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I can separate it from the Star Wars franchise in a lot of ways, as long as whatever it does try to tie in generally makes sense. I understand that this is really only supposed to be a tangent to the Star Wars storyline and, from what I've heard, is more light-hearted and humorous than the other Star Wars films (which makes sense, considering the character) and more of a caper film. Does it pull those things off pretty well? If it does, I should be happy. I thought Rogue One was maybe the best Star Wars movie since the original 3 films. I'm a little frustrated with the way the new franchise is approaching Kylo Ren. But then again, no villain could ever truly live up to Vader.

I really really liked Rogue One... maybe more than the newest 2 Star Wars movies in the series. How does Solo compare with that?

Aren't we in week 2 of OTAs and isn't it today, May 29th through Thursday, May 30th? C'mon 26CB!!! You're slacking!!! Change your title!

Tyrod Taylor and Tom Brady are outliers. Isn't that obvious? Plus, Brady only saw the field due to injury and Taylor was really the dark horse of a QB competition and came out ahead of a former 1st round bust who had been given the previous 2 years to bloom. Same thing happened with Kurt Warner. Same thing even happened, to an extent, with Russell Wilson. Mid round QBs typically need a great deal more luck to get a shot than 1st round QBs and are also typically on a much shorter leash. Look, I am not rooting against McCarron, but the fact that some are talking about him like he's the incumbent or like he's earned his year as the #1 already is just strange. Like I said, McCarron might win, I just think the odds are more in Allen's favor than McCarron's.

Didn't realize there were idiots here doing something childish like reporting posts every day. Pretty sad. I can guess who a couple of them are, though.

I just don't think the fact that a guy who was a 5th round draft pick has been waiting for an opportunity to start means all that much. So what? Hasn't that happened countless times with other mid to late round draft picks? How often have those draft picks gotten their opportunity and been really successful? Yes, McCarron played well in his 4 NFL starts and roughly 170 meaningful NFL pass attempts, but viewing McCarron as the favorite in the eyes of a coaching staff that put a ton of time and effort into getting to know Josh Allen the person and player as a guy who they (mainly McDermott) would be coaching for the next 10-15 years. The fact that Allen is #3 on the depth chart at this moment would be meaningful if Allen were reportedly being talked of as being out of any competition for the #1 spot because that spot has already been named and/or he were reportedly struggling already at the very early stages of OTAs, similarly to Mayfield in Cleveland. But he's not. Allen is reportedly performing pretty well and is really really being talked up by both Beane and McDermott.

Exactly. He's #3 right now because he's the youngest statesman and has ZERO NFL experience. In a locker room where you need to earn your job the way McDermott has this set up, it only makes sense for Allen to start out as the #3. That doesn't mean he's staying there long or that McDermott expects him to. If I were to guess, I'd say he's getting his fair share of team #1 reps by the end of the Mandatory Minicamp, if not sooner. And another thing, presenting this as a simple stepladder may be a silly way to view this QB competition. Allen may never even be called "the #2," and yet under the obviously watchful eyes of McDermott and Dabol (just look at reports of how much one-on-one Dabol was doing with Allen at BOTH rookie minicamp AND OTAs) he might be named the #1 at whatever point because he's always pretty clearly being evaluated.

Wow, so you don't actually think Allen being #3 at the start of OTAs is purely symbolic? I do. I think no one QB is really ahead of any other solely because this is a brand new offense for all 3 of them. But you legitimately believe McCarron and Peterman are significantly ahead of Allen and that the #1 is really going to come down to Peterman or McCarron because Allen would have to leapfrog too many and it would stretch the competition too long? I totally disagree, but respect your opinion. I also disagree with how much you minimize Training Camp and how much weight you put in preseason games. One thing I think all Bills fans should have learned in the offseason QB competition of 2015 was how much more Training Camp matters than Preseason games. EJ Manuel was the best QB on the field in the 2015 preseason and it didn't seem to mean squat.

Allen has a 5% chance of starting game #1??? Is that what you legitimately believe or are you trolling me here?

Yes... I remember lots of talk of Groy being a potential upgrade on Wood. Dawkins, Bodine, Groy, Miller, Mills... That's what I think our OL will ultimately consist of, with Groy or Bodine being the Center and the other being a Guard. I think our OL will be just fine, honestly.

Okay... so is this you trying to say they've already chosen McCarron as the starter in order to "get ahead?" Not trying to be a jerk, I'm just missing your point. Dabol said he has a plan for Allen, maybe that entails Allen starting right away

And...? What point are you trying to make?

