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Dude isn't dependable enough nor does he give enough effort on 50/50 balls or balls that require some adjustment and aggression to go get. Physically talented guy - no doubt about it, but physical talent isn't all you need. Good for Watkins for getting paid - I think it is great that these guys get paid well when they do - considering how much money is out there to have in the NFL. It's only right that the ones putting themselves in harm's way get paid well, but if we are talking about a guy that you want your team to spend a good deal of its limited resources on, then Watkins isn't exactly they guy I'd be excited about. I've seen enough of him to know he isn't an elite NFL reciever - he's okay, but Robert Woods is a better all around receiver that gives way more effort and is far more reliable as a target. So the Rams saw that too and that is why Sammy is now on KC's roster.

They started Peterman and benched Tyrod in the middle of the season - let's not call the Bills' brass genius. That was a huge error in judgment - if they should have benched anyone at that time they should have started with the OL and Defense - even though Tyrod was not playing particularly well in the two games before he was benched. So the Bills have and likely still do have a high opinion of Peterman - just let that sink in - and they are the guys looking for the franchise QB. I know these guys took the team to the playoffs - but let's not get too excited about a team that was playing well above its talent level, has a roster that continues to be gutted (starting LT and QB have been traded for pick/position) and squeaked in on an improbable 4th and forever TD by a team that was playing for nothing. That Bills team last year wasn't that good and really they don't have a lot of young pieces to build around. This team is not better without Glenn and Taylor - its worse and it will be unlikely that they even sniff the playoffs this year. Sure they saved some salary and they have picks - but those things don't win games - just ask the Browns. I'm really surprised they are not trying to move Shady - they may be, but at this point the cost of his contract is probably making trade offers nearly worthless. I'm just resigned to the fact that they are most likely going to get worse QB play in 2018 than they've had the past 3 years and Shady isn't going to be able to hold up as well because of age and mileage, and let's not even get started about the TEs and WRs. Outside of Benjamin (who may have chronic knee problems) this team is not very talented at all at WR or TE.

I thought for sure that they had something other than trading up the draft board for a better lottery ticket as a plan once they traded Tyrod. This is questionable manuevering by Beane IMO - I'll let it shake out, but the solid Veteran options are just about dried up and now we've got Nate Peter...man what the hell are you doing?!!!! and Joe Webb on the roster and in a desperate situation to get another QB through a trade and/or draft.

I don't think so. That would be dumb and the Bills have far less talent at WR and TE than Washington. And that's not saying much because Washington outside of Jordan Reed isn't very talented. Gruden is a good coach for Washington's Offense though and if you look you'll notice that Cousins didn't really do much before he became coach. Cousins also still regresses to some dumb decision-making that lesser coaches may not be able to mask as much. They only franchised Cousins because they didn't have a better option available and didn't want to pay him what he thought he was worth. And Washington isn't cheap by any means. This isn't Drew Brees 2.0, this is the makings of some team thinking they are getting a franchise QB to be sorely disappointed - unless they have some really good Offensive coaching.

I know we all have a little more faith in this FO, but I’m still not convinced this was a good move unless they’ve got a really good deal in place for someone cheaper and with more upside than Tyrod. Peterman should consider himself lucky to still be on an NFL roster.

Well the Eagles just won a super bowl with a guy that no one thought would win a super bowl because of good coaching and good players around him. I get what you are saying though, and I think it’s a valid argument, but Tyrod was worth having even with losing out on some cap space and a high 3rd rounder just to maximize the options to have someone for a rookie to be groomed behind. This is is why it looks like they are probably close to working out a deal for one of the guys on the market or have traded up into a position to get a QB - it may already be all but announced.

Yep. Now They have no real starting caliber QB and we know how that works out for teams - especially the Bills. It can be a long time coming before they get a guy that has been as successful as Tyrod and I’m telling you that Foles and Cousins are the product of good coaching and systems - they aren’t transcendent talent otherwise they wouldn’t be on the market. The rookies are no guarantee. You take your medicine on paying the roster bonus because a third rounder or any draft pick for that matter is a crapshoot to be a good player.

It’s dumb to be without a starting caliber QB when you are trying to make deals. And yes Tyrod is a starting level QB, and not a bad one. Bills just lost leverage and fallback position.

You make some interesting conclusions but you didn't show your work. Could be that you made too many assumptions without knowing anything about the subject.

