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I don't think I've seen anyone here use the word "Superman," or even say he could do no wrong. We think he's a top tier QB. Which apparently you don't, since you said you don't think he would have done "much" with a team Mahomes won a SB with.

Maybe the fumble play. But it's incorrect to label the pass to Shakir "hero ball." It was the play design, and Shakir was open. You have to take that. I kind of laugh when people argue that he should have checked down and gone for a TD more methodically to wind down the clock. As though you can script that against a great D. A lot of bad things can happen, and great D's tighten up the closer you get to the endzone. That might have been the last open guy for a TD Allen could have seen. From the 10 or 5 yard line, if we made it there, he might have had to force it. You take the open guy when he's open. Fair. That's one - and a bit of a wash because that was only there due to the fake punt. Chris Jones made the game-sealing play. There was nothing like that on the Bills side.

The bolded is incorrect. He made the right choice. When you have an open guy in the endzone - you take that opportunity. He wasn't good in the AFC title game. Not that it matters that the top 4 receivers had injuries, w/ one playing on a broken leg. He was bad in the Cincy game. That is not disputable. He was the best player on the field for the Bills in this past divisional - and it wasn't close. I can't really name another player who made an impact play, except maybe Shakir. His other receivers dropped big passes. And who on defense made a real impact play, especially in the 2nd half? I can name quite a few other players on the Chiefs who made impact plays that game.

Of course, of course. Because, as we know - Josh Allen has to play perfect games for the team to have a chance.

You've said a few times that Mahomes isn't getting enough credit on here...no? At one point, you said no one here was giving him credit. Which you later corrected when it was pointed out that most here praise him.

You said McDermott is basically Cowher before he got Big Ben. Were you saying that Allen isn't close to Big Ben, and that for McDermott to take that leap, he needs a better QB? EDIT: and quite a few people think Allen played as well as or better than Mahomes in this past game. He had some big drops by receivers. And you left out his rushing stats. Allen wasn't the reason we lost to KC this year.

Most teams need luck to win a title. Even the mighty Chiefs.

Would you prefer we traded Allen for a ton of picks & start from scratch?

Your assessment of Andy Reid as a mediocre HC who gives KC no advantage over the Bills is noted. So what's the conclusion? Allen just ain't good enough? He's holding McDermott back from greatness?

I mean, that's what happens with an underachieving team. It must be challenging as a KC fan to see fans of another team post about anything but Mahomes' greatness.

I mean - you understand that the focus on short passes was by design....right? Reid coaches these games better. McDermott is a solid coach - but Reid is a great coach. 100%. I feel like I'm losing my mind reading some of these posts.

You think we'd be on the boards of teams that hadn't won a ring yet clamoring for even MORE credit & praise for Allen? Like, literally within days of winning another SB? I wouldn't be. Not a chance.

Reid is a great coach. Just like Brady/Belichick, the success of that team comes down to both. It's an advantage the Chiefs have over the Bills. I like McDermott, but he's not really in the same league as Reid.

Not really sure what you're looking for, but everyone here thinks Mahomes is great, and most think he has also benefitted from a HOF coach. It's pretty simple. If anything, you're here trying to diminish Allen by saying things like he wouldn't have done much w/ this year's Chiefs team. I mean, that's a big dropoff between Mahomes & Allen. One guy wins a SB w/ them, and one guy wouldn't do much w/ them. You think Mahomes would have won a SB w/ this year's Bills team? Kinda doubt it, myself.

That's quite a narrative. Reid is considered the best coach in the NFL right now. That is pretty much consensus. People are starting to talk about him as potential GOAT. McDermott? Not so much right now. I've heard countless opposing fans & pundits say that he's holding Allen back. I'm not ready to give up on him personally, but there is no question the JA era Bills have underachieved, and much of that falls to coaching. So, yeah - the difference in perspective is kind of funny. EDIT: I'd also add that literally no one credits McDermott w/ Allen's development. He's a defensive coach. Daboll is credited w/ making Allen as good as he is. That's a fairly consensus opinion also.

I wouldn't trade JA for anyone. Like you said - he's perfect for Buffalo.

I've seen posters here talk about the disparity in coaching between the 2 teams, and how that's a big factor in the accomplishments so far between Allen & Mahomes. That's just factual. It's not "not crediting" Mahomes and/or not thinking he's still a great QB. Unless you think Mahomes deserves 100% credit for everything?

I haven't seen a single poster who fits that characterization. That might be your perception if someone cites injuries or Mahomes also having a great defense this year - but that in no way = Bills fans not "giving credit to Mahomes." Everyone here knows he's a great QB. But, once again - you ARE on a Bills board. "Credit for Mahomes" isn't always going to be a daily focus, though I'd say again that I think there is too much of it here, and not too little, and there certainly isn't anyone who doesn't credit him at all.

A "chasm?" You're obviously entitled to your opinion, but I'd characterize it as overly negative. If we made it to the SB, which we could have if Chris Jones got to Allen a half second later, chances are we would have had Bernard, Spector & Benford back, as well as a healthier Douglas. I'm probably missing someone, too. It would have been a great game against the Niners, that I'd give us a 50% chance of winning (at minimum). I mean, we beat the champs in the regular, and the divisional loss was a very winnable game. I can't really comprehend the idea that there is some sort of "chasm" between us & the contenders. EDIT: I did miss some guys - we would have likely had Rapp & Davis back for the SB also.

I might need some logic behind this one. When did we get blown out this past season? When was a Bills game not close? Didn't KC beat the Niners? Didn't the Ravens - who KC beat more handily than they beat the Bills? So, that one game would have been the outlier where a team just handled us easily?

One of the all timers. I'll basically watch it any time I come across it on cable.

Did you miss the rest of the 4th quarter? An entire series of missed calls (block in the back, holding), clock "problems", and a basically phantom grounding penalty - all going the Chiefs way. I was extremely glad that one wasn't the Bills. Gotta think that Bengals fans are still replaying some of those.

This past game, that really shocked me w/ Bernard, Milano & Spector out, and our secondary missing Benford, White & featuring a much-less-than 100% Douglas. Who knew that Klein - who I think I heard was heading to FL a week before the game? - couldn't keep up w/ Kelce?

The bolded is what I don't really get. Why does KC get the benefit of some "ifs" on here from some - but we don't hear from those same posters about the "ifs" of Diggs catching that 60-yarder, or Sherfield catching that long one, or Dawkins not ceding so much ground to Chris Jones, or Bass making that FG? That narrative for some seems pretty one-sided in support of an idea that the Bills are nowhere close to KC, when just about every game we have w/ them is a coin flip kind of game.

Really?