This should be OBVIOUS!!! It's weird because a couple posters seem to be twisting my words so that I believe Allen should start no matter what and that, in fact, couldn't be further from the truth. I believe McDermott (not Joe Shmoe TBD message board guy) should make the decision to start the guy McDermott (not Joe Shmoe TBD message board guy) watches every day this offseason through OTAs/Minicamp/Training Camp/Preseason on the team McDermott (not Joe Shmoe TBD message board guy) knows the ins and outs of in terms of weaknesses by position and has coached for a year and will be coaching this year ONLY IF HE FEELS JOSH ALLEN 1) Wins the QB competition 2) Gives the team the best opportunity to win 3) Won't get destroyed in his rookie year physically, mentally or emotionally due to an unmitigated lack of sufficient NFL talent surrounding him If those 3 benchmarks aren't met, I don't think McDermott will start Allen and I don't think he should. But the fact that the biggest argument for not starting him and keeping him on the bench is #3 is, to me, pretty revealing, because I think #3 is the least likely to be the deciding factor. Seems a lot of the people who voted "McCarron" also believe Allen will be the best QB this offseason, but our OL and WRs suck too much. I think our WRs are already better than last year just with a healthy Benjamin and our OL simply swapped Wood and Incognito for Groy and Bodine. Considering how much there have already been undercurrents among fans to see Groy replace Wood and Bodine is an NFL starter, plus John Miller and the 5th round G we drafted from Iowa along with an improved Dawkins... I think our OL very well might improve significantly from last year. But Allen is mobile and elusive, anyway, which might be better for an average OL. But these are McDermott's decisions to make, not Joe Shmoe TBD message board guy. Personally, I just believe McDermott (not Joe Shmoe TBD message board guy), being the guy who will be watching Allen compete in practice against one QB who he watched last year be one of the worst QBs in the history of the NFL for his 1st start and end the season with one of the worst noodle-armed passes I've ever seen and another QB who has 4 career starts and 170 NFL passes who Beane and McDermott thought so highly of they waited until day 3 of Free Agency to sign him and fill a position they were clearly bent on upgrading on in the draft, will watch those 2 guys fall short and Allen will be the clear winner. That's all. That's actually how I feel. It's not me trolling or having a laugh, as someone accused me of earlier.

Definitely NOT trolling OR trying to have fun at the expense of others.

That's smart. But what's your prediction?

So keep the NFL QB away from the NFL defenses? If Allen isn't ready or isn't the winner of the QB competition, don't play him. But the notion that we just have to keep him away from the big bad Ravens and Chargers so that we can ease him into seeing an NFL defense no matter how much he impresses in the offseason is just silly.

Well you should just find a way to get McDermott to bubble wrap Allen for a couple years I guess so he doesn't have to be traumatized by an NFL defense and can really shine in 2020

We're going to the playoffs again... whoever starts. This time, 10+ wins.

Agreed. And I know it's way too early, but that's what makes it fun If we started predictions after preseason game 1 or something and everyone predicted Allen because Allen looked better for the entire Summer, it's no longer really a prediction, more of a "Thanks Captain Obvious" statement.

Now this is the kinda mentality I Love! http://www.wivb.com/sports/inside-the-buffalo-huddle/allen-excited-to-compete-against-bills-secondary/1199109623# Allen excited to compete against Bills secondary “They’re jumping on balls now. We’ve got guys that are fantastic players -- Micah Hyde, [Jordan] Poyer, and then you’ve got a vet like Vontae Davis out there and he’s pushing our receivers to be better and making sure that, as quarterbacks, we’re putting the ball where it needs to be. “Iron sharpens iron. That’s kind of the mindset that, when you’re practicing, you should have. You should be able to look across to the guy next to you and the guy that you’re competing with and say, ‘I’m going to make you better, you’re going to make me better’ and go at it like that.”

I like TBD so much more than I did BBMB, but one thing I think BBMB had right that this forum gets wrong is that there isn't a separate forum for "all things NFL" from "Bills talk only" so that everyone else doesn't need to be subjected to even seeing some of the ridiculous discussions unfolding that aren't even related to the present Buffalo Bills. You guys need to move on. Why do you devote so much damn time talking about if Tyrod is named the starter for the Browns or loses the starting job for the Browns? Are you people NFL or NBA fans? If you're NFL fans, you care more about the name on the front of the jersey than on the back... Tyrod's no longer a Buffalo Bill... he plays for a different team.

I'd have to fly 250+ miles over to Puna on the Big Island (the only active volcano in the Hawaiian island chain) to get to the lava. Anyone see GoBills808 on here recently? Last I knew he lives there.

It's been 22 years since we had a bona fide Franchise QB. People are excited. Maybe we'll be disappointed down the road... but... for now... Let it happen...