I believe that science is its own dogmatic religion and it is fine to question accepted scientific fact (fwiw making observations with our limited perspective is like saying you know what a billion piece puzzle looks like when all you have a piece of cardboard dust from the box), but there needs to be an open-mindedness to such questioning and equally compelling facts that aren't actually a bunch of debunked observations with no validity. The interesting part of this flat Earth stuff is that they are actually promoting some idea that very powerful people know and are intending to deceive everyone - while there is certainly some truth to the underlying sentiment that there are very powerful people that benefit from exploiting people - it totally undermines how much power the majority has if they exercise it because it creates a myth that this small power group is way stronger and persuasive than we could imagine. It's an interesting psychology, but its actually not surprising.,

Geno is not helping himself in the market - but his understanding of physics and the universe could explain his issues with accuracy. He throws like someone that has the wrong model of physics - maybe he just needs someone to show him how to throw under the proven model of physics and you get a franchise QB. West Virginia and Duke must be proud institutions to have alumni with such "diverse" perspectives on science. I actually am saddened to see guys like Kyrie and Geno believe this nonsense - but you can kind of understand where it comes from -> it's a product of many generations of unstable communities, poor education, and feeling of powerlessness against forces stacked against you.

Is it that the money can only be made if the Earth is spherical? BTW, were the Mayans and Incans who had more advanced understanding of the movements of bodies in the universe before ever making contact with the Europeans in on the global conspiracy or just simply too backwards to understand that the Earth was flat? There are no doubt real conspiracies (as in the truest sense of the word) - its actually what government does the get together and decide things and who benefits from the rules and laws. However, there is no need for elaborate conspiracies about our place in the universe and physics that would have had to be kept in secrecy for over 600 years - its just not worth the effort and not worth enough money to any one. BTW, it's really a good demonstration that you believe that you are pretty powerless and that there are forces with immense power that control things. That's why there is such a rise in these crazy conspiracy theories - the feeling of relative powerlessness in our economic and political systems.

I'm not one to tell people how to act, but I'll just say that I'm glad me and my Pops never showed affection like that ON THE FIRST KISS, much less the second.

Whoa at that kiss! Yikes! The first kiss is bad enough for a father and son, but the second one is really weird considering he has no shirt on while getting a massage.

Of course he and his agent are interested into talking to everyone, doesn't that increase the likelihood of getting a better deal.

Are you kidding me? If it weren't for him being a drunk that sometimes goes AWOL he'd be one of the most coveted Front Office people in the NFL. He is responsible for building the Seahawks into a juggernaut (Russell Wilson, Kam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, etc.) and turning the Redskins from a team with bloated veteran FA contracts into a younger more talented team. Like all guys that are GMs he didn't always knock it out of the park in the draft, but he is talented at putting together a roster that wins.

You ever watch Andy Reid's offenses, especially with new starters? He has a big arm for sure, but I'm just telling you that Reid is going to put the training wheels on to make sure he can do the things they need him to do before opening things up.

We shall see. They must really like Mahomes and Reid knows how to develop players at the QB position - but I think they are going to get Mahomes into rhythm with simple passing to the playmakers on the team. I would imagine it is going to be a lot of horizontal and short passing with a heavy dose of run and RB/TE pass plays.

Alex Smith in Gruden's offense is a perfect fit, a seasoned veteran that knows what to do and makes the right throws, even if he isn't exciting. Yes it was partially money at play, but it was more about getting a guy that wanted to be there and could be inserted into the Offense without any hickups. Gruden has made other guys at QB like Colt McCoy look good in Washington. He is a good offensive coach, but the team hasn't been that good on Defense (they looked better last year but that seemed to be more about having some good talent than coaching, because once injuries piled up they were mediocre). We shall see how well Cousins does somewhere else and Smith in Washington, but my guess is that Smith will actually be better for Washington than Cousins will be for someone else.

Yep - they also watched him show his mediocrity down the stretch of the season 10 TDs/8 Ints 217 pass ypg in last 6 games and didn't play that well in divisional games (teams that play him most). I live in DC, and people are torn about what this trade means about losing Cousins, but I think it speaks volumes about how the team views his talent. He wasn't very impressive before Gruden got to DC, and I'm not saying that he hasn't improved, but it's far from a sure thing that he will go somewhere and light it up. There is going to be buyer's remorse somewhere.

