BullBuchanan

my bad, I read through the first 5 or so pages and the last couple. That said, I don't at all agree it was correct.

I like the player, and I'm glad he's playing for us, but how are we not talking about what a massive misplay this was? Beane went cheap and instead of protecting Bates for another $1.4m now he has to pony up even more. It's not the end of the world, but neither was using a 2nd round tender.

There's no argument about what he's become or why - just what folks were saying and thinking 3-4 years ago. Was Allen's indomitable will to be great a major theme among coaches, analysts or a meaningful number of folks around here in 2018? If it was, I sure don't remember it that way. I t would have been pretty interesting to hear, because he hadn't ever been great. He wasn't great in high school, he wasn't great in college and he wasn't great in 2018 or 2019 in the NFL. What he did to get to this point is unprecedented and I think acting like you saw it coming the whole time diminishes the significance of the achievement.

What separates the guys that make it from the guys that don't aren't the exciting plays though, it's the routine plays. JP Losman has a hell of a highlight reel, so does Fitzpatrick. Even EJ Manuel put together some great plays. Every bills fan was excited by the big plays, and everyone wanted Josh to be great because we bet the future of the franchise on him. That biased lens makes it really easy to look back when he was throwing terrible picks and missing routine plays and say that you knew it would all come together. You didn't. You hoped it would, because you had to. I hoped Trent Edwards was going to turn into Joe Montana.

No, you weren't alone. You had Alpha and MJS and a few other guys around here. Allen's rookie year was objectively bad in every measurable way. In order to be sold on Allen after his rookie year, you had to predict the single greatest year 3 improvement in NFL history. That's not hyperbole - it's what happened, and it's the reason he's a great player now. If we ended up with the rookie version of Allen that never had that greatest improvement in history, he'd be on a practice squad somewhere by now. If your judgment hinges on needing something to happen that's never happened before, you're going to be very wrong a lot more than you're going to be right.

There is some real "hindsight is 20-20" here. Allen was pretty terrible throwing the football his rookie year. He missed passes by miles and had terrible judgment. His legs kept him alive. His second year was a modest improvement but was still filled with entirely too many erratic and frustrating plays. Had Allen never taken his year three jump, it's a lot more likely that we would have been in the Watson sweepstakes, than looking forward to having one of the brightest stars in the game for the foreseeable future. I'm as ecstatic as anyone that he turned into the player that he did, but it took the greatest growth trend in the history of NFL QB play to get him here. To act like this was a forgone conclusion based off his rookie year is ridiculous.

Diggs was the same. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

I guess he could always throw the ball to himself.

This move is the best thing to happen to Buffalo all offseason. Playing the chiefs got a hell of a lot easier and the phins still aren't good enough to contend.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/falcons-paying-marcus-mariota-241875m-over-2-years-per-report/ar-AAVlaZk Well then.

Dude's a bum. No thanks.

Good player, good contract. Crowder has spent most of his career playing with bums and he still makes plays and has big games. He could have a career year here.

I'm grateful for all that Jerry has given to the team, but at this point Epenesa and Basham need those reps. We have a lot invested in our young guys and we need to give them enough opportunities to develop and see what we have.

He doesn't have a high enough ceiling for a team with championship aspirations. He's probably best suited to a bridge QB role for a team that isn't trying to compete right away. Only the Commanders seemed to fit that bill, but they chose Wentz. Seattle is lying to themselves that they can still compete with whatever vet option they bring in and Pittsburgh think maybe the jury is still out on Trubisky. There aren't that many jobs this year that make sense for a QB that couldn't outplay Ryan Tannehill or Derek Carr. If Atlanta moves Ryan, he could make sense there. otherwise, look for him to sign another one year deal and go to a team hitting a rebuild next season. I think he fills the same role as Tyrod Taylor for a team.

Nope. That couldn't be further from what i said. None of that happened. Like literally none of it.

Depending on who you ask, he may never have had an opportunity given the influence Buddy Nix and Rex Ryan had in the organization.

That's also not really true. If you look at his draft results, he hit on a ton of guys that had NFL careers. Not all of them got resigned here and most didn't turn into superstars, but they didn't bust out of the league either. What hindered his legacy is the QB position, as is the death knell for most GMs. I'd be very interested to know who said what in the decision to pass on Mahomes and Watson and whose call it was ultimately. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/buf/draft.htm

You've never seen Brandon Beane in sweats? Of all the things you could single out Whaley for, that's what you pick? Generally speaking, he was an extremely sharp dresser during his time here.

Not even close to the same thing, but don't let that get in the way of some good hyperbole.

He's one of my favorite players, but I think this is right. A first round rookie costs you less than $3M against the cap and they get considerably cheaper the later you draft them. Gabe Davis carries a $1m cap hit the next two years. Maybe we get to keep Diggs, but it means that the WRs behind him are forever a revolving door. Alternatively, maybe you get to keep davis for 1/3-1/2 of what you pay diggs and you get to have a couple of those guys plus rookies.

He engages that pulling guard like he's trying to block him and Fournette blows right by him. I feel like that's exactly the kind of thing that represents who he is as a player. The other thing he does here is he has to change his angle multiple times in a play because he isn't actually as fast as he thinks he is. What a brutal watch this whole thing was.

I'm in a similar boat. At this point, there's almost nothing Edmunds can do to redeem the wasted investment in him. if he goes out there and kills it this year, he'll want to be paid like a top LB, despite giving us nothing the first four years when he was on a controlled deal. Now, we pay him based off limited performance and we have to guess if everything clicked for him or if he just had a good year? No thanks. I thought Phillips was the same way, and I get an uneasy feeling about Oliver for the same reason. Showing up on year 3 is way better than year 5 though.

Even if that's true, which I don't believe it is, you understand that it doesn't matter right? If we use him in a way that makes him perform poorly, or he performs poorly strictly on merit, it's undeniable that MLB performance is a problem for this team. If you aren't going to dump Frazier (they aren't), then you have to find a player that can do what Frazier is asking him to do. It has to be extremely clear over Edmunds' career that he's incapable of doing that. He's barely even flashed any potential and he's had 4 full seasons to show us what he can do. It's time to move on.

Because there are better players out there like Bobby Wagner who we could replace him with and use the pick to draft his replacement.

Is it? It looks like we'll have plenty of cap to work with next year and as other teams have shown, you can make the cap do what you need it to.