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Great Breakdown on Rudolph and Jackson
Ayjent replied to Scorp83's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I don't know about trusting Beane and McDermott - I think they got away with thinning out the talent on the team this year and since then have already traded a starting LT and QB, lost the starting C to retirement, lost their starting MLB to free agency, and are going to loose another starting CB and WR to free agency. Oh and Zay may be craZay and looking at some missed time this season. They have made some moves to get some players in to fill those positions but I don't think the guys they signed are better than the guys they lost, and they have a lot of picks (for now) in the first 3 rounds. They've put themselves in a pickle with the QB position in my opinion - and if they can get a rookie or McCarron to give them the same output as Tyrod (low turnovers, decent completion percentage, and some ability to extend drives with scrambling) I think we will all be thrilled, but the chances of that with McCarron, Peterman or a Rookie is unlikely. I understand why they wanted to move on from Tyrod and his limitations, but I think it is going to bite them in the ass to not be sure that they had a better player at QB before letting him go. They just made the playoffs, despite having a horrendous OC (who was rightfully fired) and Tyrod did what he could do with bad playcalling, a WR corps that was about as bad as the OC. Tyrod was sometimes part of the problems on Offense, but he also did a lot of things right. We will be pining for the days of Tyrod should we be stuck with McCarron and Peterman, and a struggling top prospect. Don't be enamoured with the potential of a guy that can do one thing better than Tyrod if he is a disaster in other aspects (e.g., Peterman), or a guy that couldn't unseat Andy Dalton as a starter, or a QB prospect that looks completely lost against NFL defenses and shows he doesn't have enough accuracy or anticipation in the NFL (e.g., Allen, Rudolph, Jackson), or has some pocket presence issues (e.g., Rosen, Darnold). Mayfield would be my pick at QB, but I think 12 is about where his value is - I don't think the Bills should move up any more, and the teams that would be fielding offers know the Bills are in a bit of a predicament with their QBs and that raises the ante. -
The Final Verdict On The Sammy Watkins Draft Day Trade?
Ayjent replied to BuffaloRush's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
And what the Chiefs gave him makes the Rams look brilliant by not resigning him. It's amazing how guys with pedigree of draft position get the benefit of the doubt, while guys who prove themselves constantly but were low picks or UDFA have to fight that stigma most of their early careers. NFL Executives get way too much credit for being extremely mediocre to bad at their jobs - its all relative to the other guys that we judge them - NFL guys are not as bad as NBA execs, but they aren't impressive. Doug Whaley is a good case in point, but the funny thing is he truly is a middle of the road NFL exec - there are much worse still employed all around the NFL. I knew that the trade for Watkins was a dumb move at the time it was made, just like I knew drafting Manuel was ludicrous in the 1st round (especially after the Bills had sat on their hands for many, many years waiting for the right time to pick a QB). Everyone who watched college ball and paid attention to the draft projections of WRs knew that Watkins' class was full of talent. It was a high rated draft for both QB and WR prospects before the draft. Watkins skill set was great for the college game because WR screens are way more effective in college and that was Sammy's bread and butter. Although he is physically gifted, he isn't particularly big to withstand constant abuse in running those types of plays and he isn't a great route runner and isn't particularly good at positioning himself and adjusting to throws (not as good as the best WRs in the game - Brown and Evans are really good at this). He wasn't asked to do these things much at Clemson and that was why I thought it was ridiculous that he was considered a top 5 pick over Evans (who I also thought was a risk because of his temper and attitude), but Evans was a better receiver in almost all aspects if you watched them both play, especially when it came to throws beyond the line of scrimmage. I didn't think Beckham would be that good, but LSU QBs were pretty bad (and Mettenberger was atrocious at times until Cameron joined the staff) - he also went into a good situation with an established QB. The Nix-Whaley team spent a ton of picks on WR and the best pick was Woods - but even a monkey throwing crap at the wall will hit the target if you throw enough crap at it - TJ Graham, Goodwin, Dez Lewis, traded pick for Mike Williams, Woods, Watkins (three picks). All that and by the time the Whaley era ends - the Bills with Beane and McDermott traded Watkins and started over spending a 2nd on Zay Jones, a 3rd and 7th on Benjamin, and traded a Darby (a starting CB) for Jordan Matthews. Jones, Benjamin and Matthews didn't play much as a unit, but the WRs weren't exactly lighting it up. We'll see if Benjamin can recover from his injury and if Jones makes a big leap from last year, but the WR position is still very questionable. -
Sammy Watkins - I was wrong........