Washington was ravaged with injuries and has probably one of the top 5 TEs in the league in Jordan Reed, a pretty good running game with a solid line (when healthy), and a good offensive coach. Cousins and Washington never saw his value on the same plane and that's why they didn't secure him. And Washington isn't a team that plays it cheaply when it comes to paying players. So people need to start putting the pieces together on this puzzle - Cousins ceiling is what you've seen with Gruden and it's not likely that he is going to go just anywhere and be as successful. He's a decent QB, but he is not going to be looking for anything but a big payday - and if you think that lip service about going to a winner matters, then you are delusional - that's called marketing yourself, and getting the fans of whatever team he signs with excited that a coveted FA QB thinks your team is a winner.

I think that is a fair assessment of those QBs, other than Cousins is a really good Peterman (and I'm not saying Cousins is really good). I think the Bills are going to have to pay to keep a dependable guy at QB while they try to identify a young guy, and I don't think Peterman, a Rookie and some bargain bin veteran QB is a good plan. If they do think Peterman is that guy, I have serious doubts about this staff and the GM. Peterman may do some things right, but he does a lot wrong - some of that can be attributed to rookie play, but from what I saw some of those things aren't going to change even with good coaching - he lost his technique and made bad decisions under pressure, had a bad feel for the pocket, and doesn't have a strong enough arm to get away with errant throws. I'm guessing that the coaching staff likes his ability to throw with anticipation and timing - but sometimes you fall in love with the prospects of a QB that can do what your starter can't do and forget about all of the things your starter does well that you take for granted (well until that guy is an embarrassing turnover machine). Consistency in doing more things right far more times than wrong is what makes the difference between a Hall of Famer and a guy that shouldn't see the field. I get the cost of Tyrod, but Tyrod puts them in a predicament because he was they guy that got the Bills to the first playoff appearance, and I truly do think they appreciate that Tyrod is a professional who works hard, protects the ball, has a good feel for the pocket and has shown in previous seasons that he can make plays. They also realize he isn't going to be a guy that you can rely upon to bring you back from a big deficit or win a game in crunch time with any frequency. I am always cautious of getting rid of a guy that is decent without having identified someone better and putting the team in a pickle with no proven commodity at QB. I'm not sure what to expect from Daboll - he wasn't exactly blessed with much talent in Cleveland, Miami or KC in his stints in the NFL, and he was blessed with a plethora of talent in Alabama this past season. I think his working with Hurts, who has his own limitations, certainly isn't a bad fit for Tyrod, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyrod part of the team this upcoming year. I think that is very much in play based on the way McDermott was talking about Tyrod after the season was over and I think it is clear that McDermott saw the OC as the biggest issue. If they can get Bridgewater I'm all for it. I'm lukewarm on Alex Smith. I think Cousins cost will be prohibitive (thankfully). All of those guys would cost a good amount.

Yeah, but you can get someone as good as Cousins for a lot less than Cousins in my opinion. He is a guy that has been the beneficiary of good coaching, and struggled with consistency before Gruden was there. I.e., I think Gruden is a pretty good coach and the McVay is certainly a good offensive coach as well. Before that Cousins was...well...okay, but not seen as a franchise guy - a borderline starter. The reason he may not stay in Washington, because they know that too. The only one that doesn't seem to know that is Cousins and some delusional fans that think he is a franchise QB and don't watch Washington every week. Cousins going to a team with a questionable OC or HC that is defensive minded is going to struggle badly and lead to a lot of fans being upset with them spending so much money on him (he is too expensive for what he is, and he can be a turnover machine with the wrong coaching).

I agree with taking any of those three at 21 or 22 (doesn't really matter) - would be interesting to see what the Bills would do trade-wise if two of those three were there for their picks. I think the Bills have an interesting situation with consecutive picks and two coveted QBs on the board - they could hold one of those guys for the highest ransom while not having to deal while being on the clock. Highly unlikely that two much less one will be there at 21, though. I wouldn't move up for Darnold or Rosen - too much to give up for too little in my opinion.

You are right, but no matter the sport there is some degree of human element (determination and ability to improve, ability to to succeed with different coaching staffs, fit with other players) in any analysis of future potential. Football analytics are still developing, and I'd say that there is still a considerable way for them to go and that they can improve. The eye test in my opinion is merely people saying certain stats of evaluation are just not accurate indicators of success and they are right. However, if you start to break down the players that "look" good and what they do and don't do, you start recognizing that there are stats and qualitative evaluations that can tell a better story.