JaCrispy

No need to pull up Jones’ stats...I actually thought he had a better rookie season than Allen’s sophomore season...and, imo, he has already proven he is much more efficient as a passer- even with Allen’s improvements... And that really says something because that’s how low Allen’s bar was...Next year Allen’s goal is to show he can be as efficient as Jones’ rookie season... If he can do that, I will start to think maybe we have a chance at something...I remain cautiously hopeful though...

Bandit was blaming the wind in the Philly game for his low output...additional game log stats seem to show Allen had low output even when wind was no factor...

Allen had 6 games under 200 yards in 2019...one of which was 160 yards at home against the Redskins... Against the same Redskins team, rookie Daniel Jones threw for 352 yards and 5 tds...

that was certainly part of it...

Wins are a team stat... Everybody wants to win, but if we are talking about what we want in a QB, it is ideal to have QB production that helps beat the better teams in the league...because unless your defense is the 85 Bears or 00 Ravens, sub par QB production will not be enough... So, with our defense, Derek Carr stats would make us Super Bowl contenders...less than that and we are just wild card contenders... I would also add our wild card game...with the amount of attempts Josh had in that game, had he thrown for 300 yards, Bills likely win...

I see your point...hypothetically speaking, of course, Im curious if the experiment would be better suited to a team that drafted a QB every other year...that way, if a team is not completely sold on the starter, they could potentially trade him for whatever assets they can get...then bump the backup to the starter position...that way you’re not looking to draft an immediate starter...But, you are always grooming the eventual starter...??‍♂️ Certainly interesting to try to conceptualize...

People may agree or disagree with your opinion on Josh....however, one thing that is undeniable is that your post makes logical sense.

Had a great year in 2018...65% comp....2700 yards...8.7 yds/att...27 TD, 7 INT... and I’m always partial to an over-the-top throwing motion (thanks Jim) Lol... Seems to have regressed a little in 2019...overall though appears to be a solid developmental prospect...?

I would assume no year accrued? ??‍♂️

Never hurts to keep filling the pipeline...?

Oh yeah, just my opinion...from what I saw I just didn’t see that dynamic of a receiver, compared to the other guys at his position...

I’ve kinda assumed all along it would be near impossible to have an NFL season in 2020...

Undrafted...

Stuffing turkey? ??‍♂️

Wrong answer, McFly! ?

This is the one year I’m actually glad the Bills traded away their 1st round pick...

Mims at 54 is my top choice! No question...he is everything you want in a future #1...size, hands, route running, speed...

Well, the OP actually requires 2 answers imo... 1. Yes- Josh is a franchise QB in the sense that the FO has chosen him to be the guy to lead the franchise...Josh is the guy that hopes are pinned on, and the guy that dictates whether jobs are on the line... 2. No- Josh is not the franchise (yet) because he hasn’t reached the talent level where he is the unquestioned starter 10 years from now...if he stopped improving today, one would not feel comfortable that he is capable of bringing success to the franchise... So, this is why I feel there are two sides to the “franchise QB” question. PS I flat out disagree with the idea of “cutting bait” with Josh...that’s a little over the top at this juncture...that debate can be had the day Josh stops improving- which may be a day where he has improved to the point where letting him go would be unthinkable.

Mostly inaccurate throws, but I noticed that he wasn’t stepping into those throws- and was short arming most of them...when he side arms the throws you notice they tend to sail high... Clean up the mechanics and more consistency will follow imo...

Can’t do it...one of the most embarrassing Bills losses ever!

Was thinking the same...the all blacks look pretty sweet...

Mims is the guy I want but I have a feel he will be taken bottom of the 1st, unfortunately...

No doubt one of the best throws I’ve ever seen...along with the throw to Beasley when Allen was under pressure in the end zone against the Cowboys...?

Scott!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Winner winner chicken dinner! ?