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Jm, c'mon man, we're all happy. Feel the joy!

Kudos to ALL of us! 4-2 baby!!!!

I'm rotating arms

268 yards in the air. 314 combined NET yards. Zero turnovers. Critically extending drives as he was 9/15 (60%) with a TD on 3rd down. Came back late in the 4th quarter down by 7 to win the game. Threw the ball 33 times. It's almost like I was right or something

Last chance, folks. No Charles Clay OR Kaelin Clay, whatever will we do?

From me? Dig them out. Please. I'm eagerly waiting

Not a problem with the opinion here RF. But I think that what we've seen from Taylor particularly in the wins this year have been improvements noticeably on things people have been looking for him to improve upon. There are folks here who are obsessed with yards. Absolutely obsessed. There are also old folks who are going to dismiss any of the good or amplify any of the bad let Taylor does. I think Taylor is an average NFL quarterback. That's all. I don't think he is spectacular. But he also doesn't suck ass as some folks on here believe. You don't just throw away average NFL QBs without a clear upgrade in the immediate or near future. I guess the rest of the year finalizes what he is. But the 2nd half of the season should help his cause. And again, as obsessed with YARDS as some are, I'll say right here that I think his 213 yard performance was one of his 5 best as a Bill. Would you be happy if he were consistently the QB he was against Denver, a great NFL defense, despite "just" 213 passing yards and 2 TDs? I would.

Go count up all the threads I've started since I've been here and come back and tell me I'm wrong. 2 bet threads so far. The Cam thread was purely about Cam until others derailed it. Nice effort on your part, though

Will Charles Clay and Jordan Matthews be in the game?

Dude, I don't think I've even started 9 threads in 9 months since I've been here. But nice try

No, but the Dolphins were in the bottom 5 for defense in 2016, too.

The 49er game was one of Taylor's better games last year. You realize that, right?

Okay Milton, one game is where you go with this? Really? He also had 289 passing yards and one of his best games as a pro against the 5th ranked defense last year.

I think it's an indication we really need to pump the brakes on saying Taylor sucks, as some on this board have been proclaiming.

Let's be honest, the Bills have faced a muderer's row of defenses to start the season. Cincy, Denver, Carolina and Atlanta are all great to Elite defenses. All are in the top 10 and Cincy, Denver, and Carolina are in the top 4. They are also very good passing defenses sitting at #2, #6, #7 and #12. And before anyone just says "well they look great because Taylor's numbers skewed the raw data so they look better than they are..." Let me give you a list of the common QBs those 4 teams have played that most would say are better or head & shoulders better than Taylor: Joe Flacco Deshaun Watson Aaron Rodgers Drew Brees Phillip Rivers Dak Prescott Derek Carr Tom Brady Matthew Stafford There were 11 of those common games. I looked it up and did the math and here's what those QBs averaged per game against those 4 defenses: 22.6/35.3 (64%), 227 yards, 6.4 YPA, 1.8 passing TDs, 0.5 INTs, 93.3 Passer Rating, 2.7 sacks, 18.5 yards lost 4 wins 7 losses And I think we can all agree that Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers are Elite QBs separate from the pack of pretty much every other QB in the NFL, right? Well, if you eliminate the games those guys played, those other 6 guys who most would consider better than Taylor looked like this on a per game basis: 19.1/31.7 (60.3%), 187.4 yards, 5.9 YPA, 1.4 passing TDs, 0.3 INTs, 87.7 Passer Rating, 2.4 sacks, 16.3 yards lost, 2 wins 5 losses Now here's Taylor's stat line against those same teams: 17.3/27 (64.1%), 172 yards, 6.4 YPA, 1 passing TD. 0.25 INTs, 90.5 Passer Rating, 4 sacks, 19.7 yards lost 2 wins 2 losses As hypercritical as people are with Taylor's play to start the season, is it really all that bad considering the defenses we've played? I wouldn't call it great, but he's looked really good against some great defenses, at times. Other great QBs have looked really bad against the same defenses, at times. Moving forward, the best defense we play are the 'Phins at #11, then the Chargers at #18. After that it's defenses that are currently 24th or worse. Plus, 6 home games vs 5 away games. Taylor passing at home: 211 YPG, 65% completions, 8.0 YPA, 25 TDs, 9 INTs, team is 11-6 Taylor passing away: 199.5 YPG, 60.4% completions, 6.7 YPA, 18 TDs, 5 INTs, team is 7-10 I don't think anyone can reasonably expect to start passing for 300+ or probably even 250+ yards per game, but I think we should expect to see a significantly better Taylor than we saw in the first 5 weeks. And if we do and this defense keeps playing the way it has been, this is a playoff team

Me too

C'mon folks, anyone else want in?

Still avoiding the point, eh?

Fine, I'm not arguing semantics with this. You used an incorrect verb then because Taylor doesn't suck. So I was wrong. No hyperbole. I should have just said you were completely wrong in saying Taylor sucks, because you were. Mahalo for the correction

Huh? When did I ever say I would ignore you? You're thinking of the advice that you constantly give that you don't follow yourself with Jm. I'm an adult. I can carry on conversations with people I disagree with. Was this post your way of ignoring addressing the hypocrisy I brought up?

Oh what a buncha horse manure. I absolutely loathe this type of logic when it's coming from someone who rejects similar logic that just doesn't fit his narrative. Shady, what you're bring up here are situational circumstances that favored Taylor in these two games as proof that what Taylor did was purely luck on some level and insinuating that Taylor needs a ton of luck to accomplish this. Yet, time and time and time again you dismiss the situational circumstances that worked in opposition to Taylor in terms of bringing his team back. Like the Miami game to end last year that your pal you claim to ignore but don't constantly brings up. Or the Seattle game last year with the ref screwing us on the FG to end the half or screwing us out of a PI to end the game. Or the refs screwing up an obvious 1st down catch by Hogan in the KC game last year that Rex further screwed up by not challenging the call. Or Zay Jones not being able to catch the damn football. Or 2 TDs that would have at least tied the game against the Giants last year called back on at least questionable, if not phantom penalties. Or... Yet, those situational circumstances are taboo to discuss. But the ones that allowed Taylor to mount those 2 comebacks or GWDs must be scrutinized. Spectacular hypocrisy.

"Suck" is an adjective. You said Taylor sucks. That's hyperbole. He doesn't suck, unless you just think any QB who hasn't proven himself to be an Elite or Franchise QB "sucks." Yeah, this sounds about right. Dennison's playcalling is largely responsible for that.

So much hyperbole. Taylor will be a starter in the NFL next year unless the rest of his year resembles the Carolina and Cincinnati games, which is highly unlikely.

Huh? During what contract time? Taylor has never not been under contract with Buffalo since the offseason leading up to 2015. Is that what you're talking about? If so, no surprise considering he hadn't started a game at that point. Otherwise, Tyrod Taylor has been under contract since then and inquiries from other teams directed at him and his agent would have been considered tampering. That's a fact, Jack

Dude, I can't believe this. Your mischievous backhanded compliments of Taylor aren't hiding what's transformed from an agenda to a bannable crusade.