Ayjent replied to Billsfan1972's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
You make some good points but you have to realize that the Rams didn’t need to spend that money on Watkins given his role and what he produced for their offense. Sure he was nice for them but he wasn’t the guy that they depended on in the passing game, and that is why I brought up Woods. I fully recognize their differences (Woods and Watkins) but the contrast is more about how they help their team consistently. Sometimes stats without context are just BS regardless of how “advanced”. Watkins had a lower Rec to Target ratio, and less targets - which is probably due to more long balls for Watkins, but it also shows that his role was that of a nice big play threat, but not a primary receiver. Watkins was effective in the red zone and that isn’t a small deal, but Woods was there game in and game out and is simply more dependable. Sammy even conceded that Woods was the “Alpha” during the season last year. Sammy can have a big game or barely make a whimper and to me that is a guy that is a luxury not a must have and at $16 mil/yr that is a substantial luxury that may preclude you from paying for more dependable and useful production. I know a lot of people think Mahomes has a big arm and having Watkins, Kelce and Hill is going to open up KC’s offense, but I can’t see Reid with a first year starter at QB unleashing a deep ball attack on a consistent basis. He’s a WC offense guy that had Alex Smith not throw a TD to a WR for nearly an entire season. I honestly think that people in KC are going to sour on Reid very fast if Mahomes and the weapons he has don’t produce an instant success, even though I think those are unreal expectations. I Think Reid has Watkins eyed for a different role that is more like what he did at Clemson, but given his injury history that plan may not pan out, but it may. I think he will see more targets in that role, but he hasn’t been asked to do that in the NFL and getting crushed by safeties and LBers is a little different in the NFL. He’s been in the league long enough, it’s time to stop talking about potential and start talking about what he is and is not. He is not Antonio Brown. Maybe he isn’t getting the targets because he doesn’t earn them and smart QBs and coaches aren’t going to force targets unless they like punting and turnovers. -
Sammy Watkins - I was wrong........
Ayjent replied to Billsfan1972's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Dude isn't dependable enough nor does he give enough effort on 50/50 balls or balls that require some adjustment and aggression to go get. Physically talented guy - no doubt about it, but physical talent isn't all you need. Good for Watkins for getting paid - I think it is great that these guys get paid well when they do - considering how much money is out there to have in the NFL. It's only right that the ones putting themselves in harm's way get paid well, but if we are talking about a guy that you want your team to spend a good deal of its limited resources on, then Watkins isn't exactly they guy I'd be excited about. I've seen enough of him to know he isn't an elite NFL reciever - he's okay, but Robert Woods is a better all around receiver that gives way more effort and is far more reliable as a target. So the Rams saw that too and that is why Sammy is now on KC's roster. -
They started Peterman and benched Tyrod in the middle of the season - let's not call the Bills' brass genius. That was a huge error in judgment - if they should have benched anyone at that time they should have started with the OL and Defense - even though Tyrod was not playing particularly well in the two games before he was benched. So the Bills have and likely still do have a high opinion of Peterman - just let that sink in - and they are the guys looking for the franchise QB. I know these guys took the team to the playoffs - but let's not get too excited about a team that was playing well above its talent level, has a roster that continues to be gutted (starting LT and QB have been traded for pick/position) and squeaked in on an improbable 4th and forever TD by a team that was playing for nothing. That Bills team last year wasn't that good and really they don't have a lot of young pieces to build around. This team is not better without Glenn and Taylor - its worse and it will be unlikely that they even sniff the playoffs this year. Sure they saved some salary and they have picks - but those things don't win games - just ask the Browns. I'm really surprised they are not trying to move Shady - they may be, but at this point the cost of his contract is probably making trade offers nearly worthless. I'm just resigned to the fact that they are most likely going to get worse QB play in 2018 than they've had the past 3 years and Shady isn't going to be able to hold up as well because of age and mileage, and let's not even get started about the TEs and WRs. Outside of Benjamin (who may have chronic knee problems) this team is not very talented at all at WR or TE.
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I thought for sure that they had something other than trading up the draft board for a better lottery ticket as a plan once they traded Tyrod. This is questionable manuevering by Beane IMO - I'll let it shake out, but the solid Veteran options are just about dried up and now we've got Nate Peter...man what the hell are you doing?!!!! and Joe Webb on the roster and in a desperate situation to get another QB through a trade and/or draft.
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I don't think so. That would be dumb and the Bills have far less talent at WR and TE than Washington. And that's not saying much because Washington outside of Jordan Reed isn't very talented. Gruden is a good coach for Washington's Offense though and if you look you'll notice that Cousins didn't really do much before he became coach. Cousins also still regresses to some dumb decision-making that lesser coaches may not be able to mask as much. They only franchised Cousins because they didn't have a better option available and didn't want to pay him what he thought he was worth. And Washington isn't cheap by any means. This isn't Drew Brees 2.0, this is the makings of some team thinking they are getting a franchise QB to be sorely disappointed - unless they have some really good Offensive coaching.
