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I suppose since both were in a official presidential capacity for 4 years all you need to do is look at the policies at those particular times and use it as evidence. Half the things politicians promise are never done so its nice to have evidence as a comparable. If you need evidence of policy of "cease fire" why not look at war in general and the administrations. who seems more of a war hawk? The funny thing is one side is talking about what new exciting things they would do as if they had no power to do them. So the argument on this topic is not whether trans should exist. They clearly do. That doesnt mean society has to completely morph itself to promote what is clearly a mental illness. There doesnt seem to be any other mental illness that requires society BY LAW to conform to the dillusions of others. Liquor cannot be drunk in a building where a alcoholic is. People with anorexia must be told they are overweight. thats what they believe so we must take on their world view. On and on. Most people who are aware of these conditions automatically dont go out of the way to antagonize someone suffering. Its been that way because we are in a generally polite society but that should not be forced, especially by the gov. In a free society. As for kids, its just playing nuts to include them the way democrats have. I dont think it deserves alot of explanation as to how dark things are getting. Taking them or secretly "affirming" without parents consent? I dont think parents affected are dealing with a "conflated" matter. Seeing as the US is the last country to have nutcases making hard stances on this topic and yet democrats keep pushing forward.

As far as i know trump was engaged in more live rounds being fired at him then the guy touting his military career.

Dems really would vote for a tuna can if they are told to.

Banning books = not providing access to young children. I cant believe R movies have been banned my whole life. Cigarettes/ alcohol/ entering legal contracts/ voting. So much "banning" in this country.im not sure how we all grew up in such a oppressive right wing authoritarian country. 😅

Id like to see how a ton of cities all over the US burning and looting and violence was from outsiders coming in. If that was true why were democrat mayors and police chiefs so lenient with outside provoked destruction. Portland mayor walked up to the gates of federal building showing solidarity. Multiple blocks closed off for summers of (violent) love. Our commander and chief along with other dem officials collecting bail donations chanting riot is the voice of the unheard. Dismantling police, so agitators can do MORE? Either your thought process is extremely flawed on the topic or the democrats sure love them some racist instigators. They would have accepted trumps call for the national guard to stop these outside agitators/racists destroying a peaceful movement. Didnt happen...at all. Ill go with the former.

I thought the people of this country should have picked the democratic canidate. 🤷‍♂️ 😁

Is it a trump supporter or boogaloo boi? This post is confusing. I dont think a anarchist group who hate the gov are supporters of either party but they did have the same goal as BLM radicals to start a race war and create anarchy in the streets. so this is not the gotcha you or liam think. Heres a good explaination.

If i was a competent leader i wouldnt make excuses for violence being used against innocent people. That might be just me.

Yikes its 2024 and you still go with that b.s. It wasnt brilliance. Just the ability to decern basic facts and logic from utter garbage state propaganda. Some Examples: Suggesting Wuhan VIRAL LAB responsability is racist. So logical. Closing schools when kids had a incredible recovery rate THE ENTIRE TIME. Suddenly Sun and excercise became a detrement to health. Litterally the only time that would be true? lol. That was a good one. A noble prize winning medicine given out billions of times becoming deadly Horse paste. On and on and you still are talking about "it was necessary and saved lives". Own the aftermath and the damage it caused to the working class and children. the guy you all believed would "defeat the virus" has to leave the race cause the virus defeated him..ironic. Interested in more amazing info My news letter can be found in the covid thread the entire time it was happening.

How about stores lock and keying isles that a couple years ago were trusted to the public. That's a good source in my neck of the woods theft is way up.

Strange how trump did not need the democrats to secure the boarder even as they were screaming sanctuary come one come all. I think your actually proving two points at once. Democrats caused this and democrats have no clue how to fix it without republicans.

I agree that bill should have continued but I dont think the people who demanded the economy should be locked down and schools closed for YEARS can really pretend to care about poverty or children either.

