Buddy Hix

Ryan had a second year slump, his first year was similar to his third year. Stafford was injured his second year and only had 13 starts before his breakout season. Newton was pretty much the same guy in all three of his years, ratings are all within 4 points of each other. I'll save you time, the only answer is Drew Brees. That's how rare it is to improve after two seasons of starting as a QB. I like Allen but he isn't going to be a superstar, imo. I think the ceiling is being slightly above average, essentially a game manager.

Not many QBs take a step forward in year 3...

You're an optimist, so I completely understand. And you could even point to McD's more aggressive approach this season as evidence that he can change. But I see yesterday as proof that when the chips are down, McD will resort to being an incompetent game manager.

I shouldn't say the only path...Beane has been pretty awesome, so I can see a scenario where our cap room and draft picks allow us to build a team that is so much better than our competition that McD can actually just bully his way to victory, which is what he wants to do.

Pretty much...he's the same guy who punted in OT against the Colts two years ago. But in that game we got lucky, which is the only path to victory with a coach like McD.

There is no basis for a succession plan. Despite being fatally flawed, McD is a great leader and culture builder, he will rightfully get at least two more years as HC. I'm just saying that while our position may seem enviable to other teams, there is reason to think that our coach's limitations have already doomed us to never succeed, which is not all that enviable. I think how this plays out is we miss the playoffs next year, as our schedule is way tougher, and then McD is on the hot seat the following season. I expect us to be looking for a HC in two years.

The blunder of epic proportions was losing to the Texans...which I blame on a coaching staff who are completely inept at managing a game. While your point is appreciated, you fail to address the one glaring issue: McD has a ceiling. We have witnessed McD's inability to competently manage a game all too often, with yesterday being the peak of that mountain by being outcoached by Bill O'Brien (omg!). If you want to start threads like this then you have to address the reality of our situation, that McD is fatally flawed. With McD at the helm, the Bills will have to overcome his incompetence every season, it won't be enough to simply be better than other teams (as we saw yesterday). The Bills will have to be better and get lucky....We are not is some great situation relative to other teams. We have an inept coach who will only succeed in spite of himself. Next year, when the luck of having a cupcake schedule is gone, we will not be singing the praises of a guy who can't see the forest through the trees.

I wouldn’t say Daboll cost the Bills the division, but I do agree that Daboll isn’t doing a good job. The offense upgraded tons of positions and only marginally improved. I really don’t understand all the love for Daboll or think he’s a HC candidate.

I have only been to Green Bay and Cleveland, but I don’t like the idea of a disjointed tailgate. I enjoy having the entire area surrounding the stadium being one big party. The out of town games I went to had crappy tailgates.

Congrats everyone! Such an amazing feeling to see that pick to get 10 wins. I can’t wait to celebrate at New Era in two weeks!

I’m so annoyed at McD for playing like a wimp to end the 1st half. Not the tone to set...imo

I just can't understand people talking about the Pats game....Pittsburgh is no joke and we play them on the road.

Damn! I was going to make the drive and be at work the next day. Hope it stays put! I have no vacation time left.

Thank you! Cheers everyone. See you at Hammers in 10 days. I’ll bring the venison pepperettes!

Please Turkey Gawd....give us a stop. I will never hunt turkey again (in the fall).

We were up 13-7 at half the last Super Bowl against Dallas.... but this time, DALLAS IS GOING DOWN, GARY!

***** Haush money!

3rd and long...need a stop.

Dumb play. This is exactly the start the Bills can’t have.

Happy Thanksgiving to all the US members. Go Bills! (win or lose, just play hungry and represent yourselves)

Dallas is going down, Gary!!!! AAAAHHHH!!!! AAAAHHHH!!!

I'll record it from the safety of my seat.

Been to a lot of games, this one has been one of the most special. Hammer’s lot with the TBD crew and a huge win, awesome. 8-3, I was a teenager last time they had this record. 2 more wins, boys!

Bills 24-17

This was a very encouraging game. I have felt that there wasn’t enough progress this year compared to the last stretch of 2018, seemed like a plateau had been reached overall. I know some will call out this game bring against the lowly fins but I don’t think it’s fair to make such a point. This was the type of game I’ve been hoping to see. Let’s hope the O can build off this.