and Connor McGovern.

Wtf lol… My goodness

Me, leaving the Orlando Brown to Bengals thread to check on .. (checks notes) Bills in on Donald Parham.

It was horrible. They were bottom third for any outlets that measures performance. Saffold was legit a one man wrecking crew, so McGovern at RG, with Bates moving back to LG, makes two positions better. Dawkins need to rebound and play like he still wants to be a LT. Morse is very good. Brown.. no idea.. Ideally (if we don’t make any FA moves) we draft a RT at 27 and Brown develops as the swing tackle if he doesn’t step up. Then draft a G/C to compete with Bates.

Contract is frontloaded, I think .. smart move. Getting it out of the way before Burrow and the WR’s hit.

I think Dawkins - Bates - Morse - McGovern - Brown can be a decent OL, but it’s extremely frustrating that Mahomes got wrecked one time in the SB and they say never again. Burrow gets beat up for a year .. never again. Allen, bottom tier OL all season, beat up, affecting his pocket presence.. literally damaged his throwing elbow… So far.. Connor McGovern … and then I have to hear Sal talk about Bills being high on a TE like Kincaid in RD1 …. FOH with that… OL or WR. This shouldn’t be so difficult.

They paid even more to sign Jawaan Taylor.

Oh cool.. Burrow obviously needed more help. Cant wait to see what the Chiefs restructured Mahomes for. Maybe that can break tonight as well and Allen can 1000 yard stare at Beane’s texts about McGovern and Harty.

Your bolded statement could be correct, but it’s full of contingencies … “if” this and this and this happens. We want them to be proactive in finding solutions. I think most GM’s would take Kelce, MVS, Hardman, Juju, Toney & Moore over what we provided Allen with last year.. that doesn’t even factor in the vast OL difference.

Nature of the NFL also. Amongst the top, sometimes staying the same is good. KC has lost some impact guys. Same for CIN. Then here come the challengers… Jets, Jaguars, Dolphins, Chargers etc.. (although the Chargers might lose half their offense in Ekeler) Problem is KC has crushed the draft. They’re set up well. The Bills have been meh drafting and the Bengals have an owner that already seems to be showing that his cash flow is going to be a problem.

He’s a top GM because he drafted Allen and traded for Diggs. Franchise altering moves. Everything else about him seems average to above average, bolstered by an owner that has deeeeeep pockets.

Not according to some on this board. Kelce, MVS, Moore and Toney should be enough. At least that what we hear about Knox, Diggs, Davis and Shakir.

You know it’s coming.

It’s not. The contract breakdown has bonuses built in for receptions, yards and TD’s etc. Its only 1.2M more of a cap hit than McKenzie. If that’s who he’s replacing, it’s worth 1M to take a shot on a guy who’s electric when healthy.

It’s about making sure Josh Allen has an offense around him that is commensurate to Burrow and Mahomes. Right now, he doesn’t. Plain and simple. Mahomes, as of today, has a good OL, Kelce and then 3 WR2/3 types in MVS, Moore and Toney. Burrow has a solid OL, Chase, Higgins and Boyd. We hope McGovern can help elevate the level of the OL to solid. It was bad last year. Knox is good, Diggs is elite.. and then we have a WR2/3 in Davis and some potential in Shakir & Harty. If we go into the draft, as is, we’re.. once again.. hoping a WR falls to us. How did that work out last year? 27 is a long time to wait.

Don’t know how I’d feel about trading Davis either. We know he can be a monster as the 3rd option. But.. it’s likely one year of that… maybe if we draft someone, we pay Gabe. If it’s Jeudy, probably not.

Not the worst thing in the world. Frazier gone and, health permitting, the defense is top tier talent-wise.

Bills would have him at 5M this year and then control the 5th year option the following year. If all goes to plan and Jeudy shows he’s a WR1.. his big cap hits would be 3-4 years out… as Diggs cap hit comes off.

If they pull the trigger on that trade, by all means… sign Bobby Wagner.

I think he was going to let them both leave. He just got lucky that the Safety market didn’t materialize like Poyer thought it would.

Bengals fans seem to be worried that the owner is balking at guaranteed money and longer deals. All seems to be lining up for them to be able to keep their Big 3 together, but not much else.

Theoretically they could move 27 for Jeudy and then trade Davis or Oliver to get a pick back. Davis, on the conservative side, I’m thinking a 3rd and Oliver an early Day 3 pick. I could see Beane wanting to get a quality pick back, given we only have six picks as is.

Yup. The reliance is due to him having a bad OL last year and weapons lacking after Diggs. It’s not because of the RB position.

Exactly. Adding someone like Wagner to this team would make the potential of this Defense, health permitting, legitimately a top 3 defense. I get the allure. There would be no weaknesses. However, Bernard was drafted in RD3 last year for a reason. He now has a season under his belt. This is the type of pick and type of player who should slotted in to take over on a cheap contract as we address other spots. If they missed, they missed, so be it… but at some point we can’t be obsessed with having an elite defense … especially given their playoff track record. We need a WR2. We can still use an OL upgrade. Pass Rush help is honestly more important than LB, if we’re being honest and absolutely must spend more on Defense. There’s no guarantee we get a WR at 27. No guarantee we get one in RD2. There will be LB help on Day 1 and Day 2 there for us, should we need to go that route.