"We're not a cult" now listen to how we are totally going to fix the boarder crisis we created and how someone that is not even in gov is the issue. my jaw is on the floor guys! Harris 2024! build that wall! Build that wall! Lol. Sometimes this place is a good time.

Im sure your trauma councilor can direct you to the nearest safe space where a few hours of rocking in a fetal position will make the mean words go away.

the side that never shuts up about micro aggression and historic trauma, and words that are LITTERALY killing everyone is somehow joking about a guy who had hot bullets hissing next to his head, gets hit, then goes to work the next day. Good stuff.

Why were stimulus checks needed is my question to you? I think Because a few weeks to stop the spread turned into years. Protect the vulnerable turned into arrest people for being outside and shut every buisness down. By the way as democrats did that. pelosi announced a second round would be held back until after the election aka blackmail voters who had no choice but starve as biden promised free money as soon as he got in.

I agree but biden could have been great on both. There is no law preventing the man to implement good policies. He didnt need to bust open the boarder. He was selected over the other nominees because he was the most moderate canidate and "return to normal" is what was promised. Not a far left tool. Imagine the billions that are currently being transfered to illegals going to blue collar citizens getting crushed by inflation. Imagine the time/energy/money devoted to student forgiveness going towards a less divisive federal college reform program where kids were actually given what they are promised and the SCHOOLS were responsible for the outcome. The same rhetoric energy and talk about taking law abiding gun owners going to punish ILLEGAL gun ownership in this country. A reasonable acceptance of trans and lgbt rights but not a religion that can never be doubted. supporting it implemented in schools...against the parents wishes? He had a trans women flaunting fake breasts on the white house lawn. Can you be any farther to a particular side regarless of how you feel? Imagine dnc coming clean about biden and transparently moving on and not COVERING up what everyones lying eyes could see. Spitting on the intellect of average everyday voters. On and on The dems concider trump a existential threat to the nation and at the same time they flush clear moderate positions down the drain. where political lawfare would not be needed or a senile old man is their best bet to stop him such a menacing threat. Now we get threads like this. Instead of figuring out what must be destroyed about the system if the dems lose they should think about all the ways thier leaders pushed independents to the position where they have to use any of these tactics in the first place.

Sounds like you are gearing up for some good old fashioned election denial.

So huge conglomerates of people stacked on top of one another in urban areas who are in ideological bubbles are the ones who shall now and forever dictate federal law on how anyone who chooses not to live that way? Maybe convince your party to implement good policies that work for everyone and genuinely help its citizens. Ooooor maybe just not to run a guy that is clearly mentally depleted whose best hope is political lawfare to destroy his competion and you might not need to desperately seek to destroy what the country was built on. Just a thought. Blame your party, not the system.

the dnc is effectively working towards taking the choices selected by the people from BOTH parties in this election. put their opponent in jail and sub out their own ONLY because they cannot deny the truth they worked so hard to cover. Its inconceivable that they could not convince a feeble old man to step aside or at the very least back a legitmate primary canidate and "leak" bidens condition during that time to nudge their voters to move on. They really believed they could drag him to the finish line, after that who cares. Up to the debate who could say they were wrong. Guy sounded the same as numerous other speeches he has blathered. Im not sure what has changed anyones mind. We believe Democracy is at stake this election. Now wait while we decide for you who we want to be in it. Hilarious.

I think people need to ask themselves are they here to talk politics or are they here to win a argument. Has there ever been a discussion on here that made them reconsider a position they did not have? Is there a single instance where they conceeded a good point to someone else or admit they could be wrong on a topic? Answers to these questions probably also answers who is most contributing to cesspool behavior. I like this place. I rarely post. a little nook in the internet that isnt heavily moderated in one direction or another is getting pretty rare. I think we should not be so quick to recommend flushing it all. Id love to see a thread called (devils advocate). See who here can even stomach arguing the other sides points. If anything it would be pretty funny which would be a nice change of pace for the room.

