BullBuchanan

Ok, here are my points to back up my claim. Being a police officer does not require a college degree There is no formal education in criminal justice or sociology to be a police officer Police officers can complete training in as little as 16 weeks, with 728 hours of training By contrast, we require barbers to have 1000 hours of training before they are licensed. Police like Derek Chauvin can actively patrol the streets with as many as 18 formal complaints on their record. Police training in the form of David Grossman's "Killology" trains police how to kill without remorse or second guessing, per his own admission https://www.killology.com/ KILLOLOGY, (n): The scholarly study of the destructive act, just as sexology is the scholarly study of the procreative act. In particular, killology focuses on the reactions of healthy people in killing circumstances (such as police and military in combat) and the factors that enable and restrain killing in these situations. When I say police "aren't qualified for their jobs", this is what I mean. I have additional points, but I think this defends my claim enough for now.

I was trying to counter two arguments: one made by non-police that defends violent reactions form police due to the dangerous nature of their job, and the second is the defense from the police themselves where shootings and assaults are often explained as the police being afraid of physical harm. I had hoped to show that many other people do jobs with a far higher per capita death and serious injury rate without violently lashing out at those around them or causing collateral damage.

Annnnd there it is. I would gladly, and I mean that in all sincerity, welcome you to correct my ignorance. Can you please educate me on which of my points are wrong and what data I provided is incorrect? I would really hate to be uninformed if there's better information out there.

Ok, that's quite vague but whatever. I have no control over someone's willingness to "take me seriously". I try to be as logical as I can be, though I know that's not possible at all times. I would recommend muting me if what I say bothers you that much.

I mean, if that's your opinion ok. I'm just providing context for data and facts. I've been waiting the whole thread for someone to challenge my assertions with actual research and all I've gotten is people telling me I'm wrong or the odd video from far-right publications showing isolated anecdotal situations. I don't really care if you "take me seriously" but I've provided evidence that police use chemical weapons on American civilians, kidnap them without charges, murder unarmed people, attack the press, incite riots through direct force and kettling tactics and do all of this as part of their officially sanctioned training called "killology" from David Grossman. I've also provided data that their job is not nearly as dangerous as people claim it is and how they would rather resign than hold fellow cops accountable. I would love to be proven wrong, because I don't want to live in a fascist police state.

White Boi Rick Bucahnan goes on a tear about police officers as war criminals, mustard gassing citizens, etc. Are you saying they have not tear gassed people? Are you saying that tear gas is not classified as a chemical weapon and internationally banned in warfare per the Geneva Convention of 1925? Just because I say things that upset people here doesn't make them factually inaccurate. I have routinely backed up all of my claims with data and sources and all I've received in return are threats and vitriol.

I'm white, so yea.

of what?

It's good that I don't have one then. I do have experience being detained without cause, though, so I'm well aware of their practices.

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Here are some more of those "bad apples" murdering Michael Ramos "Police never found a gun in the vehicle or on Ramos, and they have said nothing indicating the passenger was in danger." Also, apparently abducting people is nothing new. They call these cops "jump out boys". It's been going on for years. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/jump-out-boys-videos-protesters-getting-picked-up-unmarked-police-cars-spark-outrage-many-say-not-new-205040238.html

Something a bit different And two future Hall of fame musicians that are still a bit under the radar in mainstream circles.

We never learned much about Xs and Os playing ball in Buffalo. Our coaches were all bottom tier gym teachers. I learned a lot more playing pickup ball when I was in college in Florida playing with some kids not good enough to play college ball down there. YouTube has also been a massive help.

Coincidence? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-sees-peaceful-night-of-protests-following-withdrawal-of-federal-troops/ar-BB17pr3f?ocid=sf

Because police officers choose to be who they are. In addition there is documented evidence of thousands of them committing warcrimes as determined by international law through their use of chemical weapons. When 100% of the riot force resigned in Buffalo over 2 of their "brothers" being suspended for putting a 74 year old man in the ICU, that should tell you something. People don't get to choose their race. They do get to decide who they will intimidate, threaten, assault and murder.

Thanks 'B'

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Why? I disagree. Why is it "no win?" They get to kill anyone they want as long as they can say they were scared, they can lie, they get free food and bribes, and ignorant everyday citizens give them a pat on the back for all of it. Seems pretty sweet to me. They aren't qualified for their job. I'm overqualified for their job. I'd take a police commissioner job today.

Let me take the reading out of it for you. Farmers jobs are nearly 2X as dangerous as cops 16. Police and sheriff's patrol officers Brendan McDermid/Reuters What they do: Maintain order and protect life and property by enforcing local, tribal, State, or Federal laws and ordinances. Fatal injury rate (per 100,000 workers): 13.7 7. Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers Farmer John Duffy and Roger Murphy load soybeans from a grain bin onto a truck Scott Olson/Getty Images What they do: Plan, direct, or coordinate the management or operation of farms or other agricultural establishments. Fatal injury rate (per 100,000 workers): 24.7

Well, at least you're finally seeing it. Did you read the data yet?

Yet, statistically speaking your nephews are far more likely to die or get maimed at work than a police officer. Why are you ignoring the data? Maybe if someone were a good cop they wouldn't need to be stressed, like your nephews aren't. I suppose if I assaulted people every day and was statistically more likely to abuse my kids and my wife, like police officers are, I would be stressed too. I don't know at all what it's like to be an abuser though, do you? No, of course not. But if they don't want to do it for the actual salary, there are other jobs they should take that don't involve them being murderers and violent criminals.

It's not easy, that's why they're trained. Unfortunately they're bad people trained to be worse people.

Do you not understand what I'm telling you? I DO know. I think that's the part you're missing here. How can I help you understand? https://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-2018-7#15-first-line-supervisors-of-mechanics-installers-and-repairers-20

Yes. Are you suggesting it's not? Look it up. Farming is FAR more dangerous. Even "The Blaze" will tell you that. Who said I didn't want to do it? I'd gladly do it for $400k a year if they fired all the scumbags that do the job now.

That's not my job. I wasn't trained for that. If I was, I would know, because it was my job. I could ask you the same questions about my line of work that you or a police officer would never get right either, because you haven't been trained.