BullBuchanan

No, I mean the type of people that will grasp at any alternative to reality based on strictly partisan lines. The types of people that never gave two ****s about suicide using it as a weapon to try to strawman their way through an argument.

The fact that you believe that hypothetical and vague scenario is a greater threat over quantifiable data of a thing that's actually happening right now is what's insane. I've seen this stuff parroted all over the place for months by the predictable groups of people. Was it on AM radio or something? I somehow miss where you guys get your talking points, but I always know when you get a new one. Suicide would have to 4x this year to have the growth be what Covid has already done in 5 months. I bet you 100% of all the future earnings of all of my descendants that doesn't happen for your $100 dollars. https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/

Not without data.

Gonna need sources for all of that nonsense. Florida has 20k more confirmed cases than NY. Should we give them a gold star for watching someone fail, and then do everything worse, learning nothing, and fail harder? Just because they lucked out with less deaths per 100 cases should not be any sort of vindication.They were spectacularly wrong about everything.

There are going to be some UDFAs who miss their shot and don't get another one. It's really unfortunate timing for them.

I know that, and you know that, but millions of people don't and that's the point.

I mean, kinda. He rabbles gibberish at mach speed and dribbles out keywords that they latch onto, and then he backs it up with actions that would support the position he wanted to take (like publicly pushing back on requests for PPE). It's pretty clear that the only people that believe this isn't a real problem belong exclusively to one political party. “Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, you know that, right?” he said. “Coronavirus, they’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, ‘How’s President Trump doing?’ They go, ‘Oh, not good, not good.’ They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa.” Then the president, who often dismissed special counsel Robert Mueller’s Russia investigation as a hoax, continued, “They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything. They tried it over and over. They’d been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning. They lost. It’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax.”

It's because it didn't happen. They said we would probably get mad on their news networks at the time because it was just like the muslim ban, except that people didn't because it wasn't.

Quoted for truth. #Benghazi He said exactly what he needed to in order to put it into his supporters heads that it was a hoax while giving himself an out. "Their next hoax"

Well, we did, but talking about why we don't anymore would be making this political.

The difference being that you're all adults and you all understand what's at stake. If some selfish person on your team wants to place you all in danger, they know exactly what they're doing. Kids cannot possibly understand the gravity of this.

And tons of people aren't, like the beachgoers you mentioned. America is the only country that seems to think this is some inevitable and unsolvable problem. I guess that's what happens when you rank in the 30's in education. We aren't failing despite our best efforts. We're failing because our best effort isn't good enough.

Why and why not?

how are you determining the death rate?

Is it? Children seem to get the flu at a rate of 2.5* that of adults https://www.livescience.com/50020-influenza-a-frequency.html

Buffalo has a lot of very good eats, though they can be quite spread out and even hard to know about. Buffalo has the best sushi I've ever had (Kuni's) the best Sandwich I've ever had (Desi's), the best Chicken wing (nine eleven), the best breakfast (Nick's Place), the best margarita (Cantina Loco) and some other assorted big wins like really great Vietnamese at Dollar Pho on Grant Street. However, there isn't a lot of depth there outside of the pizza/wings category. I've been quite unimpressed with higher end or even your traditional upscale New American dining in Buffalo, but then again we didn't have an opportunity to try all that much last we lived there.

Good luck with your campaign. I think you'll find it a difficult one.

You're free to wage that campaign, but we aren't discussing solving the flu here. If that's what passes for brilliant, RIP our education system.

I don't even have kids and I never will. As a general rule, I don't even like them, but I don't want them to die if it can be prevented.

I love the smell of logical fallacies.

I vehemently disagree

Might as well include the whole quote: "The Swedish public health authority announced in late April that the capital city, Stockholm, was “showing signs of herd immunity” – estimating that about half its population had been infected. The authority had to backtrack two weeks later, however, when the results of their own antibody study revealed just 7.3% had been infected. But the number of deaths and infections in Stockholm is falling rather than increasing – despite the fact that Sweden hasn’t enforced a lockdown." This isn't science - it's claiming you knew something would happen all along and giving it an explanation after the fact. There are so many variables in the equation that to credit herd immunity without a detailed explanation is scientifically irresponsible.

This surely aged poorly https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-22/coronavirus-outbreak-nobel-laureate

I don't need to google your confirmation bias. You clearly have no idea what herd immunity is.

How many will?