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I know we all have a little more faith in this FO, but I’m still not convinced this was a good move unless they’ve got a really good deal in place for someone cheaper and with more upside than Tyrod. Peterman should consider himself lucky to still be on an NFL roster.
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Well the Eagles just won a super bowl with a guy that no one thought would win a super bowl because of good coaching and good players around him. I get what you are saying though, and I think it’s a valid argument, but Tyrod was worth having even with losing out on some cap space and a high 3rd rounder just to maximize the options to have someone for a rookie to be groomed behind. This is is why it looks like they are probably close to working out a deal for one of the guys on the market or have traded up into a position to get a QB - it may already be all but announced.
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Yep. Now They have no real starting caliber QB and we know how that works out for teams - especially the Bills. It can be a long time coming before they get a guy that has been as successful as Tyrod and I’m telling you that Foles and Cousins are the product of good coaching and systems - they aren’t transcendent talent otherwise they wouldn’t be on the market. The rookies are no guarantee. You take your medicine on paying the roster bonus because a third rounder or any draft pick for that matter is a crapshoot to be a good player.
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It’s dumb to be without a starting caliber QB when you are trying to make deals. And yes Tyrod is a starting level QB, and not a bad one. Bills just lost leverage and fallback position.
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You make some interesting conclusions but you didn't show your work. Could be that you made too many assumptions without knowing anything about the subject.
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I believe that science is its own dogmatic religion and it is fine to question accepted scientific fact (fwiw making observations with our limited perspective is like saying you know what a billion piece puzzle looks like when all you have a piece of cardboard dust from the box), but there needs to be an open-mindedness to such questioning and equally compelling facts that aren't actually a bunch of debunked observations with no validity. The interesting part of this flat Earth stuff is that they are actually promoting some idea that very powerful people know and are intending to deceive everyone - while there is certainly some truth to the underlying sentiment that there are very powerful people that benefit from exploiting people - it totally undermines how much power the majority has if they exercise it because it creates a myth that this small power group is way stronger and persuasive than we could imagine. It's an interesting psychology, but its actually not surprising.,
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Geno is not helping himself in the market - but his understanding of physics and the universe could explain his issues with accuracy. He throws like someone that has the wrong model of physics - maybe he just needs someone to show him how to throw under the proven model of physics and you get a franchise QB. West Virginia and Duke must be proud institutions to have alumni with such "diverse" perspectives on science. I actually am saddened to see guys like Kyrie and Geno believe this nonsense - but you can kind of understand where it comes from -> it's a product of many generations of unstable communities, poor education, and feeling of powerlessness against forces stacked against you.
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Is it that the money can only be made if the Earth is spherical? BTW, were the Mayans and Incans who had more advanced understanding of the movements of bodies in the universe before ever making contact with the Europeans in on the global conspiracy or just simply too backwards to understand that the Earth was flat? There are no doubt real conspiracies (as in the truest sense of the word) - its actually what government does the get together and decide things and who benefits from the rules and laws. However, there is no need for elaborate conspiracies about our place in the universe and physics that would have had to be kept in secrecy for over 600 years - its just not worth the effort and not worth enough money to any one. BTW, it's really a good demonstration that you believe that you are pretty powerless and that there are forces with immense power that control things. That's why there is such a rise in these crazy conspiracy theories - the feeling of relative powerlessness in our economic and political systems.
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One reason I cant stand Brady....aside from being a cry baby.
Ayjent replied to Dafan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I'm not one to tell people how to act, but I'll just say that I'm glad me and my Pops never showed affection like that ON THE FIRST KISS, much less the second. -
One reason I cant stand Brady....aside from being a cry baby.
Ayjent replied to Dafan's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Whoa at that kiss! Yikes! The first kiss is bad enough for a father and son, but the second one is really weird considering he has no shirt on while getting a massage. -
Are you kidding me? If it weren't for him being a drunk that sometimes goes AWOL he'd be one of the most coveted Front Office people in the NFL. He is responsible for building the Seahawks into a juggernaut (Russell Wilson, Kam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, etc.) and turning the Redskins from a team with bloated veteran FA contracts into a younger more talented team. Like all guys that are GMs he didn't always knock it out of the park in the draft, but he is talented at putting together a roster that wins.