This is the equivalent to sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming nuh uh lalalala! Your assement of my "idea" you implanted for me doesnt change any the points made. You should probably take your own advice.

Stop me when im wrong in root causation. Democrats offer sanctuary and will not work with feds. Democrats are offering free medical, schooling, pay cards and will displace american citizens and their children for illegal immigrants. Biden lied about boarder security whipping illegals. Liberals Have repeatedliy fire bombed and attacked ICE. Enfocing boarder laws was deemed as racism for 7 years until a election year. Now want "real solutions" that werent necessary to control the boarder right before they were in power. This administrarion sued and have repeatedly removed baricades texas installed to deter illegals. You dont need more then that to show how "real" their solutions are. Ill stop there. Thats more then enough. This was all intentional. We all know they only care now because it hurts polls and they are isolated in their idiotic ideology in a election year. secret flights and open boarders will be back as soon as they reclaim power. No, you guys can wallow in this mess and sound like fools trying blame the people you ignored and demonized repeatedly as bigots. Just like you say abortion is a republican killer, i agree. Immigration is a dem killer and everyone knows your true stance on it. Simply saying now you decided the last 7 years never happened doesnt make it true. Even people not paying attention can see that is delusional.

Havent read the bill but i watch alot of pundits that are skeptical of government. Supposedly this is not a tik tok ban at all. It is a bill so that 4 hostile states alone cannot have large investments in websites or services that operate in the US. China, russia, north korea, iran. If tik tok divests from chinese interests it can operate as it does today with no changes. Its refusing. Theory is the reason they are going after it now is because it is the prime website used promoting the gaza stance. Bipartisan agreement is in backing Israel so bipartisan agreement in this bill. They read specific wording to back the claim that this bill is highly focused on specifics so doesnt sound like broad overreach for the most part so far.

I get your points with duality but frame of reference could also be simply how some people rationalize things they dont want to face. It seems to have little to do with evidence from signs of life and more to do with how people want to perceive what they condone. Thats not how most things work and why we have laws to begin with. Ill explain. Your example of a meat eater. One can say animals have no souls and are objects on this planet primarily for man. A gift to use at will. Unless you know the creator/reason animals exist noone can disprove that thought. The point is not whos right or wrong in that debate but how it becomes much easier to look past moral issues like slaughter and mistreatment when a person maintains that frame of mind. You say you would not want a law in place for meat eaters but i think that you agree with laws and oversight for animals being humanly treated and respected before their lives are sacrificed to create the meat. I personally dont think there are enough of them to protect that cause. Like i said im libertarian on the subject but do so knowing that abortion is now promoted far past the "safe and rare" limits. Thats the frame of reference pro abortion has taken up. A last resort to save women from what you mention is only part of a story. The other side is extremely irresponsable/ vindictive/ and self serving part in humanity. It can capitalize on women in need for monetary reasons as well. At a certain point should we not try to make a distinction between what most see as understandable examples and the others that exist? How do we do that if not for laws/exceptions/ or limits. A do what you want mentality when it comes to human life at its infancy should be given alot more respect then absolute trust and advocation for all procedures all the time as "none of our buisness". Who speaks for those who have no voice? Animal or fetus? How does civilized society promote more of your outlook and use? The way it always has. laws that are hopefully built on logic that exclude those who wish to proceed recklessly. If not, then we should all mind our own buisness on almost everything we are not directly involved in. I have a belief in my right to protect myself and family but there are plenty of laws that govern what limits constitue that human right. The only place we really disagree is in how we perceive the intentions of everyone involved. Thats the duality. the nature that people are capable of dark things is my perception. Its not always the empathetic best case scenario that advocates seem to use all the time as broad reasoning. If my outlook is true, and human history is full of examples showing it, then there has to be some form of check and balance. even more carefully when dealing with the defensless. You see that as a infringment on a god given right and i see it as a way to hold a basic standard if its necessary. Either way it was nice to discuss on this level. It deserves it.