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Chiefs trade Alex Smith to washington
Ayjent replied to Castellar's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
You ever watch Andy Reid's offenses, especially with new starters? He has a big arm for sure, but I'm just telling you that Reid is going to put the training wheels on to make sure he can do the things they need him to do before opening things up. -
Chiefs trade Alex Smith to washington
Ayjent replied to Castellar's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
We shall see. They must really like Mahomes and Reid knows how to develop players at the QB position - but I think they are going to get Mahomes into rhythm with simple passing to the playmakers on the team. I would imagine it is going to be a lot of horizontal and short passing with a heavy dose of run and RB/TE pass plays. -
Chiefs trade Alex Smith to washington
Ayjent replied to Castellar's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Alex Smith in Gruden's offense is a perfect fit, a seasoned veteran that knows what to do and makes the right throws, even if he isn't exciting. Yes it was partially money at play, but it was more about getting a guy that wanted to be there and could be inserted into the Offense without any hickups. Gruden has made other guys at QB like Colt McCoy look good in Washington. He is a good offensive coach, but the team hasn't been that good on Defense (they looked better last year but that seemed to be more about having some good talent than coaching, because once injuries piled up they were mediocre). We shall see how well Cousins does somewhere else and Smith in Washington, but my guess is that Smith will actually be better for Washington than Cousins will be for someone else. -
Chiefs trade Alex Smith to washington
Ayjent replied to Castellar's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Yep - they also watched him show his mediocrity down the stretch of the season 10 TDs/8 Ints 217 pass ypg in last 6 games and didn't play that well in divisional games (teams that play him most). I live in DC, and people are torn about what this trade means about losing Cousins, but I think it speaks volumes about how the team views his talent. He wasn't very impressive before Gruden got to DC, and I'm not saying that he hasn't improved, but it's far from a sure thing that he will go somewhere and light it up. There is going to be buyer's remorse somewhere. -
Chiefs trade Alex Smith to washington
Ayjent replied to Castellar's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Washington was ravaged with injuries and has probably one of the top 5 TEs in the league in Jordan Reed, a pretty good running game with a solid line (when healthy), and a good offensive coach. Cousins and Washington never saw his value on the same plane and that's why they didn't secure him. And Washington isn't a team that plays it cheaply when it comes to paying players. So people need to start putting the pieces together on this puzzle - Cousins ceiling is what you've seen with Gruden and it's not likely that he is going to go just anywhere and be as successful. He's a decent QB, but he is not going to be looking for anything but a big payday - and if you think that lip service about going to a winner matters, then you are delusional - that's called marketing yourself, and getting the fans of whatever team he signs with excited that a coveted FA QB thinks your team is a winner. -
THE ROCKPILE REVIEW - The GM's QB Decision Tree
Ayjent replied to Shaw66's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I think that is a fair assessment of those QBs, other than Cousins is a really good Peterman (and I'm not saying Cousins is really good). I think the Bills are going to have to pay to keep a dependable guy at QB while they try to identify a young guy, and I don't think Peterman, a Rookie and some bargain bin veteran QB is a good plan. If they do think Peterman is that guy, I have serious doubts about this staff and the GM. Peterman may do some things right, but he does a lot wrong - some of that can be attributed to rookie play, but from what I saw some of those things aren't going to change even with good coaching - he lost his technique and made bad decisions under pressure, had a bad feel for the pocket, and doesn't have a strong enough arm to get away with errant throws. I'm guessing that the coaching staff likes his ability to throw with anticipation and timing - but sometimes you fall in love with the prospects of a QB that can do what your starter can't do and forget about all of the things your starter does well that you take for granted (well until that guy is an embarrassing turnover machine). Consistency in doing more things right far more times than wrong is what makes the difference between a Hall of Famer and a guy that shouldn't see the field. I get the cost of Tyrod, but Tyrod puts them in a predicament because he was they guy that got the Bills to the first playoff appearance, and I truly do think they appreciate that Tyrod is a professional who works hard, protects the ball, has a good feel for the pocket and has shown in previous seasons that he can make plays. They also realize he isn't going to be a guy that you can rely upon to bring you back from a big deficit or win a game in crunch time with any frequency. I am always cautious of getting rid of a guy that is decent without having identified someone better and putting the team in a pickle with no proven commodity at QB. I'm not sure what to expect from Daboll - he wasn't exactly blessed with much talent in Cleveland, Miami or KC in his stints in the NFL, and he was blessed with a plethora of talent in Alabama this past season. I think his working with Hurts, who has his own limitations, certainly isn't a bad fit for Tyrod, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Tyrod part of the team this upcoming year. I think that is very much in play based on the way McDermott was talking about Tyrod after the season was over and I think it is clear that McDermott saw the OC as the biggest issue. If they can get Bridgewater I'm all for it. I'm lukewarm on Alex Smith. I think Cousins cost will be prohibitive (thankfully). All of those guys would cost a good amount.